UK Halts A UN Investigation Into Las Anod Genocide

[DR OSMAN]

that's all you mention tho tribe this and that every bloody time...

What should I mention. Capitalist and Socialist. Secular and Theocracy. Democracy or Dictatorship? they haven't reached that stage of IQ, their tribes and that's it, that's all they believe in and that's how I judge them. When they prove me otherwise, then u have a leg to stand on.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

God I can’t wait till the UK collapses. They are such a roadblock

 

[Hilmaam]

Xamar and South Somalia atmis colony can’t be trusted allegence not with average somali. Reason why they don’t speak on somaliland and las canood situation as it’s not a series government. Fighting for independence from 3rd world Africans smh

 

[SilentE1001]

What should I mention. Capitalist and Socialist. Secular and Theocracy. Democracy or Dictatorship? they haven't reached that stage of IQ, their tribes and that's it, that's all they believe in and that's how I judge them. When they prove me otherwise, then u have a leg to stand on.

So you judge people based on groups.

don't ever say that you believe in a unified somali state as you clearly believe your tribe to be better than others.

 

[SilentE1001]

Xamar and South Somalia atmis colony can’t be trusted allegence not with average somali. Reason why they don’t speak on somaliland and las canood situation as it’s not a series government. Fighting for independence from 3rd world Africans smh

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where was all your voices when the people of banjuni island were being killed and expelled

where was you during the fighting and massacres in baidoa

you only care for issues either tribal relation or anti-SL like 90% of the people on here

 

[Hilmaam]

where was all your voices when the people of banjuni island were being killed and expelled

where was you during the fighting and massacres in baidoa

you only care for issues either tribal relation or anti-SL like 90% of the people on here

I am anti somaliland and I do have bias towards to dhulbhante They have much better future own their own not playing second fiddle under make belief country

 

[GaradShabeel]

where was all your voices when the people of banjuni island were being killed and expelled

where was you during the fighting and massacres in baidoa

you only care for issues either tribal relation or anti-SL like 90% of the people on here

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Very disingenuous of you.

You try make yourself and SL appear as tribalist-free, when in fact you are no different from other Somalis.

Speaking about people being anti-SL. I can guarantee you that SL on average are more anti-Somalia then the opposite. And rejoice whenever a tragedy happens in Somalia.

SL tries to make the ordeal in SSC as a tribal ambitions, when it’s the contrary. The cause behind all this, is your secessionist aspirations causing people to split alone clan lines, simply for wanting remain in their country (even G Jamac G Ali pointed this out in his latest interview). And then killing them for expressing themselves.

Hold yourself accountable before calling other people out, as you don’t seem genuine.

 

[SilentE1001]

I am anti somaliland and I do have bias towards to dhulbhante They have much better future own their own not playing second fiddle under make belief country

they're not second fiddle tho, dunno who taught you that...

this is what happens when you take you're facts from unreliable sources and 1 side...

 

[repo]

they're not second fiddle tho, dunno who taught you that...

this is what happens when you take you're facts from unreliable sources and 1 side...

Your clan is literally shelling fellow "Somalilanders". You are a disingenuous clown and I hope more of your people get hit by a 50 cal.

 

[SilentE1001]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Very disingenuous of you.

You try make yourself and SL appear as tribalist-free, when in fact you are no different from other Somalis.

Speaking about people being anti-SL. I can guarantee you that SL on average are more anti-Somalia then the opposite. And rejoice whenever a tragedy happens in Somalia.

SL tries to make the ordeal in SSC as a tribal ambitions, when it’s the contrary. The cause behind all this your secessionist aspirations causing people to split alone clan lines, simply for wanting remain in their country. And then killing them.

Hold yourself accountable before calling other people out, as you don’t seem genuine.

Never once said Somaliland doesn't have an issue with tribalism, it's still a very big problem that is very very very slowingly being removed that is facing some setbacks (kulmiye)

"SL on average are more anti-Somalia" have you been on the internet since it began
mainly those in diaspora as i've travelled accross somalia and somaliland nothing but love.

you gotta do some more reading (if you can)

 

[SilentE1001]

Your clan is literally shelling fellow "Somalilanders". You are a disingenuous clown and I hope more of your people get hit by a 50 cal.

Unverified.

since the first day, SSC militia attacked the Army camped outside the city for the conference that's how this war began. if the militia didn't ambush the army outside the city it might have been different.

