TheHollisticman gets attacked by femcel xalimos

[Blackpool]

I asked you to re-write what you wrote and then you resort to attacks. That is emotional behavior. Having an issue with a man that talks about women being married over 30+ and divorced women ect doesn't mean I have issues with Somali men.

Are all Somali men on tiktok talking rubbish? No,

I have seen at least 4 of this videos and my views are not based on this video alone.

He didn't even make fun of them he gave them advice
Also you're twisiting advise trying to say he said bad stuff about unmarried women who were divorced when he never he was telling women to stop going crazy when he wants a 2nd or 3rd wife and she is nto divorced or something
He makes videos advising men and women what is wrong?
You are twisting his words and making him seem mysognist
GIve me one exact quote of what he said that was wrong or a video that was wrong

 

[Angelina]

This woman @Angelina has a problem with Somali men, it's a personal grudge

Illogical and emotional. Not one comment on this thread generalised Somali men. We're talking about 1 man and that man doesn't represent all Somali men.

She is always starting balayo and rabshad always trying to divide us
This nigga holistic ain't even say nothing wrong they always twist his words and turn it into balayo

I do not judge people simply based on one snippet. I've watched 4 videos. How many of his videos have you watched?

And when that doesn't work they do personal attacks on his personal life
The comments are cancerous
People should actually listen to his content from a non biased

When you talk about divorced people when you're divorced yourself people will think such info is irrelevant.

Its like a fat man talking about another fat man. Of course, you'll scratch your head.

 

[Blackpool]

Illogical and emotional. Not one comment on this thread generalised Somali men. We're talking about 1 man and that man doesn't represent all Somali men.



I do not judge people simply based on one snippet. I've watched 4 videos. How many of his videos have you watched?

When you talk about divorced people when you're divorced yourself people will think such info is irrelevant.

Its like a fat man talking about another fat man. Of course, you'll scratch your head.

I've watched many videos and he gives advise to men and women
As for him speaking of unmarried women, how do you know who he married? Do you know what they divorced for? Do you know what the women he was with was like?
All this you don't know but you assume he was the bad one,
Also something which shows that he wasn't a f*ck up in the relationship is the fact he is taking care of the kids, and we know in the majority of divorces the woman takes the kid unless she's a crack head

 

[Angelina]

I've watched many videos and he gives advise to men and women
As for him speaking of unmarried women, how do you know who he married? Do you know what they divorced for? Do you know what the women he was with was like?

The woman could very well have been the issue, but what is sad, is that he doesn't advocate for divorced women to be given the same grace you are now giving him.

A divorced woman could have easily have been the mistreated party in the relationship, but according to him, they should be avoided.

All this you don't know but you assume he was the bad one,

I never actually assumed he was the bad one. But be honest with yourself, if a divorced woman advised women to try and avoid divorced men, what would you think?

Also something which shows that he wasn't a f*ck up in the relationship is the fact he is taking care of the kids, and we know in the majority of divorces the woman takes the kid unless she's a crack head

Taking care of the kids is very basic. Really goes to show how low our standards of men are in society. Also, a person can be a great wife/husband and terrible partner. The vast majority of single mothers love their kids, but I can imagine some may have been awful wives. Ask yourself, would you assume a woman that looks after her child was automatically a great wife? So why such low standards for him?

 

[Blackpool]

The woman could very well have been the issue, but what is sad, is that he doesn't advocate for divorced women to be given the same grace you are now giving him.

A divorced woman could have easily have been the mistreated party in the relationship, but according to him, they should be avoided.

I never actually assumed he was the bad one. But be honest with yourself, if a divorced woman advised women to try and avoid divorced men, what would you think?

Taking care of the kids is very basic. Really goes to show how low our standards of men are in society. Also, a person can be a great wife/husband and terrible partner. The vast majority of single mothers love their kids, but I can imagine some may have been awful wives. Ask yourself, would you assume a woman that looks after her child was automatically a great wife? So why such low standards for him?

What do you mean doesn't advocate for divorced women? The video was saying that women shouldn't be getting angry at men who want to mary women who are not divorced as more wives and they shouldn't be saying it is obligated in the deen you marry a divorced women an that they can marry who they wish as it is optional.
Yes, they could have been mistreated and he knows this, but the point of the video was to show the women who keep getting angry at men who want more wives and telling them their next wife must be divorced.
You say that he should advocate for divorced women, why not divorced men like him? He wasn't biased the video had a point and he never bashed divorced women.

He never said "Avoid divorced women" He was advising men not to listen to these random women making random rules up as to who they can marry

You say taking care of the kids is very basic and there are expectations, but in this day and age women will get into divorce and most of the time take the kids no matter the situation of the man whether it is good or bad they will take custody
This implies that the women he was with must've been a crack head for her not to take custody of the kids. 90% Of the time it's the women that has the kids
And anyway we don't even know what happened so there's no point in randomly bringing it up
Stop twisting his words, I am asking for a clear quote/video of him saying anything wrong

 

[Kreeper]

It isn’t biological because if it was, single mothers wouldn’t be getting married all the time and you wouldn’t need sexist men telling you lot not to marry them. Men would be avoiding them without having the need to constantly talk about them.

Culturally, especially back home, marrying divorced women is normal. Somali men’s issues with divorced women is definitely a new phenomenon that is influenced by other Muslim groups and redpill.

Older generation of Somali men are simps that’s why they have no issues marrying divorcees but look at the the divorced Somali women in their mid 20s in the west. No man is marrying them except maybe a divorced ajnabi

 

[Bundasliga]

Older generation of Somali men are simps that’s why they have no issues marrying divorcees but look at the the divorced Somali women in their mid 20s in the west. No man is marrying them except maybe a divorced ajnabi

Don't come for the based chad adeers ,they practised polygamy & had 10+ kids

 

[Calaami]

Young xalimos often have me scratching my head. They celebrate drug dealing, scamming faraaxs by keeping them company but are triggered by successful faraaxs speaking to them honestly.

