The foriegn involvment in Somalia and the extension of thr Civil war

Khaem

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Yeah that would be Ethiopia, but America tried to HELP us.
America is the reason Ethiopia invaded Somalia in 2006. It was in both their mutual interest to overthrow the ICU government rapidly forming in Somalia but Ethiopia couldn't do shit about it without the United States.

Don't forget what these Gaal did in Somalia then reply with some Bullshit like "hurr durr ziad barre n shiet it's our fault"

These are canadian soldiers in Somalia 1993.
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The ICU was a rapidly forming government that controlled central and southern Somalia and was overthrown in it's infancy during the US. Backed Ethiopian invasion in 2006 and continued occupation until 2009.

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Warlords were driven out of Xamar by the ICU government led by Shikh Hassan Dahur Aweys and other leaders of the ICU who then governed by Islamic law.

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The ICU government made nationalist statements hinting at the longterm desire of a unified Somaliweyn as well as a desire for it to be unified under an Islamic state. This terrified neighbouring states that occupied Somali territory such as Kenya and importantly Ethiopia who felt threatened by the emergance of the ICU in 2006.

The United nations Arms embargo was also bypassed and weapons flowed into Somalia to arm the ICU government from 7 countries: Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia and Syria.

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The American Support of Warlords in Somalia proves my point that the Somali civil war was funded and armed by foreign states like America who would "accidentally" lose military equipment right in the middle of a Warlords territory.

This obvious fact to people in Somalia of foriegn involvement only increased native support of the ICU government.

In just 4 months the ICU was in control of the 7 of the 10 regions in South-Central Somalia.

I will continue this later on but if you want to read more here's a pdf
 

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America is the reason Ethiopia invaded Somalia in 2006. It was in both their mutual interest to overthrow the ICU government rapidly forming in Somalia but Ethiopia couldn't do shit about it without the United States.

Don't forget what these Gaal did in Somalia then reply with some Bullshit like "hurr durr ziad barre n shiet it's our fault"

These are canadian soldiers in Somalia 1993.
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The ICU was a rapidly forming government that controlled central and southern Somalia and was overthrown in it's infancy during the US. Backed Ethiopian invasion in 2006 and continued occupation until 2009.

View attachment 318909

Warlords were driven out of Xamar by the ICU government led by Shikh Hassan Dahur Aweys and other leaders of the ICU who then governed by Islamic law.

View attachment 318912

The ICU government made nationalist statements hinting at the longterm desire of a unified Somaliweyn as well as a desire for it to be unified under an Islamic state. This terrified neighbouring states that occupied Somali territory such as Kenya and importantly Ethiopia who felt threatened by the emergance of the ICU in 2006.

The United nations Arms embargo was also bypassed and weapons flowed into Somalia to arm the ICU government from 7 countries: Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia and Syria.

View attachment 318913

The American Support of Warlords in Somalia proves my point that the Somali civil war was funded and armed by foreign states like America who would "accidentally" lose military equipment right in the middle of a Warlords territory.

This obvious fact to people in Somalia of foriegn involvement only increased native support of the ICU government.

In just 4 months the ICU was in control of the 7 of the 10 regions in South-Central Somalia.

I will continue this later on but if you want to read more here's a pdf
Hmm you are right but in times like these it's better to be a friend of America and not a foe. You saw what happened in iraq which was worse 10 fold.
 

Khaem

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Hmm you are right but in times like these it's better to be a friend of America and not a foe. You saw what happened in iraq which was worse 10 fold.
Iraq got jumped by the entire US bloc. This is something that cannot happen again in this increasingly multi-polar world. Somalis should focus on restoring a government similar to the icu that first secures all or Somalia under a stable Islamic government that is not run on qabil. As well as the removal of all foriegn militaries in the country.

Once this is sorted, the rebuilding process of Somalia should begin along with the flow of weapons to arm the state in the face of an aggressive Ethiopia. We should set up another West Somalia liberation front and provide Arms to them. Gather foriegn investments etc. I could write a whole essay on this.
 

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Iraq got jumped by the entire US bloc. This is something that cannot happen again in this increasingly multi-polar world. Somalis should focus on restoring a government similar to the icu that first secures all or Somalia under a stable Islamic government that is not run on qabil. As well as the removal of all foriegn militaries in the country.

Once this is sorted, the rebuilding process of Somalia should begin along with the flow of weapons to arm the state in the face of an aggressive Ethiopia. We should set up another West Somalia liberation front and provide Arms to them. Gather foriegn investments etc. I could write a whole essay on this.
I just feel the government should be very democratic, and we can allow some foreign bases we TRUST to stay during recovery and just focus on economic development with military on the side and I also just ensure the government is not that extremist islamically.
 
I just feel the government should be very democratic, and we can allow some foreign bases we TRUST to stay during recovery and just focus on economic development with military on the side and I also just ensure the government is not that extremist islamically.
Democracy and Somalia are two opposing lines. If there is any hope for the country, it is with the monarchy. Siad Barre was close to that, and as for anything else, I don't think it will lead to results.
 
what Somali would say โ€œAmerica tried to help usโ€? Everyone knows why the Koonfur was in disorder for decades, America murdered the nabadoons who could have brought peace.

