Somalia Population Simplified

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GDP indicates where the population is in the nation. 40% is urban in Somalia by GDP indicators where 30% is services and 10% industry so that means 40% are settled. So that is only a 40% population ratio of the national Somali population. 40% are nomadic which is always consistently the same ratio of GDP. 20% is farming/coastal fishing communities, where I wud assume farming is 15% and 5% fishing. This is a fair estimate if your a man of 'intellect'.

Take into account these various measurements for each 'tribe' so you know what this is all based of and not my 'ass' like UNFPA which I will show u how they 'fudged' the numbers in later paragraphs.

PL constitutes 220, 000 SQ KM this includes Majerteniya/Makhir/Khatumo. Majerteniya alone is 150,000 SQ KM. Makhir/Khatumo 70,000 SQ KM
SL constitutes 86,000 SQ KM for Isaaq and 21,000 SQ KM for Awdal people
GM/HS constitutes 150,000 SQ KM
JL constitutes 110,000 SQ KM
SW constitutes 98,000 SQ KM

That is the total area SQ of Somalia proper by region for total of 637,000 SQ KM. So now we have this as 'data' point.

Ok let's get crunching down on 'urbanites'. We know the over-all population of Somalia is 15 million using 'garissa' as a 'template' we also can use density by 100 meter by 100 meter on settlements x area sq of each settlement, city, village. The methodology isn't changing, this is best practises and so simple for the laymen to accept as he can do it himself and see the figures are 'accurate'.

Ok so 40% of 15 million we will need to be slided away for 'urban' population. So that is a 6 million population pool. JL is roughly 15% of Somalia total land-mass, so from that 15% they are 1 million people in urban areas of JL villages/towns is what u wud expect.

PL is 30% of Somalia including makhir/khatumo, so 30% is allocated to PL, that's 2 million in villages-towns is what u wud expect.

HAGS in HS/GM are 150,000 SQ KM and that is population of 3.5 million maximum so adjusted for their Somalia urban ratio of 6 million u wud assume 25% of 6 million which gives them 1.5 million population. South-west you wud assume 15% is allocated to them also giving them 1 million share of urbanites.

So in a simple way this is how it is

PL = 2 million settled that is all 'hartis'. They will share based further on their regional share with Makhir/Khatumo constituting 70000 of that 220,000 SQ KM. Giving them 30% of Puntland population. So if the puntland ratio of settled is 2 million, makhir/dhulos are 30% of that giving them 600,000 and that's between them, while Majerten gets 1.4 million. So UNFPA is accurate but only 'settled' population, they simply never took in nomadic count as it's scary for them to swallow because it's well known they constitute 40% of the population which is another 6 million pool kkkkk and they disregarded it going against GDP facts kkkk haji engris style

JL = 15% of that 6 million so only gets 1 million. Since I am not familiar with the local dynamics like I am with PL, I will let @Jablibax deal with it since his a real 'native' there, but we know what the over-all 'urban' pool is based on JL share of the land mass, he cannot work outside that 1 million allocation for his settled population. He needs to share it between gedo/jubbayoinka and get cracking on 'area sq' measurements of gedo villages and jubbaland villages and towns. Or simply settle on land mass sharing between gedo/jubbayoinka, which is far more quicker and reasonable but I heard 'gedo' isn't all Marehan so 'assign' him their goof only and absame his kkkkk this 'tears' marehan apart in gedo loo fadhiyo laftigeeda which is 32,000 SQ KM land mass in itself

SW = I have no clue on the local dynamics here but their share of the urban population is 15% also so allocate them their 1 million and let them share between the clans who live there using a similar method as JL and PL did, I heard 'absame' has to sit here and get his share also kkkkk

HS/GM = These clans are the ones who fear a number measurement game the most, and love 4.5 clan communism. You are 25% of Somalia total land-mass, your ratio of urbanites is 25% of 6 million. Share your 1.5 million based on similar mechanism as PL/JL/SW and 'land mass' of each 'goof' since your land is very 'tribally diverse' due to langaab nature of not one clan dominating, u will need to get 'cracking' down on 'area sq' totals of villages/towns by each different clan and work out 'total area' sq of all villages/towns based on clans and then assign 1.5 million u have accordingly

SL = This another clan who has total fetish over numbers and revisionism. You are 86,000 SQ KM for Isaaq, no matter how much u wish to deny it or refer to colonial census maths is irrefutable it's the language of the world not colonial census, the maths isn't changing and Awdal is 21,0000 SQ KM. Isaaq will be assigned his fair portion of 13% of urban population of Somalia while samaroon will get his 3%. We will call this dir waqoyi portion of 15%. Your total of the urban ratio is 1 million and Isaaq is roughly 80% of that and the remainder Awdal

Now this is where UNFPA never calculated properly. They think the whole nation is 'nomadic' which incorrect. This 6 million pool is mainly pl/gm due to their 'daaqsin' being total of 150,000 SQ KM and GM being 78,000 SQ KM. Makhir/Khatumo is 70,000 SQ KM. Burco is 30,000 SQ KM, Waqoyi Galbeed/Awdal is 40,000 SQ KM combined and it's not fully pastoral there also which needs to be added into equation. Gedo is to small to compute no offense guys and won't make much of a dent in the numbers.

