Somalis are Naturally Geniuses In Poetry and Physics

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Most somalis i met are fantastic at mathematics and poetry, we even have our gabey tradition going for centuries.I dont know why but every somali i met is either doing engineering can spin up a poem if coaxed.I believe we are actually a master race , thats why everyone is holding us down.
 

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Poetry, Philosophy, and Diplomacy is definitely in 80% of Somali genes because we are nomadic and travel and therefore see lots of differences. As the old saying goes, one who travels isn't the same as one who doesn't. Our diplomacy should be one of the highest order because we needed to get along with the differences we encountered in the past and our ancestors passed this gene onto us but we seem not to use it anymore because we were infected with colonial ideas that are still around today and just passed on.

Every idea u hear a Somali talks about today descends from the colonial era like somalinimo, democracy, and god knows what else. Just pay close attention to Somali values and trace root it where it came from, besides Islam and our unique nomadic culture, most things are still colonial structures, philosophy in Somalia today. Even how we run our government is colonial based structures, look at the government structure and order, vastly different to our nomadic structure when you go to rural badiyo among the nomads who sit under a tree.

There is essentially a clan elder who is the boss but he is elected thru nomadic mechanism which I don't know how it's done as I haven't really travelled to observe it. However the way things are selected in Somalia today is definitely colonial and we will find more problems like we did in the past when we tried the colonial system. Colonial system conflicts with our culture and structures. We are essentially free spirits and don't like someone bossing us around. That's why most drive taxis in the west and hate having managers ma garatay niyahow? it's in our blood this.

That's why I just do consultancy and contracting in my IT role now, we don't want a manager, we are own managers ma garatay? make sure u do the same in your careers somaliyay, just find roles that allow u to travel and be free regardless if it's medicine become medicine contractor ma garatay? just observe the structure and if u see management structure RUN FROM IT SOMALIYAY ITS AGAINST YOUR BLOOD OF SITTING UNDER A TREE.
 
Poetry, Philosophy, and Diplomacy is definitely in 80% of Somali genes because we are nomadic and travel and therefore see lots of differences. As the old saying goes, one who travels isn't the same as one who doesn't. Our diplomacy should be one of the highest order because we needed to get along with the differences we encountered in the past and our ancestors passed this gene onto us but we seem not to use it anymore because we were infected with colonial ideas that are still around today and just passed on.

Every idea u hear a Somali talks about today descends from the colonial era like somalinimo, democracy, and god knows what else. Just pay close attention to Somali values and trace root it where it came from, besides Islam and our unique nomadic culture, most things are still colonial structures, philosophy in Somalia today. Even how we run our government is colonial based structures, look at the government structure and order, vastly different to our nomadic structure when you go to rural badiyo among the nomads who sit under a tree.

There is essentially a clan elder who is the boss but he is elected thru nomadic mechanism which I don't know how it's done as I haven't really travelled to observe it. However the way things are selected in Somalia today is definitely colonial and we will find more problems like we did in the past when we tried the colonial system. Colonial system conflicts with our culture and structures. We are essentially free spirits and don't like someone bossing us around. That's why most drive taxis in the west and hate having managers ma garatay niyahow? it's in our blood this.

That's why I just do consultancy and contracting in my IT role now, we don't want a manager, we are own managers ma garatay? make sure u do the same in your careers somaliyay, just find roles that allow u to travel and be free regardless if it's medicine become medicine contractor ma garatay? just observe the structure and if u see management structure RUN FROM IT SOMALIYAY ITS AGAINST YOUR BLOOD OF SITTING UNDER A TREE.
Saxib i was reading an article about how memories could be transferred through genetics! If thats true it could explain alot of our fears and distrusts etc.
 

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Saxib i was reading an article about how memories could be transferred through genetics! If thats true it could explain alot of our fears and distrusts etc.

We can succeed in every field as long as the component of 'freedom' is there for us to manage ourselves in the company. You can do this through contracting, consultanting which allows you to travel from site to site like your nomadic ancestors did while being free. U flourish when your your own boss notice our success in business? we prefer our autonomy sxb and that's every somali. You will find a huge conflict when your autonomy is at stake in your job. It's not that you hate the job or whatever your passion and desires are it's u hate the structure and conflicts with autonomous genetics.
 

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I have this cousin who did accounting, he does accounting on the side as a contractor for family n friends but won't go into the industry, I suspect he prefers to keep his autonomy and manage himself and not be some little controlled by a manager. He is a security guard, notice security guard have no bosses and just left alone to do the job?

We need that element basically in each industry and passions we have, to be left alone to do the job or else just switch to business, trust me your genes listen to it, it has been passed on I believe or else why is their this similarity constantly somalis thriving in self style contracting or their own businesses?

We won't make good managers either, the nomads I studied don't manage other people as they know each nomad is free. Were contractors or consultants at HEART AND BLOOD, they have the same mode of travel and variety in work. So all u need to do is switch ur passions to contracting it or owning your own business and you will thrive niyahow as your in-line with your genetic ancestors.

