Somalis are mixed nation

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~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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:drakelaugh: Mixed in the Neolithic era. And you claim it today like one of your parents is 1/4 and 3/4 West Asian and the rest Nilosaharan. Don't tell me you came to this due to intellectually illeterate people asking you why you have a sharp nose and wavy hair. :mjlol: You're a Farax. Stop trying to give yourself a false sense of identity. The polynesians are historically admixed (from two or more distinct populations), so are south asians. They aren't suffering from the same dilemma.
 

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Oh for crying out loud WE WUZ ARABZ N SHIEET
NAH NIGGA!!! WE WUZ STAR-WARS JEDIS N SHIEEET!!!


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This process of mixing occurred between 3000 and 6000 BC.
Iam fully convinced by that.

U?

Here's how I see it:

There was a first migration and mixing at about 23 kya, which involved all of E1b1b. E-V-32 was added later in the area of Kush in the Sudan. E1b1b/V-32 hits the Kenya-Somali border about the beginning of the Common Era and begins moving north to join T and J. The Samaale clans begin to form in the 9th to 11th centuries. The Hawiyya migrate down the Shabelli, arriving at Merka by 1100 AD. The northern clans take control of the North only during the time of Aw Barkhadle, in the 12th-13th centuries, at which point the Darood begin a back-migration into the camel lands of the South.

T and J were almost certainly in Somalia before V-32. T is thought to have come to Africa during the Neolithic at 6-8 kya. The issue is whether or not they stopped off at the Red Sea Hills before moving south into the Horn at 3 kya.

This paper is on the earlier migration and mixing:

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1004393

"Genetic studies have identified substantial non-African admixture in the Horn of Africa (HOA). In the most recent genomic studies, this non-African ancestry has been attributed to admixture with Middle Eastern populations during the last few thousand years. However, mitochondrial and Y chromosome data are suggestive of earlier episodes of admixture. To investigate this further, we generated new genome-wide SNP data for a Yemeni population sample and merged these new data with published genome-wide genetic data from the HOA and a broad selection of surrounding populations. We used multidimensional scaling and ADMIXTURE methods in an exploratory data analysis to develop hypotheses on admixture and population structure in HOA populations. These analyses suggested that there might be distinct, differentiated African and non-African ancestries in the HOA. After partitioning the SNP data into African and non-African origin chromosome segments, we found support for a distinct African (Ethiopic) ancestry and a distinct non-African (Ethio-Somali) ancestry in HOA populations. The African Ethiopic ancestry is tightly restricted to HOA populations and likely represents an autochthonous HOA population. The non-African ancestry in the HOA, which is primarily attributed to a novel Ethio-Somali inferred ancestry component, is significantly differentiated from all neighboring non-African ancestries in North Africa, the Levant, and Arabia. The Ethio-Somali ancestry is found in all admixed HOA ethnic groups, shows little inter-individual variance within these ethnic groups, is estimated to have diverged from all other non-African ancestries by at least 23 ka, and does not carry the unique Arabian lactase persistence allele that arose about 4 ka. Taking into account published mitochondrial, Y chromosome, paleoclimate, and archaeological data, we find that the time of the Ethio-Somali back-to-Africa migration is most likely pre-agricultural."
 

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