Ukraine ha burburto

Shimbiris

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It's funny how these gaalo think the Somali shacab think the way some trolls do on this forum. Most folks back home don't think about Europeans let alone hate them. They at best sometimes think to tahriib and live in the more well-off European countries and they certainly don't care about Russia. They do speak well of China but only because it does actual noticeable development work in Somalia. They speak well of Turks for the same reason.
 
Didnt realize how much Somalis back home rely on Ukraine wheat

We are the mercy of so many countries its unreal, need to be Self- sufficient asap
 

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Didnt realize how much Somalis back home rely on Ukraine wheat

We are the mercy of so many countries its unreal, need to be Self- sufficient asap

Food in Somalia is in absolutely horrendous condition, especially Puntland. Subxanallah. They import most things like eggs and poultry from bloody Brazil of all places and most of the meat animals wondering around town are chewing on paper, cardboard and plastic en-masse. Can you believe they have close to no dairies to speak of? I've heard of like one decent one in Hargeyso but otherwise... a fucking pastoral nomad heritage having country and there's no dairy industry, man. Subxanallah. They also cook most things in aldehyde ridden seed oils that are obvious imports and will sometimes, I shit you not, be confused if you ask if they cook food in subag then they drown all the fish, chicken and meat in herbs and spices and most of your plate is some starch like rice, pasta and local flatbreads like canjeero. Even the "raw camel milk" they sell in cities tastes like it's laced with something though I admit I didn't gain weight or experience much stomach upset while drinking it.

Just shambles, saaxiib. But the bright-side is that there is real opportunity to be had for diasporans like us. Start everything from the ground up. Dairies, poultries, proper butcher shops and meat processing plants, fish farming, olive groves, date-farms... it's all ripe for the taking and they haven't exhausted the underground aquifers much from what I can tell. Dig some wells, properly and efficiently irrigate the land, create reservoirs, ponds and artificial lakes to preserve what sparse rain-water we get (at least in the northeast where I'm from) and give the aquifers some respite while greening the land and adopt rotational techniques with the animals and crops. It can be done and these saaxiibs can eat proper and local food again like their ancestors. Just needs a lot of work.

I don't want us to end up like the UAE. 60-80% of our food coming from ajanabis and being dependent on garbage like starches and seed oils. God help us.
 
Food in Somalia is in absolutely horrendous condition, especially Puntland. Subxanallah. They import most things like eggs and poultry from bloody Brazil of all places and most of the meat animals wondering around town are chewing on paper, cardboard and plastic en-masse. Can you believe they have close to no dairies to speak of? I've heard of like one decent one in Hargeyso but otherwise... a fucking pastoral nomad heritage having country and there's no dairy industry, man. Subxanallah. They also cook most things in aldehyde ridden seed oils that are obvious imports and will sometimes, I shit you not, be confused if you ask if they cook food in subag then they drown all the fish, chicken and meat in herbs and spices and most of your plate is some starch like rice, pasta and local flatbreads like canjeero. Even the "raw camel milk" they sell in cities tastes like it's laced with something though I admit I didn't gain weight or experience much stomach upset while drinking it.

Just shambles, saaxiib. But the bright-side is that there is real opportunity to be had for diasporans like us. Start everything from the ground up. Dairies, poultries, proper butcher shops and meat processing plants, fish farming, olive groves, date-farms... it's all ripe for the taking and they haven't exhausted the underground aquifers much from what I can tell. Dig some wells, properly and efficiently irrigate the land, create reservoirs, ponds and artificial lakes to preserve what sparse rain-water we get (at least in the northeast where I'm from) and give the aquifers some respite while greening the land and adopt rotational techniques with the animals and crops. It can be done and these saaxiibs can eat proper and local food again like their ancestors. Just needs a lot of work.

I don't want us to end up like the UAE. 60-80% of our food coming from ajanabis and being dependent on garbage like starches and seed oils. God help us.
The problem is lack of refrigeration and processing raw milk into dairy products and the one big solution to that is cheap and readily available electricity which is incredibly important if you want to modernize and industrialize your country. Ethiopia is doing that at the moment but at our expense by damming our rivers during a 4 year drought, so really the title should be ethiopia haa burburto.
 

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The problem is lack of refrigeration and processing raw milk into dairy products and the one big solution to that is cheap and readily available electricity which is incredibly important if you want to modernize and industrialize your country. Ethiopia is doing that at the moment but at our expense by damming our rivers during a 4 year drought, so really the title should be ethiopia haa burburto.

Yes, I talked about this in another thread.

Somalis need to develop proper industries. No more just shipping off whole livestock. Process and sell leather and other hide products. Get into dairy like Saudis and Almarai. Get into wool and grass-fed/free-range meat for more affluent markets. Open more tuna factories or get selling dried fish and fish farms. Textiles, mining and processing metals from our more mountainous parts... Date syrup instead of just Dates. Our economy is very immature and so much, I'm noticing during recent visits, is just imported.

