Sadly i think a major factor might be most are just easily misled and maybe even naive. He knew about her age and if she was young, it doesnt explicitly state in the video, he could also take advantage of that.
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From what I understood she was in her late 20’s.
Most women these days get married in their late 20s now. No man unless delusional is going to think he’s doing a 27 yr old a favor by marrying her simply because a modern 27 yr old doesn’t feel old nor easily manipulated in feeling this way. If she was ‘older’ probably mid to late 30s.
Would you say that marrying and how your age has an impact on it, is the same for men and women?
Are you saying a late 20’s women has the same SMV as a young lady in her early 20’s?
It doesn’t matter since most women now get married in their late 20s. Due to people’s Peter Pan syndrome, a woman getting married at 21 isn’t as common anymore and when they do, they marry men who are of a similar age. Even if men in their late 20s and early 30s prefer 21 yr olds (which many probably do), they’re not gaining access to them since age gap relationships simply aren’t common as much any more.
Thats probably why redpillers get angry seeing the new trend of women in their early 20s calling late twenties early 30s men ‘uncles’. A 21 yr olds so called higher SMV means nothing if most men marrying in their late 20s and early 30s aren’t even seen as an option by the average 21 yr old. Hence the idea of a 27 yr olds shrugging and having low SMV value is definitely an internet thing.
Let me tell you something that will blow your mind that you’ll disagree with that also ties into this and is an example of how backwards redpill is when it comes to real life trends. Educated women in the West, actually marry at a higher rate than uneducated women. I can provide the statistics if you want. Redpill will say the opposite ect. They’ll say the 21 yr olds who doesn’t have a degree and just stays home is much more likely to be married and has a higher value mate. Not in this economy, since rich men don’t like to shop in the ghetto and if you’re at home unemployed and not in education, you won’t see people. SMV means nothing if it doesn’t translate to real life results. Redpillers are unable to understand the reality on the ground and how many factors impact SMV and actual trends.
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@Kane
Another major issue redpillers have is not understanding women enough or even social and historical realities. I’ll unpack.
Women actually don’t like huge gaps on average unless there is a big pay off like the women being in poverty herself or if the man is making big bucks or the man is very good looking. Redpillers rely on these extremes that don’t relate to the average individual.
Men’s ages has a huge impact on when women marry, for example, in 1970, the average woman married at 20. But guess what age the men married? At 23! Now that the average man marries at 30, the average woman marries at 28.
Redpilled men are very dumb. They want to exist in a world in which the average man delays marriage until his 30s due to modern notions like ‘finding himself’ ’building confidence’ and ‘gaining sexual experience’ but gets with 20 yr olds.
That doesn’t even happen in Somalia in which 15 yr age gaps are normal because even in Somalia, the average age of a man’s first marriage is in fact early 20s. It’s just that widowed, divorced and polygamous men can marry much younger women later on due to the economic constraints of society, but usually these men’s first marriages are when they’re young.
Another major issue redpillers have is not understanding women enough or even social and historical realities. I’ll unpack.
Women actually don’t like huge gaps on average unless there is a big pay off like the women being in poverty herself or if the man is making big bucks or the man is very good looking. Redpillers rely on these extremes that don’t relate to the average individual.
Men’s ages has a huge impact on when women marry, for example, in 1970, the average woman married at 20. But guess what age the men married? At 23! Now that the average man marries at 30, the average woman marries at 28.
Redpilled men are very dumb. They want to exist in a world in which the average man delays marriage until his 30s due to modern notions like ‘finding himself’ ’building confidence’ and ‘gaining sexual experience’ but gets with 20 yr olds.
That doesn’t even happen in Somalia in which 15 yr age gaps are normal because even in Somalia, the average age of a man’s first marriage is in fact early 20s. It’s just that widowed, divorced and polygamous men can marry much younger women later on due to the economic constraints of society, but usually these men’s first marriages are when they’re young.
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Western women sleep around in their early year and then settle for a simp when their SMV tanks.
So your stats are based on hot air.
I have noticed most women include you are experts in only two types of men f boys and simps. And all your criticisms are addressing only these two groups, so many times i find myself being unfairly labeled by women like you out of sheer ignorance.
Plus people like you don’t even know what the red pill philosophy is or what it’s true practitioners believe. You just heard some goof ball say it out loud on a YouTube video and your an expert all of a sudden.