Fend for yourself is the best environment for Somali similar to our nomads without interfering in other nomads so dont interfere with other employees at your work and let them work it out what their genetics are. All the occupations we love like importing/exporting, taxi, security guards, even our businesses are always sole trader we dont want staff sxb we cant manage thats why, just keep looking deeply into somali culture sxb and replicate it to the current environment you are in and find roles that have similar attributes to the job.
 
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Notice we love investments also, we invest into 'shares' also, more autonomy we don't manage the business but provide capital flow. We will make great investors also. It's key things I identified for myself anyways and is inline with my genetic history I feel. To be quite honest it doesn't get more capitalist then Somali culture, the west are not fully capitalist societies and forcing it on themselves, their nature is settled and farming and community feeling, so socialism is critical for them as it's the nature of the people, most neggers are capitalists niyahow by blood. We fend for ourselves and care for our own well being.

Be reasonable @CangeeroBear how can we dismiss all these key similarities in our lives towards our nomadic nature, we are nomads by nature and we will always find roles and jobs that suit our nature far better then jobs that don't and it's no so much the field that matters it's the 'mode' of the job that counts. So you can love medicine but u will hate it if you can't be your own boss. Somalis make good doctors and study medicine, it will align with their nature of nomad because they run their own clinics iyagu doctoryasha so go into medicine. Law also Somali will be good at you can run your own practise.

They seem to like education sector regardless if it's teaching kids or study for PHDS, cilmiga iyo hikmad way jecel yihin somalida. Notice our philosophy nature weeye taas but they will hate it sxb if they don't get a job that also allows the mode of work to be carried out thru nomadic principles(contracting, consulting, autonomous). Somalida ma aha dad oo gumeyo dad kale, waa nomads shaqo kuma lihi ninka kale bay ku oranayan in our nature. Management doesnt suit our character, waa gumeey dadka kale oo uu taliya.
 
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Our community centers in the west should start functioning properly sxb so our youth can be advised for what suits us as Somalis. And be successful in the western world, where-as now were lost among the crowd and just copying others trying to find ourselves and the outcomes well you judge for yourself is terrible for our youth.

We to busy with boys finding themselves in shabab, gangs, american and western culture and not connecting deep down, their putting on clown suits to cover the inate ability to find themselves. Arabs are conquerer type of people not cooperation type of people, wa inay qofka madaxa ka istagan, do our nomads operate like that, even bedouins don't. It's the settled arabs are like that.

We would get along with a bedouin any day of the week as Somalis over a fuckin settled arab. Uff iga dheh, ka hara nimankasi ma aha dhaqankina sidu keating yiri malin dhawayd. We use diplomacy niyahow we are great politicians I feel, because politics is about 'influencing' others thru words and we are oral based society, add two and two together you beautiful genetic aligned people to positions. It's all about words and mouth in our culture, we need roles like that for somalis where speaking and influencing is apart of the role. I feel our ancestors never warred with anyone and influenced them thru 'wisdom' and words because that's their genetics.

Look at our hands, body, its not built for war and u know it. It's built for intelligence and mind matters. If somalis want to succeed we need to do it through intelligence not thru our bodies and swords because were not built for that.
 
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Most somalis i met are fantastic at mathematics and poetry, we even have our gabey tradition going for centuries.I dont know why but every somali i met is either doing engineering can spin up a poem if coaxed.I believe we are actually a master race , thats why everyone is holding us down.
I saw incredible things when I went to Somalia.

There was this next door kid that was excited that I knew something about science/mathematics. So you know how the quadratic formula is derived from completing the square. He took out a pen and paper was like watch what I found; he derived it without the usual method of completing the square. I was looking it at it and was like man you basically discovered Galois theory. It's exactly what led to the development of Galois theory; fiddling with symmetric polynomials.

I've never seen anyone that excited about mathematics. Whenever him and his friend saw me they were like straight going into discussing maths. I taught them about Newton's identities/elementary symmetric polynomials, and stuff like that. What I've found Somalia is that these young kids really love mathematics/science but they don't have the opportunity to pursue any type of hard sciences after school, even in school there's no real quality apart from a handful of schools. But they have this insatiable hunger for knowledge! It was incredible!

Perhaps I don't many Somali students in West, but in general I don't think they are as interested in science/maths like students back home.
 

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Our education system is really shit and not aligned to our cultural appetite. We need to present teaching and education to our next generation through early schooling and ensure we work with their nomadic spirit and present subjects using our cultural experience. Right now we won't connect with western style education because it's tailored towards their cultural needs and how their people view the world. We can succeed but we lost faith in ourselves partly due to copying everyone else we see come along.
 

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Saxib i was reading an article about how memories could be transferred through genetics! If thats true it could explain alot of our fears and distrusts etc.
That's some Assassin's Creed type stuff.
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You have to post it!
 
