The growth of villages into towns in Southern & Western Togdheer (border areas)

[Bohol]

Unlike in the far east where towns grow slowly in Togdheer specially in the border areas villages
grow into towns fast due to inward immigration from the Haud/Ethiopia.

@Saalax Bidaar @Madaxkuti @ethan bradberry @Hemaal


Gudubi (2017 imagery date) - settled by Ugaadh Cumar

Mulaaxo (2017) - settled by Bah Dhulbahante

Daba-Goroyaale (2017 imagery) - settled by Isaxaaq, Ugaadh Cumar and some CG

Xaaji Saalax (2017 imagery) - settled by Cali Siciid

Yucub Yabooh (2016 imagery) -settled by Musa Carre

Ceel Bilcile (2016 imagery) - settled by Musa Carre

 

[Bohol]

Mulaaxo and Gudubi are some impressive growths.



Where those areas are located on the map.

 

[Bohol]

Oodweyne has some nice city planning like Ceerigaabo.


2017 imagery date

 

[jugjugwacwac]

It's crazy how the demographics of the haud have changed over the decades. Less than a century ago the Habar Yoonis lived as far as Wardheer and formed the only border Isaaqs had with the Majeerteen and Mareexaan. Now I doubt if the Habar Yoonis camels even graze as far as Dannood. So many Isaaqs have left the haud for Somaliland.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

It's crazy how the demographics of the haud have changed over the decades. Less than a century ago the Habar Yoonis lived as far as Wardheer and formed the only border Isaaqs had with the Majeerteen and Mareexaan. Now I doubt if the Habar Yoonis camels even graze as far as Dannood. So many Isaaqs have left the haud for Somaliland.

Actually that is not true. My family now reside in Marsin qal qalooc. The Haud is grazing zone and people move freely.

The only thing that has changed is the Liyu police presence in the area.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Actually that is not true. My family now reside in Marsin qal qalooc. The Haud is grazing zone and people move freely.

The only thing that has changed is the Liyu police presence in the area.

Are you talking about the Marsin that isn't too far from Gaashaamo or another one?

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Are you talking about the Marsin that isn't too far from Gaashaamo or another one?

Marsin is not anywhere near Gaashamo bruh. Are you ok? Lol

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Marsin is not anywhere near Gaashamo bruh. Are you ok? Lol

My bad, I was thinking Moholin, I confused the two. So where is Marsin qalqalooc?

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Actually that is not true. My family now reside in Marsin qal qalooc. The Haud is grazing zone and people move freely.

The only thing that has changed is the Liyu police presence in the area.

Marsin Qalqalooc is where Reer Bicidyahan, Mikahil and Dhulbahante meet. Isaaq could graze there of course, but it is not a settlement of theirs.

The territorial border in Hawd is today the border between Warder and Degehbur zones, it corresponds almost perfectly to it.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Marsin Qalqalooc is where Reer Bicidyahan, Mikahil and Dhulbahante meet. Isaaq could graze there of course, but it is not a settlement of theirs.

The territorial border in Hawd is today the border between Warder and Degehbur zones, it corresponds almost perfectly to it.

I spent two years of my life in Marsin/Gambise. I have never heard of Dhulbahante or MJ’s in the area. I saw lots of Ogaden, Gaadsan and HY but that is about it.

Hartis can be found in Gobolka Wardheer, whilst Marsin is in Gobolka Koraxay.

And when you see they “can graze” is if you we neeed a permission from you.

Habar Yonis were the dominate tribe in Hawd much more so than any Dhulbahante, MJ or Ogaden.

Thanks to Liyu polis for shifting the balance of power in OG favor.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

My bad, I was thinking Moholin, I confused the two. So where is Marsin qalqalooc?

Marsin is in gobolka Korahay/Qoraxay whilst Gaashamo is in Gobolka Jarar

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Unlike in the far east where towns grow slowly in Togdheer specially in the border areas villages
grow into towns fast due to inward immigration from the Haud/Ethiopia.

@Saalax Bidaar @Madaxkuti @ethan bradberry @Hemaal


Gudubi (2017 imagery date) - settled by Ugaadh Cumar
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Mulaaxo (2017) - settled by Bah Dhulbahante
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Daba-Goroyaale (2017 imagery) - settled by Isaxaaq, Ugaadh Cumar and some CG
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Xaaji Saalax (2017 imagery) - settled by Cali Siciid
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Yucub Yabooh (2016 imagery) -settled by Musa Carre
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Ceel Bilcile (2016 imagery) - settled by Musa Carre
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Looks nice.

