Somali Unique Culture Difference

[DR OSMAN]

My mother was saying people who came from the north past beletwayn river were radically different to southern culture. The southern culture is about 'saving face' and 'gossip' and politeness publically but behind close doors 'gossip and filth'. It's sort of like Chinese culture come to think of it 'saving face' such as 'ceebtada bananka lama soo dhigo" which the chinese are notorious for. Even the Puntites who were born there and raised have this culture by social conditioning.

But my father who wasn't born/raised there, wasn't conditioned by it even tho he spent all of his working life there and even secondary schooling.

Where-as the culture above beletwayn river are very direct-frank-take no prisoner and doesn't care for public image if they have a point to raise.

She said they had a hard time adjusting to besani culture in the city. This besani culture of friend/immediate family social networking circle where-as they thought landheernimo was the biggest importance, is it just an urban reality no matter where in the world, is this present in southern farming areas?

I am conditioned by Australia which is world known for it's no pussyfootin-shoot from the hip-direct-frank approach relative to other western cultures. We seem to have a mix of australian-chinese save face values. Could this be a big factor in our conflict as we don't even think the same?

 

[DR OSMAN]

I think the direct-frank-take no prisoner mentality is appropriate at this time of our history becuz the nation is in a mess, you can't go around sing, dance, gossip, save face, etc when the nation reflects a sewage, that's my reasoning anyway. We need honest people to counter this 'gossip snake' like conditioning rooted in mogadishu areas.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I mean the old hamar urban besani culture where social networking was purely immediate family and neighborhood friends not clan, now mogadishu is conditioned with galgaduud culture after they invaded in 91 downfall of siyad barre, but the old-timers and true natives are still around and remember it.

The galgaduud culture seem to think their smart by using besani tactic in public but operating on northern values in private lol according to my mother. They are not fooling anyone by acting like hamar person in public but in private a real true 'moryan heart' is what they are.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@seldiboy come to think of it lots of eritreans who grew up in our besani mogadishu where neighbors and immediately family only mattered to natives, theirs heaps who live in the diaspora treated like real citizens becuz that was the urban culture of mogadishu. Only rule was are u a friend in the neighborhood or immediate family, no other value existed other then lots of 'gossiping' on each other while smiling in public. Not this current mogadishu invaded by galgaduud clans who are tryin to merge it lol by being privately tribal and snake like and in public smiling. They even corrupted the besani culture

That's why Puntite Queen is going to root out all them moryans using besani n private tribe hate and trying to merge it so they look publically besani on tv, but truly are just tribal lunatics in disguise.

 

[anon2]

I mean the old hamar urban besani culture where social networking was purely immediate family and neighborhood friends not clan, now mogadishu is conditioned with galgaduud culture after they invaded in 91 downfall of siyad barre, but the old-timers and true natives are still around and remember it.

The galgaduud culture seem to think their smart by using besani tactic in public but operating on northern values in private lol according to my mother. They are not fooling anyone by acting like hamar person in public but in private a real true 'moryan heart' is what they are.

My father would tell me the old Xamar was great in terms of social acceptance and respect, this is when Somali dhqaan was at it's Peak. It makes sense as everyone was educated and talking clan issues was seen as backwards "reer miyi/badiyho" talk. You had entire neighbors where every house was a different clan. You would go to class with people from other places all over Somalia who moved to Xamar, you would play sports with them, then you would do hobbies like watch theater with them. A common identity was being "built" in the youth.

People like Faysal Cali Waraabe benefited from this healthy clean environment that valued the nation-state and education rather than Qabil. Now they use the Qabil card for their own benefit