Were Somalis Responsible Ethio War

[DR OSMAN]

The Russians abadoned us for a reason and the yemenis did also and backed Ethiopia? who put a jambal inside of us to fight? was it the americans so the soviet hand breaks on the shipping lane cause the saudis needed to use it. It's weird I am looking at the patterns now. We know ethios sent in rebel groups but that's after the war to ensure we do die for that stunt we pulled, they won't wait for us to re-group or find america as a partner in revenge.

But before that why did we start a war in an area that was soviet influenced yemen-ethio-somalia? we were definitely providing a scary situation for the saudis and americans who use that channel to send out the oil to the world. Who in the world got in siyad ear because he must of been an american mole to stir up beef with ethios and hurt the soviets and send their network into chaos.

Watch who provides advice but I am still looking to see what happened. I know their was somali-wayn project happening but that's irrelevant you won't jepordize that when your whole arms industry is provided by the russians, it's the last thing you will care about cause your gun source is the most important.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Anyways as Somalis we need to set up identifiers in our society to protect key people or key areas. It's better losing 100 tahrib guys who aren't gonna be any different to plantation workers then losing a YEY. If he was lost in the 90s, we may not be here today. We will be fine without the useless ones. That's when we prioritizing I mean, obviously all must be protected but that SCALES ALSO. What YEY did was say to 90 districts if we dont come to an agreements boys on federalism those two clan cities will turn us into mayors. It's like a check mate to get to us to agree cause we see there is a guy out there who was waiting to eat us alive.

Plus he used to say anaga waxba nagama xumanaysee oo daarood we will always be in either city selected to give it a national face, it will be the other clans who have take back seat since their spot is reserved for their capital city majority clan at all times and their regions start to lose and lose and become weak. You see it happening now even GM/HS/HY/ and HJ will be kicked out for SSC if they ever secure it to give SL a national face. Two clans will be left for WAQOYI in the end as they talk about how to boost each other to watch the others.

Same will happen in Mog between pl/jl working with Abgaal? notice abgaal is common denonimator for decade lol while MJ is getting his stuff on the side to remain relevant. While everyone else baidoa-gm-hs dying out.

We don't lose in centralism as darod we just know it won't last long as those other clans will seek foreign backers and will always be a MOLE among us for the picking by foreign eyes. Somalis are to addicted with DAROD losing, it won't happen. Even if the ikhwan wins an centralizes on south and north. It's just the Saudis will come and turn mog and hargeisa into parking lots as secessionists traded their policy for the second best deal they could get and throw out the food and trade with saudis and ethios because their politics is more important and they will need to do what the IKHWAN want foreign policy wise or noone is giving u nothing.

That will lead to a huge beef with saudi arabians. So darod wont be targetted they know we gain nothing from ikhwan and they see how long we been fighting their ass, they can review cairo conferences and see we walked out looooooool we aint staying around with 2 hawiye guy presidents.

The most we will do for saudis is give em hafun base on that jazira and get them to build a road there to keep the casualties low for us and that's if we even want any base activities cause with bases comes WAR that's what they are intended for to house military and that's target practise for war time. Kismayo may give the bajuni island up if it has too. Infact Bajuni islands is possibly where they will tell the saudis to go as it's less of our clan there. Mog will get pounded big time, saudis sniff a ikhwan and they go mad lol. Look at MORSI, look at QATAR.

 

[Grant]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pk9c1

General Galaal and Admiral Gorshakov. 1974.

The Derg changed everything. Somalia lost Russian support when Barre refused to stop the invasion of the Ethiopian highlands. Yemen and Cuba joined the fight in solidarity with the Communist Derg.

 

[DR OSMAN]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pk9c1

General Galaal and Admiral Gorshakov. 1974.

The Derg changed everything. Somalia lost Russian support when Barre refused to stop the invasion of the Ethiopian highlands. Yemen and Cuba joined the fight in solidarity with the Communist Derg.

That was interesting piece of history. He did stuff up siyad, you are in weaker position if your arms come from the outside, he needs to know his role and not push it to far plus know the person he is fighting and how important he is compared to him in all angles. He wasn't good politician siyad, he may of thought playing the tough man role will get him respect, it doesn't, it got him killed in the end.

Plus breaking deals is one of the worst things you can do in foreign policy, notice the americans didnt bother backing him, he just betrayed the USSR and he won't be loyal to them also when the time arises. Plus he has to consult his arms partner WTF does he think he was doing not consulting him. It's like going to your shopping center and they guaranteed you a supply of food or arms or whatever and then you start turning it on your neighbor who they want to secure as a friend.