We can succeed but we lost faith in ourselves partly due to copying everyone else we see come along.
There's no point reinventing the wheel. I know you're into this thing of redeveloping things like mathematics from scratch, but it's not practical. It's not good idea to try and reinvent 5,000 years of human knowledge for culture or bragging rights.
 

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There's no point reinventing the wheel. I know you're into this thing of redeveloping things like mathematics from scratch, but it's not practical. It's not good idea to try and reinvent 5,000 years of human knowledge for culture or bragging rights.

Mathatmatics has always been presented differently through-out different cultures and languages, the current notations they use in the west is confusing and not teachable be honest. Maths is about the real world and anyone can learn it but how it's presented is totally wrong with the western notation that is disgusting. The notations should be nomadically inspired for Somalis but the topic is the still same, it's just presented differently along our cultural appetites. How you think the Chinese do maths? they don't write in the english notation u nacas and how dare u say it's about bragging rights, it's about outcomes niyahow, we want the best mathamaticians lets teach them the best way taking into consideration their culture and their inner nature which is definitely autonomous for Somalis.
 

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@Naissur is addicted to maths waa laga soo celin la'yahay lol. Maths is just measurements of the world, it's not maths the way they write notations ax 2 and all this shit, it's speaking about a problem in the real world and they use a disgusting notation system that is confusing. You can really learn maths when u study the history of maths and see how it's all presented differently in different languages and styles. The current style is algebraic notations and disgusting and must go. AB X Y 1 TO THE POWER OF 2 AND ALL THAT SHIT WAA NONSENSE.
 
Mathatmatics has always been presented differently through-out different cultures and languages, the current notations they use in the west is confusing and not teachable be honest. Maths is about the real world and anyone can learn it but how it's presented is totally wrong with the western notation that is disgusting. The notations should be nomadically inspired for Somalis but the topic is the still same, it's just presented differently along our cultural appetites. How you think the Chinese do maths? they don't write in the english notation u nacas and how dare u say it's about bragging rights, it's about outcomes niyahow, we want the best mathamaticians lets teach them the best way taking into consideration their culture and their inner nature which is definitely autonomous for Somalis.
Calm down, Doctor. You don't have to call me 'nacas' or make multiple consecutive posts.

Give an example of notational shortcomings of mathematics, and why this is problematic.
 

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Calm down, Doctor. You don't have to call me 'nacas' or make multiple consecutive posts.

Give an example of notational shortcomings of mathematics, and why this is problematic.

Can't you teach like this. Say everything has a measure to your students. Then demonstrate it and say look at your face, eyes, nose, all different measurements. Now were going to use to apply this measurement to everything in the physical world using numbers. What sort of measurement considerations do we need to take account for the eye? the nose? Length of nose, width, area, etc. Teach like that sxb. What sort of measurement tool do we need? the white guy use those funny nose measurements on bantus. and they wrote it down in the stupid western notation.
 
Can't you teach like this. Say everything has a measure to your students. Then demonstrate it and say look at your face, eyes, nose, all different measurements. Now were going to use to apply this measurement to everything in the physical world using numbers. What sort of measurement considerations do we need to take account for the eye? the nose? Length of nose, width, area, etc. Teach like that sxb. What sort of measurement tool do we need? the white guy use those funny nose measurements on bantus. and they wrote it down in the stupid western notation.
You have to formally define these things; length, width, area. Otherwise you're not going to get anywhere.

You still haven't given me an example of the shortcomings with the current notations of mathematics. You said something about powers, but can you clearly state the example and what your problem with it is?
 
I saw incredible things when I went to Somalia.

There was this next door kid that was excited that I knew something about science/mathematics. So you know how the quadratic formula is derived from completing the square. He took out a pen and paper was like watch what I found; he derived it without the usual method of completing the square. I was looking it at it and was like man you basically discovered Galois theory. It's exactly what led to the development of Galois theory; fiddling with symmetric polynomials.

I've never seen anyone that excited about mathematics. Whenever him and his friend saw me they were like straight going into discussing maths. I taught them about Newton's identities/elementary symmetric polynomials, and stuff like that. What I've found Somalia is that these young kids really love mathematics/science but they don't have the opportunity to pursue any type of hard sciences after school, even in school there's no real quality apart from a handful of schools. But they have this insatiable hunger for knowledge! It was incredible!

Perhaps I don't many Somali students in West, but in general I don't think they are as interested in science/maths like students back home.
I think its because it has become main streamed, the general lack of struggles in the west forces diaspora to be lazy.Most of the engineers in my university of somali heritage are refugees who learned the language in a few years and struggled to reach the highest universities.

I once came upon 2 , around 14 year olds, arguing over something they drew in the sand.This was near my grandfather's house in jigjiga. Both seemed to be trying to solve an imaginary quadratic equation writing in the dirt. They most likely copied the question incorrectly yet it was interesting watching them argue over the solution. i didn't tell them the solution but did ask them to try a non "basic approach".
 
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