US senator voices support for Somaliland & Taiwan

DR OSMAN

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Waxan waa Hargeisa laga heesaya(old school moryans as they laugh those niggas r pimped the easiest cause of their fudeednimo dee around khat) and they know knows it means( wa tabar daran yihin iyo buranbuur) waxasi uma baxayan iyagu unless they find a way to mashruc it.

Somalis all know moryan red eyes and play deaf, dumb, blind to it. Every clan has them don't get me wrong but Mogadishu has them utilised always where as other clans tend to shun them away(their edge), plus due to environmental favorability(stateless) the breeding grounds has selected them in more quantity but I'm always aware their is ciyaal xafaad culture still present which was not in my time there(as all the savages came in from regions) and those ciyaall xaafaads were kinda(shit talking or small talk locals).

I mean u r in civil war context, it's stupid to bring wadani nationalist or wadaads to such theater. Each to his own I guess.

All clans in Somalia were raised in different homes, different time periods, different locations(local, continental, global), different ways of life emerge even within a clan itself(hence toxicity levels).

Those red eyes is when I get my game on, but when it's usual business as usual context(fkd, events la siyasadayo, horgals, dano dhaqaale, the clans historical political direction) I'm kinda just go off and let it play out in the media while scouring the next schemes.

Somali moryanimo is basically he is your best friend at all times as long the interest is there(loot), u won't ever detect it and if u do he ain't real moryan, and if u target him he will use the deeni, somali, siyasad, or whatever to make himself a persecuted messiah. So if I go to.mogadishu I know I'm just not letting my guard down u can if you want cause if your too comfortable and laughing always someone playing a mashruc on u or scoping u fudeednimo or watever that maybe(wadani, deeni, beauty, status, tolnimo, siyasad, etc).
 
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DR OSMAN

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@Somali Saayid

We are here and in our early to mid 30s now those kids I used to be around sxb plus the odd thing for me was I didn't adjust to it like they did so I did come with a diaspora gullible outlook

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Sxb everyone in Somalia and overseas know the topic u avoid is usually the thing u fear, Somalis don't fear Islam cause they talk about it alot nor somalinimo or siyasad or any topic in thise natural world but them red eyed generation who are in various mashrucyo behind the theater u report on plus the diaspora ppl who were there when I was, I heard their in absolute traumatic states after it in Their home countries now. Sxb u guys all play dumb to a whole generation like us who saw it as diaspora or lived it as a kid and just skip to 1960s nationalism or colonialism. A new value system emerged post 91 keep living in political.masks if u want but that theater will continue till akhiro.
 
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Itsnotthateasy

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He is implying that China is supporting Khatumo forces whom he labels as "anti-Somaliland"


The hearing is about China's malign influence but the state department policies are all War on Terror era and they can't articulate a meaningful position on countering china within that framework. The state department simply responded with we currently recognize the territorial integrity of Somalia and these states (Somaliand, Puntland, South etc) shouldn't be politically infighting and they should focus on the insurgency together which really doesn't answer the question at all. It shows the old set of policies is meeting a new emerging political reality.

I can see a balance emerging between these two interests. A one Somaglia policy or One Italian Somaliland policy to counter the insurgency alongside the recognition of Somaliland.

This seems fairly obvious. I may expand on this point later in an thread titled, Towards a One Somaglia Policy.
 

DR OSMAN

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The hearing is about China's malign influence but the state department policies are all War on Terror era and they can't articulate a meaningful position on countering china within that framework. The state department simply responded with we currently recognize the territorial integrity of Somalia and these states (Somaliand, Puntland, South etc) shouldn't be politically infighting and they should focus on the insurgency together which really doesn't answer the question at all. It shows the old set of policies is meeting a new emerging political reality.

I can see a balance emerging between these two interests. A one Somaglia policy or One Italian Somaliland policy to counter the insurgency alongside the recognition of Somaliland.

This seems fairly obvious. I may expand on this point later in an thread titled, Towards a One Somaglia Policy.

Scary legal loopholes(territorial) means just the borders not its political independence(you have the land and its borders as 1960 union but your government status is up for various instruments they can use where their concerned with security only aspects and I think the UN does give some bend to the rules if lives are on the line or global stability. Ironically they don't give development partners(infrastructure) the clear to work(somali horumar is definitely the biggest desire n will of its ppl) with any region in Somalia while respecting the territorial integrity not its political integrity and they can favilitate faro gelin by using the Somalia is a regional and global.threat and exceptional case to the rules based system. If I get PL autonomy(political freedom) that's all I care for not the nation hood crap I just want us dhuuqin something and security partnerships.

