Somali Red Wedding

[Thebluesomali]

This story is from the book An Azanian Trio: Three East African Arabic Historical Documents which translates the manuscript titled Kitab Al Zunuj which is an account of the eastern coast of Africa that mentions the history of the Arabs Swahili and Somali peoples. The Ghaylan in the story are Galla or Oromo and were pagans during this time.

In the year 1282[1865–1866]the Somalis were pasturing the cattle of the Banū Qays Ghaylān at Kisimāyū and the surrounding districts. The Somalis were all at one in pasturing until one day the elder who was their leader mentioned, “The poor are enemies of the wealthy, so how is it that you are pasturing their herds and flocks like their slaves. It is better that we fight them and divide their wealth as spoil from God, and we shall be their masters by the generosity of God.” So the Somalis set about making war in the morning unawares, and they fought bitterly, and the Somālis were defeated and made reconciliation. The Banū Qays Ghaylān accepted the reconciliation. Then the Somalis wrote a letter to the leader in Birbira to urge them to come to Kisimayū and Wāmā, and the Somalis came in troops from Birbira and from Ḥāfūn, also going in ships to Kisimāyū, until the Somalis became numerous. They made war again on the Banū Qays Ghaylān and fought and the Somālis were defeated, and they made peace and the Banu Qays Ghaylān accepted the peace; and the Somālis returned to pasturing the cattle of the Banū Qays Ghaylān as at first. Then the Somālis wrote a letter that a large number of their people should come and perform the pastoral work deceitfully so that there might be gathered a great number. Then when the Somāli army had become very strong, they set about making preparations for the marriage and prepared a wedding feast, and invited about seventy of the Banū Qays Ghaylān leaders, valiant and brave. The Banū Qays Ghaylān accepted the invitation, and when the Ghaylān arrived they ate and drank and remained for the night; and the Somālis rose against the Ghaylān and slaughtered in the night seventy men while they slept. Then the Somālis kept on fighting them and they took their women, and they were sold in the districts of Fāza, Sīwī, Bata and Āmu. They spread out there and the Banū Qays Ghaylān fled and were made prisoners and the price of a girl was twenty riyals or less.

 

[Thebluesomali]

Another interesting thing is their own slaves ended up turning on them as well after being defeated by Somalis.

One of the Banū Qays Ghaylān fled with the Ghaylān women and others, and went to their slaves who were called WaBūni in the Swahili language, and when they arrived they consulted with one another [i.e. the WaBūni] that “You should sell them because fortune has changed against them.” One of the WaBūni said: “Take each of us one of them and maintain them.” So they each took one and welcomed them, each one to his companion. The WaBūni sent news to a village of Lāmū called ʿArūra beside Makanūbi and above it. The news of the Ghaylān and their women spread, and the WaBūni said to the people of the village, “Will you buy the Ghaylān women?”, and they said, “Yes.” So they killed all [the men] and sold the women. Then all who heard considered, for the WaBūni were slaves of the Ghaylān, but fortune turned upon the Ghaylān, and they were humiliated to such a degree that their children and women were sold, and those who sold them were their slaves, as God Most High said, “Have they not seen that God extends the acquirement of wealth to whom He wishes and limits it? Truly in that there are signs for a believing people.”

 

[Thebluesomali]

Paste this link into one of the scihub websites to read the full thing. Interesting book.

An Azanian Trio

"An Azanian Trio" published on 19 Dec 2019 by Brill.

brill.com

 

[Hamzza]

This story has some truth to it but it is from the garbage book Kitaab al-Xaar(aka Zunuuj).

 

[Thebluesomali]

This story has some truth to it but it is from the garbage book Kitaab al-Xaar(aka Zunuuj).

Why do you say it's garbage lol.

 

[Hamzza]

Why do you say it's garbage lol.

Some of the apparent errors in the book:

1. Southern Somalia was ruled by the Bantu kingdom Shungwaya.
2. Mogadishu and other Benadir towns were founded by the Bantu.
3. Galla(Oromo) and Somalis are from Arabia.... and a whole other lot of bs claims.

Some historians used this book as a historical source to push their agenda of Somalis being not native to Southern Somalia. The book was written at the end of the 19th century by the way.

 

[Thebluesomali]

Some of the apparent errors in the book:

1. Southern Somalia was ruled by the Bantu kingdom Shungwaya.
2. Mogadishu and other Benadir towns were founded by the Bantu.
3. Galla(Oromo) and Somalis are from Arabia.... and a whole other lot of bs claims.

Some historians used this book as a historical source to push their agenda of Somalis being not native to Southern Somalia. The book was written at the end of the 19th century by the way.

