I know that the test is for us. Is it for only Jinns and Mankind? Why did Allah create us for? To worship him. Why worship him? Because if you don’t you will go to hell. If you do you will go to Jannah. Isn’t that the test? That is a little bit steering off the Qadr discussion. As for the Amaanah, huh I didn’t know that it meant the test. I could have googled it but am lazy..The test is not for Allah it is for you, before you were Man Allah asked all creation if they would like to take on the amanaah which is a test, all of the creation denied it except man and jinn, the reason for this is to give man a choice on what he wants to do, Man chose to have this test.
Did Allah know that man and jinn would be the ones to chose the test? (of course he did, because he knows everything). If that’s the case how could we have “chosen” the test?The test is, do good get good, do bad get bad, Allah did this test for us, so we can chose to go jannah, but we must pay a price to get there, or if we fail then we go hell, Or we could not take the test and be free of responsibility, it was our own choice.
Allah doesn’t need to test us but he wanted to test us? Hmm I guess there might be some difference between want and need but idk. Also check what I said to the second part of your first point. I referenced the ayah in suratul Dhariyat about why we were created. As for US asking for it…wasn’t it Allah who asked us and we accepted to take the test (I hope that’s what Amaanah means) according to the ayah in suratul Ahzab?? It is somewhat different.Allah does not need to test us, Allah never said he needs to test us, Allah wanted to test us, and we are the ones who asked for it, if we didn't Allah wouldn't have tested us.
There is so many things wrong here and I will keep repeating my points if I respond here so I hope the other points I made gives you reasons why I would disagree with your point there.If Allah forced us not to take the test because he already knew the results, than that would be infringing on our free will to chose what we want, and that would be unfair, it would be the same as stopping someone from enacting his free will and chance to do something because I know he won't actually reach it, if this were the case it would be unfair as Allah is forcing his will on us and not allowing people to chose jannah. So it is a mercy to us
No I think he is doing it for himself too since he said he created us to worship him which is part of the test. A big part.Allah knows what will happen, why should Allah stop the test just because he knows what will happen? The hidden assumption here is that Allah is doing the test for himself, which he is not, man must go through the test as they wanted it and they asked for it and must be judged for their own decisions, it is a mercy to mankind
Whatever you say, according to islam, Allah will accept the shafa’ah and he won’t be able to do otherwise whether he wants to or not. Why? Because if he doesn’t do that, he would not only have lied but it would show us that Allah doesn’t know everything. What does Allah knowing everything have to do with Qadr? I explained in the next point.You do not understand how qadr works.
, Allah knows the actions He himself would take. Allah knows at the Day of Judgement that the prophet Muhammad would ask for شفاعة. And Allah would accept. Allah cannot refuse the prophet in the Day of judgement. So Allah is not all powerful.
Allah accepts out of his choice, he is not forced to make the choice, he knows he will make the choice, thats it, Allah could have chosen to reject the dua, it is all in his power to do what he wants, Allah can refuse the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasalam, he just chooses not to
Whether he wants to or not, he can’t change it. If he could change it then we have to stop saying he knows everything. If Allah knows he would change his action from a certain action to another at a point in time, then he can change his action from a certain action to another at a point in time. Allah won’t be able to not change his action at that point in time. If he does stop changing his action at that point in time, then that will contradict his all-knowingness.Allah chose for the qadr to be a certain way and he won't change it because he he doesn't want to