Somali girls mashallah are progressing good with career and educated but also want a mashallah guur can the 2 work together?

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so_wavey

Good career earning money is a masculine trait

These girls will have good career and earning money good but they need to understand they are sacrificing a beautiful guur in the process this is the reality

"I am beautiful educated and earning money good career but men are intimated" yes dear because for the majority of men thats a turn of

They want to have their cake and eat it life doesn't work that these girls also want meher and also want their money to be theres and husbands money to be theres does that make sense?

If you go down that road i think the best is to go with the gaalo formula 50-50 no meher split the wedding cost in 2 your money is his money his money is yours

You pay half the rent and he pays the other half you both share household responsibility
 
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Throughout history there were women that worked or had wealth due to having businesses ect.

Khadijah the honorable mother of the believers was one of them. She made 'good money' and had her own business.
I dare you try and say anything about that.

Just focus on yourself. It is clear to see you're a bum. Stop competing with women. Its embarrassing.
 
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Oh and Islamically. Even if your wife has her own stream of income, it is still your duty to provide. Her money is her own and she does not have to share it with you.

You are still obligated to pay mehr. Not doing so is a major sin and you will be in debt on the day of judgement.

My wife has money of her own is not an excuse for you not to provide.
 
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Angelina said:
Throughout history there were women that worked or had wealth due to having businesses ect.

Khadijah the honorable mother of the believers was one of them. She made 'good money' and had her own business.
I dare you try and say anything about that.

Just focus on yourself. It is clear to see you're a bum. Stop competing with women. Its embarrassing.
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khadija was working before islam That was before islam same way liqor was allowed before islam the time the prophet met khadija he never had even the first Revelation many things the arabs was doing wrong before islam

In deen the woman job is to maintain the household and man to provide simple as that
 
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Angelina said:
Oh and Islamically. Even if your wife has her own stream of income, it is still your duty to provide. Her money is her own and she does not have to share it with you.

You are still obligated to pay mehr. Not doing so is a major sin and you will be in debt on the day of judgement.

My wife has money of her own is not an excuse for you not to provide.
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well why do they pick and choose then because in islam its not her duty to work its the man to provide if they want a gaalo formula you shouldn't pick and choose

I know its there right but funny how they pick and choose
 
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so_wavey said:
khadija was working before islam That was before islam same way achole was allowed before islam the time the prophet met khadija he never had even the first Revelation many things the arabs was doing wrong before islam

In deen the woman job is to maintain the household and man to provide simple as that
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She was a business woman. She still kept her business after Islam and used her money for the greater good of Islam.

No scholar has ever said it is haraam for women to work. There is nothing to suggest that women cannot have their own wealth.

If you want a stay at home wife, she can still work from home, whether it be remote IT work or online business ect. And guess what? Her money is her money and you still have no rights to it.
 
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so_wavey said:
well why do they pick and choose then because in islam its not her duty to work its the man to provide if they want a gaalo formula you shouldn't pick and choose

I know its there right but funny how they pick and choose
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Its not picking and choosing. Women making money is completely halal. There is nothing gaalo about it.

That is merely your opinion, stop forcing your opinion on people. If you don't want a working wife, you're well within your rights to get one that doesn't work.
 
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Angelina said:
She was a business woman. She still kept her business after Islam and used her money for the greater good of Islam.

No scholar has ever said it is haraam for women to work. There is nothing to suggest that women cannot have their own wealth.

If you want a stay at home wife, she can still work from home, whether it be remote IT work or online business ect. And guess what? Her money is her money and you still have no rights to it.
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If the husband doesnt want his wife to work it becomes haram in that case she has to liseten to her husband as long as he doesnt tell her do anything haram
 
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Angelina said:
Its not picking and choosing. Women making money is completely halal. There is nothing gaalo about it.

That is merely your opinion, stop forcing your opinion on people. If you don't want a working wife, you're well within your rights to get one that doesn't work.
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“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance”

[al-Ahzaab 33:33]
 
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so_wavey

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning women praying in the mosques: “Their houses are better for them.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 567’ classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood).


The prophet even said that about going to mosque to worship imagine going to mixed environment working?
 
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and even those exceptions when she is allowed(husband allows her to work) to work she has to follow these guidelines

-That this work is suited to the nature and aptitude of women, such as medicine, nursing, teaching, tailoring and so on.

-The work should be in a place that is for women only, with no mixing between the sexes. It is not permissible for a woman to study or work in a mixed school.

-The woman should wear proper Islamic hijaab at work.

-Her work should not lead to her travelling without a mahram.

-Her going out to work should not involve her committing any sin, such as being alone with the driver, or wearing perfume where non-mahram men will be able to smell it.

-That should not lead to her neglecting her duties of looking after the house or taking care of her husband and children.
 
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so_wavey said:
And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning women praying in the mosques: “Their houses are better for them.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 567’ classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood).


The prophet even said that about going to mosque to worship imagine going to mixed environment working?
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Not all environments are mixed. In the middle East, women work in only female schools, universities ect. Many women work from home and have their own businesses.

In that situation, you have no right to object. Her money is her own and you still have to provide.
 
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Angelina said:
Not all environments are mixed. In the middle East, women work in only female schools, universities ect. Many women work from home and have their own businesses.

In that situation, you have no right to object. Her money is her own and you still have to provide.
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The husband can tell his wife not work and if she does she will be sinning big time go ask any scholar this if husband doesnt want his wife to work can she still work?
 
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so_wavey said:
The husband can tell his wife not work and if she does she will be sinning big time go ask any scholar this if husband doesnt want his wife to work can she still work?
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Couples usually have this discussion before marriage. If he agrees before hand, he can't stop her as he is breaking his promise.Women that want to work, will not marry a man that doesn't want his wife to work.

Marry the type of woman you want to marry and let working women marry who they want. This discussion is dumb.
 
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Angelina said:
Couples usually have this discussion before marriage. If he agrees before hand, he can't stop her as he is breaking his promise.Women that want to work, will not marry a man that doesn't want his wife to work.

Marry the type of woman you want to marry and let working women marry who they want. This discussion is dumb.
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its haram in the first place for woman to work in mixed environments on top of that its not even a must for her to work so its not like she has no choice to work in mixed environment or else she cant provide

sorry but you cant win on this one

If a husband refuses his wife to work its haram for her to work plane and simple even if she is not working in mixed environment she has to obey her husband im talking from deen
 
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so_wavey said:
its haram in the first place for woman to work in mixed environments on top of that its not even a must for her to work so its not like she has no choice to work in mixed environment or else she cant provide

sorry but you cant win on this one

If a husband refuses his wife to work its haram for her to work plane and simple even if she is not working in mixed environment she has to obey her husband im talking from deen
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If a woman tells her finace that she wants to work before marriage and he agrees. He cannot stop her.

I'm talking from the deen. He is breaking his promise. She can put this in her marriage contract, which can also be a verbal agreement.

The whole mixed environment is a complete different issue as women can work in non mixed environments and some jobs are needed, such doctors and teachers.

Like i said, what you marry is up to you. Leave women alone and live your life.
 
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Angelina said:
If a woman tells her finace that she wants to work before marriage and he agrees. He cannot stop her.

I'm talking from the deen. He is breaking his promise.
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You forgetting its haram in itself for woman to work in mixed environment that has nothing to do with husband even if she is not married its haram

so in 2 things she is sinning

Number 1 its haram in itself regardless of marriage

number 2 husband commands her not to work she has to obey him
 
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