SO the total of real 'pasture' land is not 637,000 so it's not going to be shared nation wide and the south need to take this loss the total 'daaqsin' is around 360,000 SQ KM in total. So that 6 million is purely being shared by that land mass not the UNFPA 637,000 Land mass as it computed and hence boosting pastoral numbers down south at the expense of the real pastoral areas.

Majerten is 40% of the pastoral community with 150,000 SQ KM ratio of 360,000 SQ KM, Makhir/Khatumo are 20%. GM is 20%. HS isn't going to be counted since it's a mixed area of farmers/pastoral and requires another computation purely based on the 'daaqsin' area since it's not the total region, same goes for 'waqoyi galbeed/awdal' only Burco is allowed to keep it's daaqsin based on total area, the rest will be measured accurately to work out their portion of nomadic population. But 60% of that 6 million is Harti. So that give them 3.6 million nomads. Burco gets 10% of the nomadic count so 10% of 6 million is 600k.

So now we know 70% of nomads are majerten/gm/burco. Western sanaag is to tiny to compute due it to land size and will be skipped and given the 'rest' after the big boys share the meat. But that 30% will need to given to 'awdal/waqoyi galbeed/hiran' who will need to measure their 'daaqsin' areas before sharing based on ratio for that 30% pool of 1.8 million, it will be tough, nitty, gritty, and how shit should be nothing 'free n given' like clan shuucism, it just leads to injustice to develop that class--less based society. @Farjano-Walad prefers the nitty/gritty/ shit and everyone getting down to measurements of wells, daaqsin, total area sq and then sharing on the portion on 'landheer/langaab' kkkkk. Farjano may hate majerten but his also strict monarchist kkkk so he knows nothing is for free everything must earned and proven.

Anyways Majerten total population by ratio is 1.4 million in settled population which UNFPA is accurate but totally and on purpose skipped the 2.4 million nomadic population PL and thus under-counted it by a massive range, which should give Majerten 3.8 million population range and Hartis get 600k for urbanites and 1.2 million for nomads giving them 1.8 million population.

Combined PL is 3.8 million plus 1.8 Million for total 5.6 million of Somalia population of 15 million meaning we are truly 37% of the population as Harti wayne and accepted a far lesser count at 30% which is what farole assumes because he shares the nomadic population not on 'pure nomadic goof' and includes the national land mass into his nomadic calculations which is wrong. The goof of nomads in the nation is around 360,000 SQ KM only not 637,000 SQ KM of Somalia proper and only includes PL/GM/Togdheer/Makhir/Khatumo the rest are 'mixed' goof and not enough to sustain livestock growth due small 'pastures' lol
 

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1.8 million is in mogadishu and hs/gm urban ratio is less if u think about since most 'farming villages' and not urban so they will need to 'sit down in the farming ratio' quota of 20% pool which is a 3 million pool of Somalia a-lot of this will be Madows-Digil Mirifle/Hags with Darod with lesser percentage but they will be in that pool of sharing but it will be dominated by DM/Madows without a doubt and followed by HAG.

So the urban ratio pool of 1.8 million is accurate for MOG but in HS/GM u will need to adjust it accordingly with farming/nomadic ratio and don't neglect that or u may be assigning them more then they warrant

So HS/GM should get what MJ get in urban ratio/non urban ratio. If Majerten is 1.4 million urban and 3 million non urban. That is ratio of 45% urban 65% not urban. We will need to apply the same ratio for HS/GM also. So that 3.5 million pool will truly be 65% not urban. So only 40% are urban.

So HS/GM numbers are 1.4 million urban like MJ and the rest 2 million not urban which doesn't f*ck up their over all share of somalia population it's purely still 25% for 150,000 SQ KM area size, their total isn't changing, it's just their urban ratio n non urban ratio is changing so they don't dip into the urban pool claiming 3.5 million when that is unwarranted and garbage to say 25% of all HS/GM are settled when GDP stats say other wise.

So HS gets 1.4 million from 6 million and mogadishu gets 1.8 million. Roughly 3.2 million is pretty accurate for HAG urbanites, 1.4 is accurate for MJ urbanites, JL urbanite ratio needs to be adjusted to reflect that 65/40 rule. So that 1 million only 600k is urbanites, Makhir/Khatumo is the same 600k urbanites.

So darod in total is 1.2 million is urbanite in JL/Makhir/Khatumo and Majerteniya 1.4 million are urbanites. So we own 2.6 million share of the 6 million pool of urbans and hag own 3.2 million for mog/gm/hs.

