They are our enemies

British Foreign Minister Lord Curzon addressing the British Prime Minister shortly before the Second World War. He stated,

“We must put an end to anything which brings about any Islamic unity between the sons of the Muslims. As we have already succeeded in finishing off the Khilafah so we must endure that there will never arise again unity for the Muslims whether it be intellectual or cultural unity” (this means the unity on the viewpoint about life, something that affects daily affairs, namely the social, economic, education and ruling systems of Islam).
Lord Curzon
 
British Foreign Minister Lord Curzon addressing the British Prime Minister shortly before the Second World War. He stated,

“We must put an end to anything which brings about any Islamic unity between the sons of the Muslims. As we have already succeeded in finishing off the Khilafah so we must endure that there will never arise again unity for the Muslims whether it be intellectual or cultural unity” (this means the unity on the viewpoint about life, something that affects daily affairs, namely the social, economic, education and ruling systems of Islam).
Lord Curzon
And yet so many Somalis bootyclap for Saudi Arabia after they collaborated with Britain to destroy the Khilafah :meleshame:
 

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And yet so many Somalis bootyclap for Saudi Arabia after they collaborated with Britain to destroy the Khilafah :meleshame:
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Who ordained the Caliphate to the Ottomans?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Selim declared the Ottoman state as a Caliphate after he conquered the Hijaz. The Umayyads and Abbasids also strayed away from the traditional way of the Caliphate (Shura) tbh.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sultan Selim declared the Ottoman state as a Caliphate after he conquered the Hijaz. The Umayyads and Abbasids also strayed away from the traditional way of the Caliphate (Shura) tbh.
Rasulullah said to follow the most pious of us. It should've been a meritocracy. Neither God nor Mohamed give them the title. Ottomans drank alcohol, screwed little boys, overtaxed citizens, and maintained harems. There's a hadith that says after the caliphate period there'll be a kingship/tyrant period, who is to say they weren't that rather than rightful caliphs like the prophet's sahibs.
 
Rasulullah said to follow the most pious of us. It should've been a meritocracy. Neither God nor Mohamed give them the title. Ottomans drank alcohol, screwed little boys, overtaxed citizens, and maintained harems. There's a hadith that says after the caliphate period there'll be a kingship/tyrant period, who is to say they weren't that rather than rightful caliphs like the prophet's sahibs.
Good point. The Ottomans were getting especially degenerate towards the end of their reign. The thing is that the Umayyads and Abbasids had a lot of tyrannical rulers and things like harems and also discrimination towards Non-Arabs but are still considered Caliphates as well. Either way, to hell with Al Saud :mjdontkno:
 

Juke

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Good point. The Ottomans were getting especially degenerate towards the end of their reign. The thing is that the Umayyads and Abbasids had a lot of tyrannical rulers and things like harems and also discrimination towards Non-Arabs but are still considered Caliphates as well. Either way, to hell with Al Saud :mjdontkno:
Ottomans were always fucked. During periods of succession the soon to be Sultan would have to exterminate his brothers. How can anyone follow a person like that? Ottomans were just a new dynasty of the Byzantine (Roman) empire that happened to be Muslim, they weren't the successors to Mohamed's authority.
 
Ottomans were always fucked. During periods of succession the soon to be Sultan would have to exterminate his brothers. How can anyone follow a person like that? Ottomans were just a new dynasty of the Byzantine (Roman) empire that happened to be Muslim, they weren't the successors to Mohamed's authority.

Not only his brother but his nephews too. A newborn baby wouldn't even be spared.
 
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