What on earth, Canada......

[Omar del Sur]

legal meth! you are treated like a criminal and basically some sort of terrorist in Canada if you don't want to be a guinea pig for an experimental vaccine....... but the government is ok with it if you want to smoke meth........

I've heard this term "anarcho-tyranny" recently.... I have heard this term a few times...... it really is real.... this really is "anarcho-tyranny"..... communist dictatorship against us oppressed purebloods...... libertarian free for all for degenerates

 

[Keep it a boqol]

How do you feel about safe injection sites ? I live in Canada every public washroom as a special garbage bin where people can safely throw away their needles

 

[Siddhartha]

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legal meth! you are treated like a criminal and basically some sort of terrorist in Canada if you don't want to be a guinea pig for an experimental vaccine....... but the government is ok with it if you want to smoke meth........

I've heard this term "anarcho-tyranny" recently.... I have heard this term a few times...... it really is real.... this really is "anarcho-tyranny"..... communist dictatorship against us oppressed purebloods...... libertarian free for all for degenerates

War on drugs is stupid and doesn't stop deaths at all

 

[Omar del Sur]

How do you feel about safe injection sites ? I live in Canada every public washroom as a special garbage bin where people can safely throw away their needles

that's a tough question for me.....

And cooperate in righteousness and piety, but do not cooperate in sin and aggression.

-Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:2

maybe it falls under cooperating in sin? I think it does seem like it. but maybe there is a danger of them leaving needles in the regular garbage and then this threatens the safety of the people who take out the garbage? I guess if there is a real need for that reason then I think it's ok. but all this is sort of just me theorizing... I like to just report what the scholars have said, I'm not really qualified myself.... so they should check with the scholars and see what the scholars say

edit: actually, after thinking about it some more I think it's ok because I don't think it's actually cooperating in sin because you're not actually helping them to inject the needles to my understanding... it's just a bin where they can dispose of needles... so you're just helping them to dispose of the needle, I don't think you're helping them shoot up... so I think it's ok.... especially when you have areas with a lot of those people, that way they don't put needles in the garbage or litter with them

 

[Omar del Sur]

War on drugs is stupid and doesn't stop deaths at all

and war on murder and armed robbery is stupid as well? having laws against murder and armed robbery hasn't eliminated murder and armed robbery so we should legalize those things?

 

[TheManWhoIsAlive]

How do you feel about safe injection sites ? I live in Canada every public washroom as a special garbage bin where people can safely throw away their needles

Gonna be one hell of a filter for us fellows up North. If you end up being a druggie, that's on you. Idgaf about an addict.

 

[Man with a garuun]

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legal meth! you are treated like a criminal and basically some sort of terrorist in Canada if you don't want to be a guinea pig for an experimental vaccine....... but the government is ok with it if you want to smoke meth........

I've heard this term "anarcho-tyranny" recently.... I have heard this term a few times...... it really is real.... this really is "anarcho-tyranny"..... communist dictatorship against us oppressed purebloods...... libertarian free for all for degenerates

By legalizing meth, it'll significantly bring its price down. It also means less violence since gangs don't have to shoot at each other for drugs. Netherlands did the same thing, and their crime rate went way lower than the other EU countries that outlawed methamphetamine.

If alcohol is allowed, I never understood why other mind-altering drugs were outlawed. I never understood the difference between alcohol and other drugs when it comes to addictions and their other effects on societies.

 

[Omar del Sur]

By legalizing meth, it'll significantly bring its price down. It also means less violence since gangs don't have to shoot at each other for drugs. Netherlands did the same thing, and their crime rate went way lower than the other EU countries that outlawed methamphetamine.

If alcohol is allowed, I never understood why other mind-altering drugs were outlawed. I never understood the difference between alcohol and other drugs when it comes to addictions and their other effects on societies.

Aren't you a Muslim? I'm sure we're both Muslims. Alcohol shouldn't be allowed either.

 

[Man with a garuun]

Aren't you a Muslim? I'm sure we're both Muslims. Alcohol shouldn't be allowed either.

I am Muslim, alxamdulillah. I was saying both alcohol and metha should be outlawed in a Muslim society. But we live in the West. So my point was, if they allowed alcohol, why did they outlaw metha and other drugs? If they don't gonna outlaw alcohol, they should legalize other drugs as well.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I am Muslim, alxamdulillah. I was saying both alcohol and metha should be outlawed in a Muslim society. But we live in the West. So my point was, if they allowed alcohol, why did they outlaw metha and other drugs? If they don't gonna outlaw alcohol, they should legalize other drugs as well.

I've seen your posts and I think we have some differences in our viewpoint but we're both Muslims and you've struck me as being one of the religious posters here.

I think you are a Muslim and a religious Muslim as well (not a half-baked type) but I think there is a mistake here. I mean zero disrespect towards you but I think the idea that they should legalize other drugs because they have legalized alcohol is a mistaken idea.

It may be that there is an inconsistency and I think you have a point that there is an inconsistency. Alcohol is a drug- a dangerous drug- just like meth.