The army have used artillery on location where they're being fired from, there's numerous videos which you've chosen to ignore of SSC militia of using houses as cover to fire from technicalls and firing from inside houses then mostl likely when they fire back and it damages the house pictures are taken an shared accross social media.

Think long and hard, if Somaliland wanted to destroy the city and genocide as you all claim you really think after 2 weeks there would be destruction everywhere and there's probably no more than 200 troops involved. more would be in ruin, the city and surrounding areas only just before this year was beginning to be alot more involved and more services added. they would need to spend even more money to destroy but the Anti-Somaliland propaganda is too strong.

Somaliland can't compete when for the last 15 years all the SL officials that were getting assisinated was blamed on Somaliland despite repeated video evidence of khatuumo and PL officials shouting about that they should kill any Somaliland official in Sool

 

[GaradShabeel]

Never once said Somaliland doesn't have an issue with tribalism, it's still a very big problem that is very very very slowingly being removed that is facing some setbacks (kulmiye)

"SL on average are more anti-Somalia" have you been on the internet since it began
mainly those in diaspora as i've travelled accross somalia and somaliland nothing but love.

you gotta do some more reading (if you can)

The bolded part may be a tad exaggeration, as most seem to have no problem against each other. So nothing against the masses. But if we get down to it and if those sentiments are expressed publicly, my points then still stands. Especially your politicians. (Even though it happens on both sides, but not on the same level). Kulmiye seems to be the punching bag, that most SL blame on. But it exist beyond them. Just look at figures like Faisal Warabe. It rather a problem within the establishment/system, rather then one clan as some make it to be.

I personally have nothing against SL to be frank, and critiquing them won’t make you one either. I’ve been to SL as well. My problem with SL lies with how it handles people who don’t agree with them. Expressing your beliefs shouldn’t render a death sentence. Look at how people are being punished for believing in maintaining the union. Like the dozen+ killed in dec/jan and now branding them as terrorist and waging a war (you’ve now burnt all bridges, even among those remaining pro-SL in SSC). Or those (marginalized clans) from the opposition party last year being killed.

These responsibility lies solely on SL gov’t. They knew that it always existed; how majority of SSC are pro Somalia. Never even did they try to peacefully approach them with a solution, even a system within SL to satisfy them (don’t think they would agree, but still an attempt would’ve been worth the try). More problems will now unfortunately arise in the rest of SL, unless they stop turning blind to your existential problems (like Ali Khalif predicted).

 

[SilentE1001]

The bolded part may be a tad exaggeration, as most seem to have no problem against each other. So nothing against the masses. But if we get down to it and if those sentiments are expressed publicly, my points then still stands. Especially your politicians. (Even though it happens on both sides, but not on the same level). Kulmiye seems to be the punching bag, that most SL blame on. But it exist beyond them. Just look at figures like Faisal Warabe. It rather a problem within the establishment/system, rather then one clan as some make it to be.

I personally have nothing against SL to be frank, and critiquing them won’t make you one either. I’ve been to SL as well. My problem with SL lies with how it handles people who don’t agree with them. Expressing your beliefs shouldn’t render a death sentence. Look at how people are being punished for believing in maintaining the union. Like the dozen+ killed in dec/jan and now branding them as terrorist and waging a war (you’ve now burnt all bridges, even among those remaining pro-SL in SSC). Or those marginalized clans from the opposition party last year being killed.

These responsibility lies solely on SL gov’t. They that it always existed; how majority of SSC are pro Somalia. Never even tried to peacefully approach them with a solution, even within SL to satisfy them (don’t thing the would agree, but still). More problems will arise in the rest of SL, unless they genuinely turn blind to your existential problem (like Ali Khalif predicted)

Ali Khalif (AUN) had the right idea

when he made the peace agreement with Siilanyo before the elections there his main proposal was to re-open the constitution or similar. which is why the last election the turnout in East Sool was much larger than ever before.

but Bihi Kulmiye won by 80k but the year after Kulmiye lost the majority in parliament the next year but the way the parliament works is flawed and needs changing

alot of people in somaliland saw this coming over the last few years and this govt tried temp solutions but project here and there but the main thing people wan't is involvement if people don't feel that they're part of something that's making their lives better they will revolt. we saw that in Hargeisa after many years of having a corrupt mayor doing nothing but taking money turned to protest that turned violent.

it's just the militia that are terrorist if its reported at 180k have fled the city is a ghost town with only maybe a few hundred inside.

