Somalia is likely to become an Arabized country like Sudan

[Juke]

noobins chased after misri woman like African American men chase after whyte women, and they were matrilineal like you mentioned.


same reason why Scotland speaks a language related to English, the Scottish nobility kept marrying English women and gaelic died out.

You're talking about the west Eurasian female sex bias in Kulubnarti Christians? Sure.

As for the post 14th century period it was the children of matrilineal Nubian females and patrilineal Arab males that inherited everything. That was the main mechanism of Arabization/Islamization. It's apparent in the transition from e1b1b in the Christian period to the present J1 in modern times. I'll try to find the historiographical source for you as well.

 

[hinters]

No we're not. And Somalia has much bigger things to worry about than loanwords.

I think I once heard @Periplus say that Somali had more loanwords back before kacaan than it does today.

 

[Danakiil]

You're talking about the west Eurasian female sex bias in Kulubnarti Christians? Sure.

As for the post 14th century period it was the children of matrilineal Nubian females and patrilineal Arab males that inherited everything. That was the main mechanism of Arabization/Islamization. It's apparent in the transition from e1b1b in the Christian period to the present J1 in modern times. I'll try to find the historiographical source for you as well.

Rip to my Nubian niggas they got cucked heavy. Alhamdullah we & our cousin's @Nilotic man's didn't meet the same fate as our Black brothers to the north

 

[Journey.]

"Ana Arab" trolling = guaranteed reaction

A tried and tested fave for trolls.

 

[Somaliwadani123]

What's with guys like u love sucking arab dick these days, these arabs wouldnt let there daughters marry Sudanese men and your out here wanting to be arabized or something have u no pride of being Somali.
Look at the south we have more arab there then the north have u ever seen the somalis claiming arab lineage what so ever, instead of us being arabized it was them that was somalized but man u people in the north are legit begging to arabized like have some honour. What an embarrassment to ur ancestors wallahi

Way more arabs in the north.....arab salah are all Yemenis that have been somaliazed.....in the south the cad cad dont even mix with southern somalis (unless they get raped) and for the most part stay away from southern somalis (like they do in the west)

 

[killerxsmoke]

Way more arabs in the north.....arab salah are all Yemenis that have been somaliazed.....in the south the cad cad dont even mix with southern somalis (unless they get raped) and for the most part stay away from southern somalis (like they do in the west)

Your taking about the same people that run for Hg men, yh right

Arab salah dont even look like arabs

 

[Laagite]

Way more arabs in the north.....arab salah are all Yemenis that have been somaliazed.....in the south the cad cad dont even mix with southern somalis (unless they get raped) and for the most part stay away from southern somalis (like they do in the west)

Your taking about the same people that run for Hg men, yh right

Arab salah dont even look like arabs
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Arab Salah are ethnic Arab-Soomaal, the Mehri Sultan from Yemen regularly visit the Arab Salah community in Puntland.

 

[killerxsmoke]

Arab Salah are ethnic Arab-Soomaal, the Mehri Sultan from Yemen regularly visit the Arab Salah community in Puntland.

And? So does the leader of darood

 

[Aurelian]

And even if Somali had 100% Arabic vocabulary it would still mostly sound like gibberish to actual Arabs and be classifiable as Cushitic:

Lexicon has nothing to do with the classification of a language. That is based on its internal structure as a language like its morphology. English is not "part Germanic and part Latin" because it contains many Latin words, it is 100% Germanic regardless of how many Greek, Latin, French or whatever words are in it because it is extremely rare for a language's basic structure like its morphology to be changed by contact. Somali is still firmly Cushitic in this respect.

And like I said, go to a magaalad like Boosaaso or Hargeyso or Xamar and see how many people you meet who even know how to speak actual Arabic. Worse yet, go to tuuloyinka.

You think these people are legit think Somalia in merge of arabisation?

 

[Bapo]

Your taking about the same people that run for Hg men, yh right

Arab salah dont even look like arabs
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Arab Saalax DNA shows they get Arab haplogroups unlike their "brothers". They have just mixed with locals to the extent they don't look it anymore. Many have MJ or surrounding clan mothers. You will come across some Arab-looking ones once in a while.