But look at for example when many of us were younger.... zina was allowed but the West wouldn't allow the same sex to marry. Previously, zina was legal but homosexuality was illegal and people could get arrested for it. If we're living back then- should we say they should legalize homosexuality? They're already allowing zina.

We might not be able to get them to fully embrace the truth but I think we have to at least try to push them in the right direction.

 

[Man with a garuun]

I've seen your posts and I think we have some differences in our viewpoint but we're both Muslims and you've struck me as being one of the religious posters here.

I think you are a Muslim and a religious Muslim as well (not a half-baked type) but I think there is a mistake here. I mean zero disrespect towards you but I think the idea that they should legalize other drugs because they have legalized alcohol is a mistaken idea.

It may be that there is an inconsistency and I think you have a point that there is an inconsistency. Alcohol is a drug- a dangerous drug- just like meth.

But look at for example when many of us were younger.... zina was allowed but the West wouldn't allow the same sex to marry. Previously, zina was legal but homosexuality was illegal and people could get arrested for it. If we're living back then- should we say they should legalize homosexuality? They're already allowing zina.

We might not be able to get them to fully embrace the truth but I think we have to at least try to push them in the right direction.

From religious perspective, I agree with you. We should always advocate the right deeds and always encourage people to do good.

However, I have a different perspective when I look at the fake war on drugs that America wages. The majority of victims are minority youth. In particular, the African American and Hispanic American youth. Entire generations are condemned to prison because this war on drugs is waged on them.

One area that you can easily observe is the sentencing for the drug-related crimes in both white and minority neighborhoods. In white neighborhoods, many of them are sent to rehabilitation centers or ordered to go through drug treatments in order to achieve reduced sentencing.

In minority neighborhoods, they mostly use the maximum sentencing where rehabilitation and drug treatments are hardly considered. This is the epicenter of the Jim Crow system.

So when I advocated for legalizing metha, I was coming from that angle. If drugs are legalized, the price will go down. And because the price is down, the gangs who fight over drugs will be less and less as time goes by. And most importantly, in Canada, drug sentencing will less and less.

Just think of it: You never see gangs fighting over cigarette smuggling and having a turf war on selling cigarettes on some corners. That is because cigarettes are legal. So when metha is legalized, the gangs epidemic that makes a living on drugs and the youth going to prisons because of it will be far less, at least in Canada.

 

[TekNiKo]

This is good for Geeljire trappers now they wont get arrested kkk

 

[Omar del Sur]

From religious perspective, I agree with you. We should always advocate the right deeds and always encourage people to do good.

However, I have a different perspective when I look at the fake war on drugs that America wages. The majority of victims are minority youth. In particular, the African American and Hispanic American youth. Entire generations are condemned to prison because this war on drugs is waged on them.

One area that you can easily observe is the sentencing for the drug-related crimes in both white and minority neighborhoods. In white neighborhoods, many of them are sent to rehabilitation centers or ordered to go through drug treatments in order to achieve reduced sentencing.

In minority neighborhoods, they mostly use the maximum sentencing where rehabilitation and drug treatments are hardly considered. This is the epicenter of the Jim Crow system.

So when I advocated for legalizing metha, I was coming from that angle. If drugs are legalized, the price will go down. And because the price is down, the gangs who fight over drugs will be less and less as time goes by. And most importantly, in Canada, drug sentencing will less and less.

Just think of it: You never see gangs fighting over cigarette smuggling and having a turf war on selling cigarettes on some corners. That is because cigarettes are legal. So when metha is legalized, the gangs epidemic that makes a living on drugs and the youth going to prisons because of it will be far less, at least in Canada.

I don't know how it is for all minorities but... is it really true that all minority youth from poverty sell drugs and an entire generation goes to prison? I would imagine that in a given generation, you have people who work ordinary jobs, go to college, etc. and then you have people who go the crime route. I do think you have some who get into illegal stuff out of desperation, lack of opportunities. I think if they arrest a drug dealer and they really truly have some kind of crazy situation, there should be some leniency. Honestly I think there should be leniency for a lot of people. But for example I knew someone who was working a full time job and selling crack on the side just for extra money and I don't think they at all needed to, they just wanted extra money.

If some person is coming from a truly desperate situation and they resort to selling drugs, I think there should be leniency. You don't cut the hand off a thief if they're truly desperate.

If someone is coming from a desperate situation and they resort to selling drugs out of sort of hopelessness and they for some reason can't just go the legal route and work a normal job... if you put them in prison for twenty years, if there's no leniency for people in certain situations... I think that is one extreme and I think legalizing meth is another extreme. I think the solution has to be somewhere in the middle.

 

[Moe]

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legal meth! you are treated like a criminal and basically some sort of terrorist in Canada if you don't want to be a guinea pig for an experimental vaccine....... but the government is ok with it if you want to smoke meth........

I've heard this term "anarcho-tyranny" recently.... I have heard this term a few times...... it really is real.... this really is "anarcho-tyranny"..... communist dictatorship against us oppressed purebloods...... libertarian free for all for degenerates

 

[Amal44]

Good, we'll save our tax dollars now because people won't get locked up for having small amounts of drugs like 2.5 grams.