If Somaliland does somehow take back the city it will take much longer for the people to turnaround and even more money then before to get their trust back. i've a feeling the conflict will end before ramadan AND I DONT KNOW WILL WIN (there are no winners either way)

 

[GaradShabeel]

Ali Khalif (AUN) had the right idea

when he made the peace agreement with Siilanyo before the elections there his main proposal was to re-open the constitution or similar. which is why the last election the turnout in East Sool was much larger than ever before.

but Bihi Kulmiye won by 80k but the year after Kulmiye lost the majority in parliament the next year but the way the parliament works is flawed and needs changing

alot of people in somaliland saw this coming over the last few years and this govt tried temp solutions but project here and there but the main thing people wan't is involvement if people don't feel that they're part of something that's making their lives better they will revolt. we saw that in Hargeisa after many years of having a corrupt mayor doing nothing but taking money turned to protest that turned violent.

it's just the militia that are terrorist if its reported at 180k have fled the city is a ghost town with only maybe a few hundred inside.

If Somaliland does somehow take back the city it will take much longer for the people to turnaround and even more money then before to get their trust back. i've a feeling the conflict will end before ramadan AND I DONT KNOW WILL WIN (there are no winners either way)

Agreed sxb. I may have raveled against SL since the conflict began, but it was more towards the govt, than its people. But I hope they find a solution that satisfies the people of SSC, and Somalis are stopped being killed. No one benefits from it.

Personally, I think it’s over for SL in SSC. But regardless of how the war ends, it will require peace talks to find a way forward. (It will require SL to move back their forces a bit, to get it started in my opinion). Just like how the SSC isimo expressed in their communique, at the end of the summit.

I may not agree with you on everything, but I agree that it needs to end as soon as possible.

 

[SilentE1001]

Agreed sxb. I may have raveled against SL since the conflict began, but it was more towards the govt, than its people. But I hope they find a solution that satisfies the people of SSC, and Somalis are stopped being killed. No one benefits from it.

Personally, I think it’s over for SL in SSC. But regardless of how the war ends, it will require peace talks to find a way forward. (It will require SL to move back their forces a bit, to get it started in my option). Just like how the SSC isimo expressed in their communique, at the end of the summit.

I may not agree with you on everything, but I agree that it ends very soon.

exactly.

but like the Somaliland & Somalia talks both sides are stubborn and will not meet in the middle. both sides have demands that are red lines it's gonna be whoever runs out of money first

I don't think they want another Buuhoodle status quo where somaliland controls all the towns around it but just leaves buuhoodle as it is...

I've been to buuhoodle it was a weird drive up got the widh widh and you see Dawlada Hoose SL few police guys and school MCH with somaliland signage then you get to buuhoodle you see a somalia flag but I still saw some SL signs on buildings.

 

[GaradShabeel]

exactly.

but like the Somaliland & Somalia talks both sides are stubborn and will not meet in the middle. both sides have demands that are red lines it's gonna be whoever runs out of money first

I don't think they want another Buuhoodle status quo where somaliland controls all the towns around it but just leaves buuhoodle as it is...

I've been to buuhoodle it was a weird drive up got the widh widh and you see Dawlada Hoose SL few police guys and school MCH with somaliland signage then you get to buuhoodle you see a somalia flag but I still saw some SL signs on buildings.

Right. People were clowning PL last month when they come out with their stance on the constitution. That it will require SL-Som + PL-SL talks, and obviously now SSC-SL, before it can be finalized. Retaining the stalemate, will cause uncertainty and risk of more war.

As far as Buuhoodle, I think it’s extraordinary exception. Since it already border ETH, and part of the town is located on the other side, so they are somewhat independent of SL.

In Laascaanood, SL (I believe) has presence in Tukaraq. So they are currently surrounded, unless the fighting continues and SL forces are expelled. Otherwise, SSC will feel a looming threat, and most likely won’t settle like this. Maybe if SL vacates (highly unlikely).

I might be clueless, but does SL have military presence in all of eastern Sool and Sanag? Caused most of SSC people expressed/declared to be independent of SL. So unless SL has military presence in these towns, I think they will most like set up a SSC administration. But I’m not sure, as I don’t know the plan that SSC has right now.