Since you love name dropping the red pill I dare you to tell us what the philosophy is based on and what it’s objectives are?
“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” mark twain.
This stat probably compared uneducated lower class poor people in the inner cities to well of upper medium class people from the suburbs.
Even if your bs stats were true guess what, the divorce rates of educated women is a whopping 90%. You know why Angie?
Because educated women put their freedom and happiness above family and sacrifice. They only marry when the streets retire them for the newer better models, that’s when they find the poor sucker who didn’t have a chance with them in college, but now all of sudden gets them at a premium, when the jocks in college and high school had them for free in their prime.
SMV isn’t tanking since most men are also marrying women only a few years younger. Let me use your own terminology, even so called high value men are marrying women who are over 25 if they’re 28+. If we look at the professionals with above average incomes, they’re not marrying 21 yr olds. That’s a point you’re not taking into account.
You will be hard pressed to find a doctor or professional man at 30 marry a 21 yr old. Simply not common in the West, hence the whole thing of women sleeping around isn’t the point here. If we look at the upper classes, they’re relationships you’ll see I’m right.
The average age of marriage has increased for both men and women.
In 1970: 20 for women and 23 for men.
In 2024: 28.5 for women and 30 for men.
Kane, you’re an adult let’s have a logical adult conversation. We are talking about averages. I’m not talking about F boys or simps. I’m talking national averages. When you talk this way you make your self sound very dim.
They sound like you, and right now you don’t sound too intelligent. You can’t even fathom we’re talking about the average and all you’re stuck on is simp vs Fboy like a teenage boy.
Their objective sounds silly like you. It’s an objective based on emotions and its hilarious to behold. Look at your silly rant now
It looked at educated people vs uneducated people in general nationally, so now what? What’s the point here?
It’s not BS it’s true. You’re allowing your emotions to get in the way. You’re so caught up with your ideology that you can’t even accept facts anymore. That’s why redpill is scary. It makes men dim. Step back and reflect.
Btw the divorce rate of an educated woman being 90% is a lie. It’s so funny I’m crying with laughter now.
Point 1: Uneducated working class women have the highest rates of divorce actually. Filing for divorce more and having higher rates of divorce is different btw. Thats how redpill influencers get you. They can’t even show the full picture.
What is a fact you can research is this, whilst an educated woman is more likely to file the paper works, a working class uneducated woman is simply more likely to divorce overall since divorce isn’t just based on women filing. It also includes husband filing and both parties filing and going their separate ways and the Stats show they’re more likely to be divorced and more likely to be single mothers.
Point 3: Since we’ve established that educated women are not only more likely to marry, they’re less likely to divorce, let’s talk about why they’re more likely to intimate when they divorce. That’s the key point here that Redpillers don’t teach you. It’s not that educated women divorce more, it’s basically when divorce happens it’s them that file more despite having lower divorce rates. Are you following? It’s this key concept that redpillers use to deceive you which should tell you they have an agenda.
The fact that women with more resources are more likely to divorce shouldn’t be a shocker. If you’re in a bad, sad or abusive marriage and have the money to leave why would you stay? What makes you think a poor woman who stays with a cheater or a foolish man does so out of loyalty? It’s pathetic points like this that makes me laugh and whilst you accuse of me of not understanding men or redpill you don’t understand women or reality.
The sad facts are this. Poor women who get divorced, end up in poverty, hence it makes sense why a poor woman would stay in unsavory conditions. It has nothing to do with loyalty or ideology and everything to do with survival. The same way as a man, you’d stay in a dead end job with an abusive boss if you were living paycheck to paycheck. Does that mean you’re loyal? Does that mean you love your job? Of course not. Let look at the data:
Point 2: Another point I have to add is this Kane: Promiscuity is a lot higher in lower educated and low IQ people of BOTH genders so saying that higher educated women sleep about more so than poorer uneducated women is a joke. Poorer uneducated women are overwhelmingly more likely to be out of wedlock single
Btw, you’re smarter than this Kane but it’s sad that you’re throwing around incel ideology with 0 backing or facts. It makes you sound emotional. Also, you sound childish. I’ve bolded the parts of your argument that made me laugh
. Very clown like arguments. All of this talks of jocks and highschool school. How old are you again?
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