The big hurdle, though, is energy. All of that is energy intensive and Somalia lacks, for now, really abundant and cheap energy. Even with investors that's a hurdle we need to conquer somehow. Smacking aside the gaalo's renewable hard-on and just getting into fossil fuel exploitation seems the likeliest bet, if you ask me.

Our biggest issue is getting cheap and abundant energy which we sadly don't really have. I do recall talking to some local relatives and engineers about various business ideas and they'd often say "It's a great idea, wallahi, but the energy costs are too high and the availability just isn't there." and they're not wrong. But there are are some clever ways around this for now. We can do what gaalo used to do back in the day and still do in parts of Germany and Holland and just base our dairy industry more around raw dairy in the meantime, for example.
 
Why can't we use solar?is it too expansive, also we have alott of Uranium reserves we should learn how to construct nuclear power plants for energy. By the way how come even Turkey has problem constructing neckwear power plants for energy, is it elegal?
 
Yes, I talked about this in another thread.



Our biggest issue is getting cheap and abundant energy which we sadly don't really have. I do recall talking to some local relatives and engineers about various business ideas and they'd often say "It's a great idea, wallahi, but the energy costs are too high and the availability just isn't there." and they're not wrong. But there are are some clever ways around this for now. We can do what gaalo used to do back in the day and still do in parts of Germany and Holland and just base our dairy industry more around raw dairy in the meantime, for example.
I remember reading that besides oil that Somalia also had gas and coal which can both be exploited for cheap energy, we don't have the luxury of waiting for some hail mary cheap renewable technology. If these gaalos were serious about climate change they'd reduce their own ridiculous consumption and share their technologies with the developing world.

I agree with you on that point that somalis need to look for low or no energy industrial process solutions until the time that we can produce cheap electricity of our own. Solar's good but I heard that it's better for household use than for industry.
Why can't we use solar?is it too expansive, also we have alott of Uranium reserves we should learn how to construct nuclear power plants for energy. By the way how come even Turkey has problem constructing neckwear power plants for energy, is it elegal?
Touching uranium with during a time such as this with a weak state with even weaker institutions in the middle of an insurgency would be complete disaster sxb.
 

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Touching uranium with during a time such as this with a weak state with even weaker institutions in the middle of an insurgency would be complete disaster sxb.

*Somali politician brings up exploiting our uranium reserves in a café in Xamar only for said café to be laser-beamed from orbit before this conversation even concludes*
 
Food in Somalia is in absolutely horrendous condition, especially Puntland. Subxanallah. They import most things like eggs and poultry from bloody Brazil of all places and most of the meat animals wondering around town are chewing on paper, cardboard and plastic en-masse. Can you believe they have close to no dairies to speak of? I've heard of like one decent one in Hargeyso but otherwise... a fucking pastoral nomad heritage having country and there's no dairy industry, man. Subxanallah. They also cook most things in aldehyde ridden seed oils that are obvious imports and will sometimes, I shit you not, be confused if you ask if they cook food in subag then they drown all the fish, chicken and meat in herbs and spices and most of your plate is some starch like rice, pasta and local flatbreads like canjeero. Even the "raw camel milk" they sell in cities tastes like it's laced with something though I admit I didn't gain weight or experience much stomach upset while drinking it.

Just shambles, saaxiib. But the bright-side is that there is real opportunity to be had for diasporans like us. Start everything from the ground up. Dairies, poultries, proper butcher shops and meat processing plants, fish farming, olive groves, date-farms... it's all ripe for the taking and they haven't exhausted the underground aquifers much from what I can tell. Dig some wells, properly and efficiently irrigate the land, create reservoirs, ponds and artificial lakes to preserve what sparse rain-water we get (at least in the northeast where I'm from) and give the aquifers some respite while greening the land and adopt rotational techniques with the animals and crops. It can be done and these saaxiibs can eat proper and local food again like their ancestors. Just needs a lot of work.

I don't want us to end up like the UAE. 60-80% of our food coming from ajanabis and being dependent on garbage like starches and seed oils. God help us.
Bruh, you hit nail on the head sxb. The sweet cano isn’t laced, it’s just boiled and watered down for profit as for the one u prolly think is laced it caano suusac, its fermented. I think ur aware of it. As for proper butcheries, told my abti abt in when I was in kismayo, I’ll prolly give it a try and see if it takes off InshAllah. The meat processing industry is non existent in somalia. It’s so unhealthy and dirty when u pass through the suuqs, people buy hilib in the mornings when it’s butchered fresh, early in the mornings. Flies all over the meat and shit. Just absolute wasaq. As for the water reservoirs in kismayo there is one called “haad weyne.” Which supplies the entire city. It’s piped from a tuulo with the same name. The only two industries I see with potential is meat and milk processing as for poultry, majority of Somalis don’t consume white meat in the motherland. The bajun and Madow boys have a monopoly when it comes to the fishing industry in kismayo. They’re the ones that fish, sell and mostly consume it.
 
as long as the country is stuck in tribalism they will always be 100s of years behind societies that have progressed from the stone ages
 

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