Bush I involved himself in Somalias affairs purely for PR. Had he wanted to be effective he would have done what worked twice, a Somali version of the Dayton or Atlanta accords.
 

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Democracy and Somalia are two opposing lines. If there is any hope for the country, it is with the monarchy. Siad Barre was close to that, and as for anything else, I don't think it will lead to results.
Too late for a monarchy only hope is a PROPER federal democratic parliamentary Republic a system kind of similar to Switzerland since it is one of the most compatible systems for us.
 

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Continued subservience to America is crazy. These people are the worst, threatening us with restrictions on aid and economic sanctions. America will persist as a military-dominating state, continuing to exert influence in the Middle East. Anyone displaying even a hint of initiating an Islamic government and strengthening the army against the liberal Western view will face opposition from the entire world. However, it is Allah who rightfully deserves more fear. It is Him who has full authority and gives dominion to whomever He wishes and takes it from whomever He wishes.

The Prophet (๏ทบ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (๏ทบ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death.

Sunan Abi Dawud 4297
 

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America is the reason Ethiopia invaded Somalia in 2006. It was in both their mutual interest to overthrow the ICU government rapidly forming in Somalia but Ethiopia couldn't do shit about it without the United States.

Don't forget what these Gaal did in Somalia then reply with some Bullshit like "hurr durr ziad barre n shiet it's our fault"

These are canadian soldiers in Somalia 1993.
View attachment 318907View attachment 318908

The ICU was a rapidly forming government that controlled central and southern Somalia and was overthrown in it's infancy during the US. Backed Ethiopian invasion in 2006 and continued occupation until 2009.

View attachment 318909

Warlords were driven out of Xamar by the ICU government led by Shikh Hassan Dahur Aweys and other leaders of the ICU who then governed by Islamic law.

View attachment 318912

The ICU government made nationalist statements hinting at the longterm desire of a unified Somaliweyn as well as a desire for it to be unified under an Islamic state. This terrified neighbouring states that occupied Somali territory such as Kenya and importantly Ethiopia who felt threatened by the emergance of the ICU in 2006.

The United nations Arms embargo was also bypassed and weapons flowed into Somalia to arm the ICU government from 7 countries: Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia and Syria.

View attachment 318913

The American Support of Warlords in Somalia proves my point that the Somali civil war was funded and armed by foreign states like America who would "accidentally" lose military equipment right in the middle of a Warlords territory.

This obvious fact to people in Somalia of foriegn involvement only increased native support of the ICU government.

In just 4 months the ICU was in control of the 7 of the 10 regions in South-Central Somalia.

I will continue this later on but if you want to read more here's a pdf
Do you have the links to that
 
The ICU was too diplomatically inept. They shouldnโ€™t have declared to spread sharia law all across east africa in the post 9/11 world
 

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I've noticed clans who lack a tribal history love to cover their shame under we are akhis of Islam. Islam is a Deen not politics. Quran is for all mankind not for some Islamic govt ๐Ÿ˜‚.

It's embarassing seeing wild clans with no sultanates trying to cover their nakedness in Islamic govt orphanages but U ain't fooling me with your shit, cause if you are anything then tell me what you did or your awooweyaal did if your so honorable or noble, don't come to me hiding behind faataxo ama Magan alle Begging like eelays do.

You shall never see an Islamic caliphate which ended after Ali. The rest were Islamic govts in name only not in practise as all muslims weren't united in it and therefore legally speaking was a fraudulent sultanate claiming an Islamic caliphate.

Only a Mahdi can unite Muslims not petty Muslims is what most Muslims accept as rational. Dude U can't even unite your qoys and U wanna talk about 1.5 billion people with different histories, cultures, language and only common thing about them is faith and faith isn't provable or a fact and politics is about facts and proving what U say so their no dispute not Magan alle or saying in the name of Allah believe me bruv believe me bruv I can guarantee U janno on earth if U allow me to unite muslims in a state, tell that to the young kids U fool not a grown adults like me lol.

It's sad in this day and age ppl believe politics is grounded in believe me faith or swearing on a Quran lol, nah bruv you need to prove your politics where everyone can witness it either thru observation or their intellectual reason.

I know I sure as hell ain't following some dude on believe me and my faith in Islam politics. You don't even know if your faith is accepted by Allah when U die and U want me a bah dubays to accept your faith in Islam to lead me lol, U better not come to my daaqsin in nugaal as ppl laugh at your eelay faataxo begging ass.

All I do know as fact when a man lacks honor or sharaf in his own name or identity he reverts to eelay politics begging in the name of god to be accepted by his peers, wuxu futadisa qaawan ku qariya diinta ileen sharaf kale Kuma leh aduunka but using a book that all mankind was given. That's horrible lack of confidence in your own ability or history.
 
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