What are the odds HSM will come back?

Pastoralist

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It’s 50/50. HSM is scum guy, he’s dismantled the SNA so they can’t oust him when it’s time and he’s purposefully surrounded the borders outside of Mogadishu with al shabaab so no external actors can enter the city by land to get him out.

Having already given up on Somalia, whether he comes back or not is of no concern to me. We’ve already seen what happens when a good president comes. FMS actors behave as roadblocks to anyone trying to move the county forward.

konfurta is like the river lands in asoiaf, never ending conflict with other parties using the ground as a stage for their conflict.
 
It’s 50/50. HSM is scum guy, he’s dismantled the SNA so they can’t oust him when it’s time and he’s purposefully surrounded the borders outside of Mogadishu with al shabaab so no external actors can enter the city by land to get him out.

Having already given up on Somalia, whether he comes back or not is of no concern to me. We’ve already seen what happens when a good president comes. FMS actors behave as roadblocks to anyone trying to move the county forward.

konfurta is like the river lands in asoiaf, never ending conflict with other parties using the ground as a stage for their conflict.
How strong is his Abgaal support? I'm surprised the locals of Mogadishu won't oust him despite AS being right outside.
 

Pastoralist

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How strong is his Abgaal support? I'm surprised the locals of Mogadishu won't oust him despite AS being right outside.
He’s at odds with his own clan of Waceysle. Only a small sub clan protecting him. Nonetheless, he has put that small sub into positions of power within the city, so when voting comes, his own clan will run the voter registration so that he may return, and everything outside of Mogadishu will be surrounded by Ethiopian troops or al shabaab, so that no one can enter.
 
What are the odds HSM will come back? And how do you feel about it?
He dissolved lots of oversight bodies, created his own political party, and the only cities reportedly preparing for one man one vote are hawiye towns/cities so all of this seems fishy

As @Pastoralist said its 50/50 but even if he isnt elected the next 2 likely candidates are deni and farmajo so either way this country is cooked :yloezpe: :yloezpe:
 
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He dissolved lots of oversight association and bodies, created his own political party, and the only cities reportedly preparing for one man one vote are hawiye towns/cities so all of this seems fishy

As @Pastoralist said its 50/50 but even if he isnt elected the next 3 more likely candidates are deni and farmajo so either way this country is cooked :yloezpe: :yloezpe:
Farmaajo and Deni are far from great but they are miles ahead of HSM. Like you said in another thread HSM is basically the next AY, insane levels of corruption and damage to the nation.
 
Farmaajo, I liked his national security architecture bill. It was well thought out.
Farmajo is as corrupt as HSM 😂 His family is living that khaleeji millionaire lifestyle in Qatar thanks to money he looted during his presidency, dont get me wrong hes not worse than HSM but nothing will change under him, might even get worse
 

Pastoralist

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He dissolved lots of oversight association and bodies, created his own political party, and the only cities reportedly preparing for one man one vote are hawiye towns/cities so all of this seems fishy

As @Pastoralist said its 50/50 but even if he isnt elected the next 3 more likely candidates are deni and farmajo so either way this country is cooked :yloezpe: :yloezpe:
You understand how dire the situation is. He rigged and took control of everything like you said, nonetheless it’s hard to see Hawkeye giving in to him. After all he’s looting them and SNA hawiye soldiers are being killed by AS under him.

Farmaajo likely won’t come back, he has no leg to stand on, deni has an entire state with its own self sustaining revenue. He’d be much better for consolidating Somalia,
 
Farmaajo, I liked his national security architecture bill. It was well thought out.
He focused on a lot of domestic policies intended to set a foundation for later administrations. HSM pissed away a lot of that and now Somalia is seeing more conflicts than ever. Worse president in the country's history
 

Pastoralist

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Farmajo is as corrupt as HSM 😂 His family is living that khaleeji millionaire lifestyle in Qatar thanks to money he looted during his presidency, dont get me wrong hes not worse than HSM but nothing will change under him, might even get worse
None of the ministers under cheese were loyal to him through clan or anything, yet they never reported him for embezzlement. Keep in mind the central bank and minister of finance were independent corruption oversight under cheese.
 
Farmaajo and Deni are far from great but they are miles ahead of HSM. Like you said in another thread HSM is basically the next AY, insane levels of corruption and damage to the nation.
Thats like someone offering you xaar or piss

Deni will be destructive in his own way, he will certainly replace turkey with UAE which might be the worse than anything HSM has done so far

Farmajo isnt as bad as HSM but he looted a similar amount of money, just because hes not as insane as HSM doesnt mean he'll change things
 
Thats like someone offering you xaar or piss

Deni will be destructive in his own way, he will certainly replace turkey with UAE which might be the worse than anything HSM has done so far

Farmajo isnt as bad as HSM but he looted a similar amount of money
Remains to be seen I suppose. Somali politics is extremely volatile
 
He focused on a lot of domestic policies intended to set a foundation for later administrations. HSM pissed away a lot of that and now Somalia is seeing more conflicts than ever. Worse president in the country's history
Yeah you're right, I feel like Farmajo at least tried to do something right before leaving office, read this thread btw interesting stuff

 
The "leader who will fix everything" is a myth. There has to be an entire societal transformation since I think the locals somewhat normalized this kind of corruption. Same with the north.

A youth lead movement is the only thing that can save Somalia at this point. Old khat heads should never be in charge.
Riiyo bad ku nooshy wlhi

Realistically the only way that country can be saved is through one man one vote but Im almost sure HSM is gonna sabotage it, its the 4.5 system which doesnt allow that leader to come forward

Also you dont even need a crazy good leader like that, just a normal one like any other normal country
 

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