Dir Waqoyi is tiny as f*ck since their total population is 15% of Somalia total population giving them only 2 million share in the over-all Somalia population similar JL is all dir waqoyi. I suspect their urban/nomadic/farming ratio is different to the usual 65/40 rule in most other places.
 
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I stopped reading at " PL constitutes 220, 000 SQ KM".

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DR OSMAN

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Lets simplify it even further.

Total population 15 million. Nomadic 6 million. Farming 3 million. 6 million urban. That using GDP rates where farming is 20% only. livestock is 40%. Services is 40% indicating urban settlements. Farming is further broken down with fishery though as it's considered an agriculture also.

Let's assign that 15 million horta by somalia land mass since the land mass is a whole total of nomad/farmer/urban.

SL Dirta Waqoyi constitute 86000 KM plus 21000 SQ KM. That's 15% share of urban/farming/nomadic of Somalia as a whole. So 2 millionkooda miska uu saara

PL/Makhir/Khatumo Constitutes 220,000 SQ KM of 637,000 SQ KM. Miska uu saara 5 millionkooda

JL Constitutes 110,000 SQ KM of 637,000 SQ KM. Miska uu saara 2 millionkooda since that's 15% share of nation urban/nomad/farmers especially madows/digil

GM/HS is 150,0000 SQ KM of 637,000 SQ KM. That's 25% of Somalia total population. Miska uu saara 3.5 million. Siday uu kala qaybsanayan iyagay uu taal especially madows/dirs

Mogadishu is the capital and out of the equation in federalism and get different 'federal status'.

Now Urban pool is 6 million. U need to prove your city first which are 'few' in Somalia. Hargeisa will eat well from this pool but their over-all population won't change as it's constrainted to 2 million no matter. Galkayo-Bosaso-Garowe will eat well. Cadaado-Dhuso-Beletwayn-Baydhabo is the only real thing considered a urban area.

Kismayo is the only real urban area. So that 6 million is between them and 'area sq' is going to be measured. If u include Mog thats 2 million gone. So 4 million will be shared across Hargeisa-Bosaso-Kismayo-Galkayo-Baydhabo-Dhuso-Cadaado-Burco. It will come down to burco-galkayo-bosaso-kismayo-hargeisa taking 3.5 million easy from here and the remaining to dhuso-baydhabo-cadaado who are secondary towns. So even urban areas need to be graded as A-B-C level

HS/JL/SW will now need to 'sit' down the 'farming' rounds since this 3 million is between them only and has no PL/MAKHIR/GM/Eastern SL involvement, they will sit under the nomadic 'pool' of 6 million and 'measure water consumption, livestock rate, pasture size' this is where my 'expertise' is and I know PL portion that's for sure is no less then 40% of that nomadic pool since the 'daaqsin' has been adjusted to remove south somalia which are farming lands to a proper daaqsin space of 340,000 SQ KM and hence Majerten portion is 150,000 SQ KM of that giving 40% ratio.

So Somalia just need to work out their ratio of farming/urban/nomad and take their assigned land area sq of somalia and begin an 'cadalad' process and a proper power-sharing oo qof walbo qancin karto based on pure mathamatics
 
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DR OSMAN

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@OTF why don't you go measure yourself online. North-Galkacyo-Jariban is 50,000 SQ KM. Hobyo is 26,000 SQ KM. Nugaal is 26,000 SQ KM. Bari 70000 SQ KM. That's 150,000 SQ KM. Makhir is 45,000 SQ KM of Sanaag and Western Sanaag is 7000 SQ KM.

Togdheer is 40,000 SQ KM with Buhodle being 10,000 SQ KM. Isaaq is only 30,000 SQ Km in Togdheer-7000 SQ KM in western sanaag and waqoyi galbeed is 28,000 SQ KM. You are only 77000 SQ KM if you really want to get to measuring and Awdal is 21,000 SQ KM. You are total of 90,000 SQ KM as 'dir' waqoyi and only constitute that in urban/nomads and your share in 'farming' pool is minimal at best in comparison to JL/SW/KW farming pool. Farming pool is 15% of Somalia total population if you look at GDP ratio as that is all it contributes.

It's only a 3 million population center. Nomadic one is 40% population center based on livestock GDP contributions. While urban areas are 40% based on 30% services and 10% industry. So even the urban area can be broken down into Categories of Towns and Cities as a Town only has 'services' like market place(imports mainly) where as a city has 'industry' like comms-money transfer-electricity-water being the biggest portion of industry with the remaining being restaurants/cafes/shops/hotels which is far smaller GDP earning in industry sector in comparison to those big lifelines.

So even that urban population will be split on the lines of town and cities and PL has heaps of towns even though they may not be cities but it will get it's share from that 30% service industry and accept lesser share in industry sector due to our cities not being as large as hargeisa-mogadishu. But we will eat the most in the 'import n services' sector anyway for our shit load of towns
 

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I don’t think we have a huge population, we tend to exaggerate our numbers for personal and survival interest. However it’s great news for us because we have enough land and resources to eventually make our country wealthy with the right leadership :)
 

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