Western HY

 

[Bohol]

It's crazy how the demographics of the haud have changed over the decades. Less than a century ago the Habar Yoonis lived as far as Wardheer and formed the only border Isaaqs had with the Majeerteen and Mareexaan. Now I doubt if the Habar Yoonis camels even graze as far as Dannood. So many Isaaqs have left the haud for Somaliland.

Our people are becoming less nomads more settled urban people.

Reer Caynaanshe have turned Misrak Gashamo into a city.


2017 imagery date.

 

[Bohol]

I spent two years of my life in Marsin/Gambise. I have never heard of Dhulbahante or MJ’s in the area. I saw lots of Ogaden, Gaadsan and HY but that is about it.

Hartis can be found in Gobolka Wardheer, whilst Marsin is in Gobolka Koraxay.

And when you see they “can graze” is if you we neeed a permission from you.

Habar Yonis were the dominate tribe in Hawd much more so than any Dhulbahante, MJ or Ogaden.

Thanks to Liyu polis for shifting the balance of power in OG favor.

That is true a lot of Dhulos immigrated to Sool @shanqale can confirm same goes for MJ that immigrated to Puntland.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I spent two years of my life in Marsin/Gambise. I have never heard of Dhulbahante or MJ’s in the area. I saw lots of Ogaden, Gaadsan and HY but that is about it.

Hartis can be found in Gobolka Wardheer, whilst Marsin is in Gobolka Koraxay.

And when you see they “can graze” is if you we neeed a permission from you.

Habar Yonis were the dominate tribe in Hawd much more so than any Dhulbahante, MJ or Ogaden.

Thanks to Liyu polis for shifting the balance of power in OG favor.

Marsin Qalqalooc is in Wardheer close to Daratoole and Qaloocan. I don't think you know what you are talking about.

There is a Reer Abdille town called
Marsin in Qorahay close to Nusdariiq, Abdi Iley's home town.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Marsin Qalqalooc is in Wardheer close to Daratoole and Qaloocan. I don't think you know what you are talking about.

There is a Reer Abdille town called
Marsin in Qorahay close to Nusdariiq, Abdi Iley's home town.

There be must be two marsins then. The one I am talking about is Abdi Ileys supposed birth place. And it is not close to Nustarik. It is further East, while Nustarik is in more Southwest.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Abdi Iley's Marsin is right next to Nusdariiq, and it is a Reer Abdille town with some Gaadsan.
The furthest south Isaaq go nowadays is Boodadheere where they border Dhulbahante, and that is in Degahbur zone. There are no Isaaq settlements in Warder or Korahay. You graze there like how Hawiye graze in Galadi.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

Abdi Iley's Marsin is right next to Nusdariiq, and it is a Reer Abdille town with some Gaadsan.
The furthest south Isaaq go nowadays is Boodadheere where they border Dhulbahante, and that is in Degahbur zone. There are no Isaaq settlements in Warder or Korahay. You graze there like how Hawiye graze in Galadi.

Marsin is HY/Ogaden degaan. I have lived there myself. How are you gonna tell me we don’t live there when I and my entire family where there. In fact in 94/95, the entire town was pretty much all HY. Marsin has lots of ponds that we use to swim in. Some nice memories there

The Hawd is a grazing area. I remember when I went with my uncles, our camels would roam freely wherever. We would occasionally come across other clan camels like Ogaden, but mostly other HY camels.

90% of the population are Nomadic. There is very little settlements in the area. Just wide open country for camels to roam.

Ps. Nice find on the map. It is cool to see places I went to on a map.

 

[Bohol]

@Saalax Bidaar is correct. I don't know why anyone would be surprised there is HY in Marsin when not far away to the south El- Bahay is a Reer Sugule town.

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

@Saalax Bidaar is correct. I don't know why anyone would be surprised there is HY in Marsin when not far away to the south El- Bahay is a Reer Sugule town.


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Ali Jamac also is a Muse ismail(Rer Cawl) settlements.

Pay no attention to folks who post stuff here. I been to and lived in the area and I know first hand.

Insha Allah i will pay a visit there some day in near future.