Side eye to all these “stand with Palestine” head ass governments

[aden1812]

 

[Bazed]

Bolivia has cut ties with Israel and has been home to a lot of Palestinian diaspora along with Chile (which has the largest Palestinian diaspora community).

 

[mohammdov]

Somalia is also without a visa. I spoke with someone who worked in Hargeisa. He said that he entered without a visa

 

[aden1812]

correction: there are eVisas and visas on arrival, that list is about 40 countries in total, and somalia is on that list.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Palestinians use Jordanian documentations when they travel. In fact, there's a special passports specifically for Palestinians issues by Jordan.

 

[aden1812]

Palestinians use Jordanian documentations when they travel. In fact, there's a special passports specifically for Palestinians issues by Jordan.

no one really talks about this, but the reason Palestine doesnt exist is because the "people of palestine" are a protectorate of the Hashemite kingdom of jordan. the king of jordan is only ns only in power because of the british and europe. if jordan released the title of "protectorate of the Palestinians" that is the only way Palestinians will be able to gain sovereignty. Israel uses this legal loophole to steal land from the Palestinians, and Jordan keeps the title because the king would become powerless if he works against the west.

i feel like 99% of the world argues for Palestine, but don't blame Jordan enough.

 

[GaradShabeel]

no one really talks about this, but the reason Palestine doesnt exist is because the "people of palestine" are a protectorate of the Hashemite kingdom of jordan. the king of jordan is only ns only in power because of the british and europe. if jordan released the title of "protectorate of the Palestinians" that is the only way Palestinians will be able to gain sovereignty. Israel uses this legal loophole to steal land from the Palestinians, and Jordan keeps the title because the king would become powerless if he works against the west.

i feel like 99% of the world argues for Palestine, but don't blame Jordan enough.

Are you serious? Don't disrespect Jordan like this, even if you don't like their King(s). It's obvious that their monarchy is a wester-supported/allied institution, but he has no power whatsoever in Palestinian territories today.

In fact, no other (Arab) country has done to help and stand with the Palestinians like Jordan. When the Nakba happened in 1948 and Palestinians were driven out of their land and again after 1967, Jordan was the only country that gave them citizenships. Meanwhile, they are still stateless in other Arab countries after living there for 70+ years.

And saying that Palestine doesn't exist because they are a 'protectorate of Jordan' is a failed attempt at trying to wash off everything Israel has done to Palestinians and their land. No one can be held more accountable to the current reality of Palestinians, than Israel itself.

If you follow the Israel-Palestinian conflict, then maybe you would've know that Jordan gave up its claim to Palestinian territories in the *90s*. What has happened since then? Everything has gotten worse for Palestinians and lost more land. The only thing Jordan claim today is being custodian of the holy site.

 

[aden1812]

Are you serious? Don't disrespect Jordan like this, even if you don't like their King(s). It's obvious that their monarchy is a wester-supported/allied institution, but he has no power whatsoever in Palestinian territories today.

In fact, no other (Arab) country has done to help and stand with the Palestinians like Jordan. When the Nakba happened in 1948 and Palestinians were driven out of their land and again after 1967, Jordan was the only country that gave them citizenships. Meanwhile, they are still stateless in other Arab countries after living there for 70+ years.

And saying that Palestine doesn't exist because they are a 'protectorate of Jordan' is a failed attempt at trying to wash off everything Israel has done to Palestinians and their land. No one can be held more accountable to the current reality of Palestinians, than Israel itself.

If you follow the Israel-Palestinian conflict, then maybe you would've know that Jordan gave up its claim to Palestinian territories in the *90s*. What has happened since then? Everything has gotten worse for Palestinians and lost more land. The only thing Jordan claim today is being custodian of the holy site.

you are right, i didnt know they gave up that right in 1988, i'm mature enough to know when i am wrong. then it begs the question, why does the world show so much support to palestine when there is the same things happening to Africans, Burmese, or Uyghurs at the same time.

i know its a weird take, but outside the islamic holy sites, it just seems like Palestine/hamas has better PR.

 

[GaradShabeel]

you are right, i didnt know they gave up that right in 1988, i'm mature enough to know when i am wrong. then it begs the question, why does the world show so much support to palestine when there is the same things happening to Africans, Burmese, or Uyghurs at the same time.

i know its a weird take, but outside the islamic holy sites, it just seems like Palestine/hamas has better PR.

It’s also a case of where western countries shows their hypocrisies.

In the case of Africa, Uyghurs, Rohinya, it seem like most countries condemn whoever engages in war crimes. Not always nor necessary on moral grounds, more so as it fits their political geo-political agenda. Such as using the Uyghurs to score points against Russia. But nevertheless, they speak out to some extent. Not enough, but people let it slide.

When it comes to Israel, the ‘human rights champions’ all of a sudden either turn a blind eye to war crimes or actively support them. Which of course raises eyebrows and garner attention, even for people who don’t follow politics. As I said before, in this scenario it goes hand in hand with western countries political stances, because they are allied with Israel. And they will always support each other.

Also, your suggestion of PR by Hamas does not make sense. Hamas have only existed for a couple of decades, meanwhile the Palestinian cause have always had a lot of attention and support since the beginning.