As with most historical books, there is always some outdated and debunked theories or stories, but I wouldn't discount the entire book. Some parts are actually true. Also didn't you say Somalis are native to southern Ethiopia?

 

[Hamzza]

As with most historical books, there is always some outdated and debunked theories or stories, but I wouldn't discount the entire book. Some parts are actually true. Also didn't you say Somalis are native to southern Ethiopia?

Yes, Somalis and other Lowland Cushitic speaking people originated from Southern Ethiopia.
This is Map showing how Somalis expanded to the Horn

But we preceded Bantus and others to Southern Somalia.

 

[Thebluesomali]

Yes, Somalis and other Lowland Cushitic speaking people originated from Southern Ethiopia.
This is Map showing how Somalis expanded to the Horn View attachment 242910
But we preceded Bantus and others to Southern Somalia.

I prefer this theory tbh. My aabo Darood came from Arabia not the jungles of Ethiopia.

 

[Hamzza]

I prefer this theory tbh. My aabo Darood came from Arabia not the jungles of Ethiopia.

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Daarood's children are Somalized Arabs

 

[killerxsmoke]

I prefer this theory tbh. My aabo Darood came from Arabia not the jungles of Ethiopia.

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What to be a pharaoh so bad when your not

 

[Aurelian]

I prefer this theory tbh. My aabo Darood came from Arabia not the jungles of Ethiopia.

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stop trolling.

 

[Garaad diinle]

I read and re-read the kitab al zing and i become more convinced that it is a fabricated history from the mid 19th century to the latter have of the 19th century. They claim that warday are a
group of Jahili arab who came to somalia before the risala. They come presumable through habasha and down. If i remember correctly they even claim that their skin got dark because they intermixd with habasha. Anyway they sort of also describe the war between somali and warday and how the small but dominant warday was defeated by somalis and how some of them fled to NFD.


By the way the warday were somalizazed long before the 19th century in fact they claim to be warday ali which is reminiscente of Tuni ali and Jiddo ali. The warday living beyond the tana river identify as oromo and they have arrived in to their current lockation through a different route than the other somali speaking warday.

They say that there was a somali population living in the area long before them and that these somali tought them islam and they absorbed the somali tribes. The orma still remembers these somali tribes names and it's Gari= Garre, Tuna= tuni and Gitto= Jiddo. The orma living beyond the tana river are culturely somali and have somali traditional dances and games. In fact an anthropologist noted some of their vocabularies are somali and attributed to loans from trades and interaction with each other.

 

[Thebluesomali]

What to be a pharaoh so bad when your not

Our haplogroup is from northern Africa and our ancestors came down to northern Somalia long time ago. Look where Beja, a fellow cushitic people live.

 

[Thebluesomali]

stop trolling.

You don't have to believe the Arabia theory, it's possible we came directly down from north Africa instead of crossing to pre-Arab lands.

 

[killerxsmoke]

Our haplogroup is from northern Africa and our ancestors came down to northern Somalia long time ago. Look where Beja, a fellow cushitic people live.

And? That is over 10,000 below israel

 

[Thebluesomali]

And? That is over 10,000 below israel

So how am I a wannabe pharoah if my ancestors left north Africa before there was even an Egypt. We were Punt not Egyptians.

 

[Garaad diinle]

The somalis probably lived in upper egypt lower nubia durning the green sahara period and later moved south looking for greener pastures. There is a clear traceable path of their southern movment.

Upper egypt if i recall have a high concentration of e-v12 which is the parent haplogroup av
e-v32 mutation. South of that in sudan you will find a high consentration of e-v32 among the masalit, fur and beja people. Down from that is amhara, tigre and tigrayans wich also have a high e-v32. Down from them is oromo who also have high e-v32 population. Finaly the somalis
with the highst e-v32 concentration.

Furthermore the somalis have intermixed with nilotic like population who is not native to the horn of africa and only found historicly in sudan. There is also a lingusitc path from upper egypt down to the horn of africa. Haplogroup e is one of the oldest haplogrops in the world and belongs to africa contunent Wa Allahu a'lam.

 

[Garaad diinle]

Somalis are not egyption nor do they speak their language. Somali ancestry predate the predynastic egyptian they have also coexisted with them and outlasted ancient egyptions new kingdom and the late period. Somalis livestyle in the early 20th centery wasn't that diffrent from
ouple of thousend years back. Stone industries and hide clothing still existed in somalia
and now it's found among the konso.

 

[Thebluesomali]

I agree with the comment above. Me personally I believe Darood was part of a migration that went to Arabia instead of the horn and he was like the Arabs that have E-V32. Then he entered the horn and the rest is history.