The USSR turned around and even said hey you can take 95% of the land you got so your boys didn't die for nothing cause that's the worst shit when you go back home and say they died for nothing to their parents, they lose faith in the state and sour grapes develop and potential moles of the future them or their kids who look back and say my country just took my daddy or son away for nothing, very easy to work those ones up you got something to start with.

Once the world see those deal breakers in the world, their considered HIGH RISK. They don't operate any differently to banks and customers, if a bank throws your ass in bad credit history to save other banks from breaking the deal, the level of insurance and risk is also applied to national matters and even more HIGHER as it can affect the country, this can only affect the economy and bank.

 

[DR OSMAN]

We honestly can't rely on politicians in our nation, we just can't. We can get some mad man like siyad who gets us all killed in the end. We need architects there early on to shape that country path and design so well that the politicians just come and it's all decided and all they do is add the steps here and there and steer when their is hiccups.

That's why I am so BIG on principles, we can't just give them answers, you give them principles they can review it so it shapes their answers. Half the problem is not knowing what side to think as no direction is set. U leave principles they can use it for mellenias and adapt their answers.

That one bad foreign policy decision by siyad to kick the russians out and say we not talking to you traitor plus a very bad design to begin with(colonial inheritance) not answering cultural norms there, weak economy inside and everything dependent on the outside including our ARMS, ppl pissed off they lost the war at the ground(sentiments), opportunistic tribalist leaders seeing a good time to take the seat, seeing ethio will help cause they just went to war with this mad man, we are paying 30 years for that one foreign policy decision and the rest are just factors involved.

I guess military man need to stay out of our politics when it comes to foreign policy, they need to take a back seat and even if one is in power due to security focus in that era, he must delegate and just respect the decisions of the ones who know the area well after of course knowing he isn't influenced by something himself that's usually another problem, getting genuine advice.

But all our key areas economy-foreign-security-health-food-water-environment or anything that is so major that it will have a lasting effect on us must be dealt with through guided principles and who-ever comes just needs to add or remove or reshuffle mix n match towards those principles.

One pillar Scavenge alliances(roman method) in non hot spots nations. Two - MB attack from inside in nations if Scavenge is harder or longer or costly goal make the ppl love us and influence their country decisions thru where ppl congregate the most education, health, businesses, charities, etc.

The problem with lobbies is, it's short term and can change and unreliable after that leader leaves. Going thru the ppl is longer but it longer lasting also. Look how the MB changed us from 80s till now. I think we can speed up the process. MB don't get involved till SIMAD university. We just get involved around 5 year old child level and watch his ass till 20 under our areas. He will have kids eventually and new ppl come. It should be quick shift happening across that people pool.

3rd pillar - Existing world using a human body approach for each country and where it suits best. Our key priorities need to come first and say 100 years for saudi arabia while those other lines are working for us. I just want massive lines working for us while we sit there and deal with the current world and they keep taking big losses.

 

[DR OSMAN]

They will find it suspicious if we go after each school, so we do some schools, and some child care facilities, some playgrounds, just areas where kids come for a big part of their time during different phases of their life in a mix and match and start poisoning very slowly in each area. They are usually the most open to 'input' the rest tend to argue back as they get older. In the end we want them heading into society already BIASED.

So from 5 to 10 or something the focus must be different, then we see them again 10-15 now their in another phase but they remember us and welcome us remember the BIAS is there, more potent poisoning as they trust us already. Let them go after 20. They will enter a field and due to the bias already they are gonna find a way to defend u even if its irrational, its just how ppl are. The key is your still making ya money and changing a mind while your at it. That's the key cause if one fails the other works or you may score big on both. U just dont walk out with a loss.

It's far more productive sitting there then in the mid-east, you can monitor it happening over time then u start rating each nation u did it too and score them on how biased they are towards u and where it's highest and lowest and find out why their is difference.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The mind is strange, most life are passing moments when u look back and then when u look back at the child areas it's stick out very big compared to the passing moments and when they look back and reflect which everyone does a bias kicks in and that's what u need to do u want to be in those major moment parts not the passing moments.

A chinese nanny sticks out like a big thumb to me in all my memories as I was in her lap leaving for airport and crying. Then other moments for me are playing basketball as a teen, riding bike, concerts at school, see sxb we need to be around with our big faces in those parts of their life, the sticking moments. Not the moments they look back on and it flickers away or they dont recall. Going overseas for the first time after 18, we need to be THERE. All those big FIRST THINGS.

 

[James Dahl]

Short answer is yes

Longer answer is the United Nations screwed Somalia at the end of World War 2 by restoring all the conquered provinces that had been re-assigned to Somalia by Italy back to Ethiopia, then the British abandoned the upper Haud shortly thereafter, and this was complete bullshit, so it was also perfectly understandable.

Only South Yemen attacked Somalia, North Yemen was neutral.