 

[killerxsmoke]

Arab Saalax DNA shows they get Arab haplogroups unlike their "brothers". They have just mixed with locals to the extent they don't look it anymore. Many have MJ or surrounding clan mothers. You will come across some Arab-looking ones once in a while.

That goes for all somalis, my sister for example looks arab

 

[Bapo]

That goes for all somalis, my sister for example looks arab

No it doesn't. There is a huge difference between an Arab Salax with haplogroup J that matches with other Arabs compared to an E-V32 that is from the jungles of Somalia.

 

[killerxsmoke]

No it doesn't. There is a huge difference between an Arab Salax with haplogroup J that matches with other Arabs compared to an E-V32 that is from the jungles of Somalia.

Bruh there are many somalis in the north that has j haplogroup

 

[Bapo]

Bruh there are many somalis in the north that has j haplogroup

Such as? No real ethnic Somali has haplogroup J whether Hawiye, Dir, Darood or Raxanweyn. Somalis are either E-V32 or T mid ukala bax. The only J carriers are Gabooye, Arab minority clans and a few people claiming major clans.

 

[Shimbiris]

No it doesn't. There is a huge difference between an Arab Salax with haplogroup J that matches with other Arabs compared to an E-V32 that is from the jungles of Somalia.

Could you link to their J1 matching with Arabs? I've seen like 1 or 2 Carab Saalax J1s over the years and I recall that there was no proof it wasn't the normal Somali kind of J1 that pops up in other qabiils and could very well just be Xabashi in origin. And jungles of Somalia? Nigga, there are no jungles in Somalia. In fact, there's more dune desert areas like the Arabia the J1 you're speaking of is common in than any jungles.

 

[Bapo]

Could you link to their J1 matching with Arabs? I've seen like 1 or 2 Carab Saalax J1s over the years and I recall that there was no proof it wasn't the normal Somali kind of J1 that pops up in other qabiils and could very well just be Xabashi in origin. And jungles of Somalia? Nigga, there are no jungles in Somalia. In fact, there's more dune desert areas like the Arabia the J1 you're speaking of is common in than any jungles.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/yfull-discussion-thread.112951/post-2994787

I know there are no jungles in Somalia, it was a metaphor.

 

[Shimbiris]

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/yfull-discussion-thread.112951/post-2994787

I know there are no jungles in Somalia, it was a metaphor.

Ah, but that's not Arab. That's Modern South Arabian. His paternal-line ancestors were Mehris who are culturally very similar to Somalis overall. Coastal pastoral nomadic people with some fishing villages and port-towns who practiced some trade along the Gulf and used Arabic as their written and trade language whilst being Muslims. Only difference is that they're peninsular Arabians. Funnily enough, Mehris' language has a Cushitic substratum like the other MSA languages and I've seen somewhat convincing autosomal models showing they may have some real Cushitic ancestry in the 5-10% ball-park.

 

[Saciid]

I've seen somewhat convincing autosomal models showing they may have some real Cushitic ancestry in the 5-10% ball-park.

I thought they were the purest Khaleejis? Also, u think then that the wrapped garment worn in Yemen could have come from ancient Cushitics?

 

[Shimbiris]

I thought they were the purest Khaleejis? Also, u think then that the wrapped garment worn in Yemen could have come from ancient Cushitics?

To be fair, the models are a bit dicey. Are they picking up on Arabian admixture in Cushites or vice-versa? But I think, given the substratum, it's entirely possible they have some real minor Cushitic admixture and the admixture does persist even when using the old pastoralists rather than Somalis.

And hmmm, wrapped garment seems something native to NE Africa and Arabia both. Notice how similar the garments of the Ancient Nubians and Egyptians are to it along with the fixation with white. Even the dress code for Ihram, for example. I suspect this is what folks generally wore on both sides of the Red Sea for a long time.

 

[Dima&Damo]

Osmanaya must be installed as a regional sqript