I rarely ever talk about any other region Hawl ii taal ma aha, waa stretching ur hand beyond what u do have a say in, waa imaan la'an plus i know u I got my own issues to worry about ama wixi aan aniga ku fadhiye.

PL for what it's worth did achieve our goal of Somalia govt being eatablished and recognized but our other major goal and our federalism rights has been a nitemare. Noone in the 98 summit signed up for 25 year time waste and nothing to show for it, lots of eyes r going red there also.
 
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DR OSMAN

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See Moryans won't touch me in Hamar or Garowe cause I got stake in there, u got dog in the fight your own interests. That's how they think but the second they know u dont(new arrival the red eyes are there but their monitoring stage if it's a mashruc, displacement project laga tiro batay, iyo wixi ka.dambeeyo from.moryans of those regions). But the cities are now diverse in Somalia, it's really hard to tell the safety but I ain't going there I know how risky they r cause u wont see it coming cause when your young kid your formative years and if your exposed to as diaspora returnee when noone was returning but fleeing cause your the old diaspora before 91, it changes your life without i knowing it(undiagnosed red eyes).
 
One simple question you all need to ask yourselves. Why do they always play these games instead of recognizing Taiwan or even Suuliland? Because they are tools to be used. The tools also enjoy being used over and over and then discarded.
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@DR OSMAN Warya Dr Strange sip your nonsensical rambling and answer these simple questions. Maybe you will learn something. Did America beg King George for recognition? Did Israel beg the unfortunate Palestinians? If you even have to beg you’re not worth being given anything by such logic.
 

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@DR OSMAN Warya Dr Strange sip your nonsensical rambling and answer these simple questions. Maybe you will learn something. Did America beg King George for recognition? Did Israel beg the unfortunate Palestinians? If you even have to beg you’re not worth being given anything by such logic.
Those countries were recognized pre ww2, maybe if a ww3 happens I wud encourage an independence for PL, it's a new world but a scramble for the globe has to happen either slowly, gradually, geopolitically, or directly isku dhac.
 
Those countries were recognized pre ww2, maybe if a ww3 happens I wud encourage an independence for PL, it's a new world but a scramble for the globe has to happen either slowly, gradually, geopolitically, or directly isku dhac.
So what about Syria? It was just recently taken over violently and their new government is recognized already. It’s about power and value. It’s never been about beginning, not now not ever. Value = natural resources. Power is pretty self explanatory
 

Somali Saayid

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So what about Syria? It was just recently taken over violently and their new government is recognized already. It’s about power and value. It’s never been about beginning, not now not ever. Value = natural resources. Power is pretty self explanatory
Secessionism is very different from violent coup or rebellion. The latter is a continuation of the previous body of Goverment in a new form meanwhile the former completely breaks of and forms a completely new entity distinct from its mother country.
 

Itsnotthateasy

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One simple question you all need to ask yourselves. Why do they always play these games instead of recognizing Taiwan or even Suuliland? Because they are tools to be used. The tools also enjoy being used over and over and then discarded.
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Always the same tired rhetoric.

Can't even call Somaliland by its name because you know you have no point so turn to insults.

This is a clear step forward for Somaliland.
 
Secessionism is very different from violent coup or rebellion. The latter is a continuation of the previous body of Goverment in a new form meanwhile the former completely breaks of and forms a completely new entity distinct from its mother country.
Imho there isn’t a real difference. They are both the same thing. It’s a distinction without a difference. A violent coup only succeeds if it leaves no other choice or alternative. Secessionism only succeeds if there is likewise no other alternative. In SL‘s case, there are clear alternatives. Legalese won’t get SL recognition obviously. This is realpolitik.
 

Somali Saayid

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Always the same tired rhetoric.

Can't even call Somaliland because you know you have no point so turn to insults.

This is a clear step forward for Somaliland.
How many clear steps forward till independence? How many more years of "BIG" developments or promising deals. How many more times are we gonna hear "in the coming days, or weeks, or months, or years?"
 
How many clear steps forward till independence? How many more years of "BIG" developments or promising deals. How many more times are we gonna hear "in the coming days, or weeks, or months, or years?"
Sxb, it’s identity politics at this point. It’s so ingrained in his and SL’ers identity that he needs this narrative to keep fueling his desire to exist. It’s probably not even about actual recognition, the never-ending search itself seems to be deeply gratifying for them. If they stop looking or admit it won’t happen then their entire identity and SL as a whole collapses :icon lol:
 

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