 

[Angelina]

Older generation of Somali men are simps that’s why they have no issues marrying divorcees but look at the the divorced Somali women in their mid 20s in the west. No man is marrying them except maybe a divorced ajnabi

Why wouldn't a divorced man go for them? Do divorced men deserve better than divorced women? Its sexism and hatefulness like that which is I find baffling.

Btw, divorced women get married all the time, calling men simps isn't going to change that.

Oh and btw, the Prophet s.a w along with several Saxabas married divorced women. Don't insult people that are 10x the man you are.

 

[Journey.]

We picking and choosing eh? No worries, the field is bountiful for the picking:

"Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah:
While we were returning from a Ghazwa (Holy Battle) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast, as it was a lazy camel A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet (ﷺ) himself. He said, 'What makes you in such a hurry?" I replied, I am newly married " He said, "Did you marry a virgin or a matron? I replied, "A matron." He said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you may play with her and she with you?" When we were about to enter (Medina), the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Wait so that you may enter (Medina) at night so that the lady of unkempt hair may comb her hair and the one whose husband has been absent may shave her pubic region."

Sahih al-Bukhari 5079

My post was actually addressing the calamitous trend of young (I assume) Muslim men looking up to non-muslim, jaahil men and taking advice from them on masculinity, how to treat women, marriage related advice etc., instead of following the example and lead of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم (???). How strange and tragic. And yes, he married divorcees and widows who then became the Mothers of the Believers! So it's bizzare that a Muslim can even entertain the idea that such women are "low-value" or "last-resort".

As for the hadith you quoted, Jaabir bin Abdullah رضي الله عنهما was a young man and this was his first marriage. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم asked him why he didn't marry a young woman who never married before like himself. So the hadith is within this context. It's not discouraged to marry older/previously married women in Islam.

 

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[Somaliwadani123]

Older generation of Somali men are simps that’s why they have no issues marrying divorcees but look at the the divorced Somali women in their mid 20s in the west. No man is marrying them except maybe a divorced ajnabi

Nah they ain't simps......... they just understood the cards in their hands..... they come from a country where you marry to survive. Alot of them got married to older women when they were younger as to be taken care of while they build their futures, why you think these 50 year olds are going back home and getting married to younger women now.....its cause they built themselves up and now get to CHOOSE who they want. But us we were blessed by already being in a better position, alot of our dads be tellin us to focus on school while they take care of us so that when we build ourselves up we can marry who WE WANT, that's why you see our generation moving different. I dont know why girls think it's a culture thing cause me and my peers were told by our fathers we dont need to make desperate decisions like they did cause they already put us in a better position to start from in life

 

[Angelina]

Nah they ain't simps......... they just understood the cards in their hands..... they come from a country where you marry to survive. Alot of them got married to older women when they were younger as to be taken care of while they build their futures, why you think these 50 year olds are going back home and getting married to younger women now.....its cause they built themselves up and now get to CHOOSE who they want. But us we were blessed by already being in a better position, alot of our dads be tellin us to focus on school while they take care of us so that when we build ourselves up we can marry who WE WANT, that's why you see our generation moving different. I dont know why girls think it's a culture thing cause me and my peers were told by our fathers we dont need to make desperate decisions like they did cause they already put us in a better position to start from in life

The average Somali man of the older generation is married to a wife that is at least 7- 10 years younger. Somali society is also patriarchal, women do not 'take' care of men. The older generation of habayars did not work, so what on earth are you talking about?

Single motherhood isn't synonymous with being older. Women married in their teens and it was normal to see a woman in her prime at 21 divorced with a child already. In fact the age gap between modern Western Somali men and women is closer than our parents generation.

I'm sorry what you wrote isn't factual whatsoever and is a wild take. That 50 yr old man that is marrying again, is usually married to a 1st wife that is 5- 10 years younger.

You've flipped the gender roles and made a truly bizarre take. Unbelievable.

 

[TekNiKo]

Mashallah he is right there are sisters 30+ who genuinely tried to get married, they have no blame. He is right a feminist “career “ woman and religious Muslimah who simply couldnt get her calaf are not the same

 

[Somaliwadani123]

The average Somali man of the older generation is married to a wife that is at least 7- 10 years younger. Somali society is also patriarchal, women do not 'take' care of men. The older generation of habayars did not work, so what on earth are you talking about?

Single motherhood isn't synonymous with being older. Women married in their teens and it was normal to see a woman in her prime at 21 divorced with a child already. In fact the age gap between modern Western Somali men and women is closer than our parents generation.

I'm sorry what you wrote isn't factual whatsoever and is a wild take. That 50 yr old man that is marrying again, is usually married to a 1st wife that is 5- 10 years younger.

You've flipped the gender roles and made a truly bizarre take. Unbelievable.

How could my take be wild, if it's what happened. I'm not talking about somalis back home, I am talking about the men that came to the west in the 90s with nothing. The western governments (except for usa) had all the wellfair checks going into the hands of the women in the 90s and other than factory work there wasn't much going on when it came to job opportunities. Alot of older men have said that the women were paying alot of the Bill's (with the funds allocated from the government) while the men where in school or just fadi kudirring. Regardless the first wave of men to hit the west mostly married women that they could get a benefit from, while building themselves, it's why it was mostly the first wave to also go back home and get more wives. Somali kids know for the most part come from intact families compared to the kids born in the early to mid 90s. Also I dont know why your lieing.........the part where you said it was normal for girls to be divorced back home is not true I seen the opposite in somalia........women divorced back home were treated as if they brought immense shame to their family......have u ever even been to somali