Since there a dilemma about Hawye state for Darood stat

[Aurelian]

So why reer Banadir and reer SSC work with each to further their interest in getting a state for each other since the qabiil mentality will not allow one to exist while another doesn’t exist.?

 

[Aurelian]

Why each faction talk if their existence will not happen if the other doesn’t get what they have? Their should be joint effort, and lobbying.

 

[Rationale]

Daaroods don't want third state. They are only majority in PL. JL is a shared one. There was never any reason to have equal states.

I've said it here before. Upper house should be 90seats. 20Dir, 20Daarood, 20Digil&Mirifle, 20 Hawiye and 10 for minorities. 5 senators is needed to form a state and how you distribute them is internal saamiqeybsi no one gives a shit. Inclusive Somalia born overnight.

 

[Aurelian]

Daaroods don't want third state. They are only majority in PL. JL is a shared one. There was never any reason to have equal states.

I've said it here before. Upper house should be 90seats. 20Dir, 20Daarood, 20Digil&Mirifle, 20 Hawiye and 10 for minorities. 5 senators is needed to form a state and how you distribute them is internal saamiqeybsi no one gives a shit. Inclusive Somalia born overnight.

So why in twitter and here talk about banadir state and css state all the time? And each part says the first will not exists if the other doesn’t?

 

[InaShaqalle]

SSC doesn't exist, BanShabelle State will happen regardless

 

[Bapo]

Daaroods don't want third state. They are only majority in PL. JL is a shared one. There was never any reason to have equal states.

I've said it here before. Upper house should be 90seats. 20Dir, 20Daarood, 20Digil&Mirifle, 20 Hawiye and 10 for minorities. 5 senators is needed to form a state and how you distribute them is internal saamiqeybsi no one gives a shit. Inclusive Somalia born overnight.

Why 20 Dir? Back in 1931, other clans like Raxanweyn, Darood and Hawiye were at the 200k mark while Dir was at the 20k mark. They are majority in SL. It'd all go to Biyomaal or Surre. I'd say at least 20 minorities too, 5 Madowweyne, 5 Gabooye, 5 Xamar cadcad and 5 reer Barawe.

 

[Rationale]

So why in twitter and here talk about banadir state and css state all the time? And each part says the first will not exists if the other doesn’t?

They don't know how to argue. SCC is a pipe dream. Linking Banaadir state to it is mental gymnastics.

 

[Rationale]

Why 20 Dir? Back in 1931, other clans like Raxanweyn, Darood and Hawiye were at the 200k mark while Dir was at the 20k mark. They are majority in SL. It'd all go to Biyomaal or Surre. I'd say at least 20 minorities too, 5 Madowweyne, 5 Gabooye, 5 Xamar cadcad and 5 reer Barawe.

Beacuse of 4.5

 

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SSC is not viable economically from what I understand.

On the other hand a free Benadir state is itself a threat to the fgs that uses Mogadishu as its main colony and internal revenue source.

 

[InaShaqalle]

SSC is not viable economically from what I understand.

On the other hand a free Benadir state is itself a threat to the fgs that uses Mogadishu as its main colony and internal revenue source.

Not really since Banadir state can divide up finances and powers with the FGS in the same way Ontario (which includes the capital Ottawa) divides up finances and powers with the Canadian federal government

 

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Not really since Banadir state can divide up finances and powers with the FGS in the same way Ontario (which includes the capital Ottawa) divides up finances and powers with the Canadian federal government

Powers on paper dont matter in the most corrupt country on earth. GM and Hirshabelle had their leaders picked directly by Farmajo and the same must always happen with Benadir or there is no FGS.

I told you we are sharing Ardul Samaale. Darul Darood is remaining privatized.

 

[InaShaqalle]

Powers on paper dont matter in the most corrupt country on earth. GM and Hirshabelle had their leaders picked directly by Farmajo and the same must always happen with Benadir or there is no FGS.

I told you we are sharing Ardul Samaale. Darul Darood is remaining privatized.

Banadir State (BanShabelle) will be a gareen state as long as Hawiye is Somalia's president. Only gareen states will have access to international aid, trade and other funding

 

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Banadir State (BanShabelle) will be a gareen state as long as Hawiye is Somalia's president. Only gareen states will have access to international aid, trade and other funding

Hawiye states will be Gareen states whether the President is Hawiye or not. Cheese proved that.

 

[The Midlands]

SSC is a region that does not govern itself either belong to Somaliland or Puntland so Gedo is a candidate to be an excuse for HAG to create Banaadir State so there can be three Hawiye states Vs three Daarood states.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Banadir State (BanShabelle) will be a gareen state as long as Hawiye is Somalia's president. Only gareen states will have access to international aid, trade and other funding

If makhir and ssc jion together soolsanaag state is viable

 

[Rocktheboat]

Banaadir becoming a state does not depend on d getting another state at all. Very delusional people

 

[Xanibacal bin Barqa]

SSC doesn't exist, BanShabelle State will happen regardless

For a guy from Hiiraan you seem too fixated on reer SSC , I have seen a lot of your threads and posts , it's like you're holding some kind of a grudge.

 

[Gadhwayne]

SSC doesn't exist, BanShabelle State will happen regardless

This is a bad move that turns beesha dhexa Somalia Italiana against beesha dhexa KG state its easier to just declare Benaadir state let the haters cry about Benaadir statehood, this plan can get support from bribed JSL fugitives, KG delegates can get behind Benaadir statehood as long as they get some of the Benaadir seats, the minorities can be bullied into supporting but they also might get a Benaadir seat or 2. You get a majority vote with stand alone Benaadir statehood

SSC is not viable economically from what I understand.

On the other hand a free Benadir state is itself a threat to the fgs that uses Mogadishu as its main colony and internal revenue source.

There is no such thing as SSC easternSool is completely under the sons of SNM as the daughters of Abbe Afweyne can attest and Cayn/Caynaba is mostly unquestioned JSL territory today. Beesha cayneed waxaa laga dhigay reer oodeed aka reer Buuhoodle aka no-man's land

If makhir and ssc jion together soolsanaag state is viable
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The northern part of this map is roughly equivalent to the Burco and Hargeisa provinces fromt he 1960s the southern part combined roughly combined parts of Benaadir and Hiiraan and parts of Mudugh and Migiurtinia and then the bottom is roughly KG/JL from Alta Giuba and Basso Giuba

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Banaadir becoming a state does not depend on d getting another state at all. Very delusional people

How can banadir become a state when u can’t see them on the map🫣 well warsan and dhulos Land is bigger than habro issaq

 

[InaShaqalle]

For a guy from Hiiraan you seem too fixated on reer SSC , I have seen a lot of your threads and posts , it's like you're holding some kind of a grudge.

No grudge on my part but the other side?