Should Oromia be like Somaliland?

Oromia should follow in the footsteps of Somaliland​

BY ABBA AYAAN ON 3RD FEBRUARY 2022 |
OPINION
In a predictable move, the deep state in Ethiopia released a few political prisoners that it believes will serve the purpose of saving the empire from its inevitable collapse once again.
The move included the release of some of the founding members of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) but most importantly Jawar Mohammed, Bekele Gerba, and other leaders from the Oromo Federalist Congress (OFC). The release of the Oromo politicians was met with mixed reactions, with the Oromo celebrating their release and Ethiopianists being disillusioned with the decision.
Many observers of the politics of the region and stakeholders such as the United States and the United Nations welcomed the move and considered it a right step towards managing the multi-layered crisis in Ethiopia.
However, others, including myself, saw the move as dangerous, an attempt to hijack the popular demand for self-determination and escape accountability. These demands were empowered by the astonishing advance of the Oromo Liberation Army (OLA), capturing major towns and controlling entire districts or Ganda in Afaan Oromoo across Oromia and marching towards Finfinne from all directions.
The danger resides in the fact that this comes at a critical stage where hundreds of Oromos in the ranks and file of Oromia’s Special Forces, Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF), and the Federal Police are defecting to the OLA signals one thing and expose to those who pay attention that the price demanded from the released politicians is to quell the demand for self-determination and slow the surge OLA witnessed in terms of new recruits.
It left many with the question of how the Oromo as a collective can avoid falling into another trap of power-hungry politicians who will stop at nothing to self-serve, and break ties with the empire once and for all.
I would argue that a move away from the hope that mainstream politics in Ethiopia, an empire founded on displacing the Oromo, will offer any lasting solutions for genuine popular demands is a start. But it must be followed by an alignment with OLA and would require the OLA to be more transparent about the goals of its military campaign and its political programs.
Some would argue and I support that argument that only if the Oromo as a collective apply the aforementioned carefully and in a correct manner, can witness an Oromia (including federally administered Finfinne and Dire Dawa) that is completely out of the control of Ethiopia and will be able to unilaterally declare independence.
Oromia vis a vis Somaliland
As much as I would have preferred to compare Oromia to Kurdistan, Kosovo, and other nations living in similar conditions, I find it appropriate to do a comparison using an African example such as Somaliland which broke its union with Somalia in 1991 and has been operating as a de facto state ever since.
Somaliland despite having significant differences with Oromia in terms of political history, level of subjugation, size and diversity of the population, landscape, and economy shares a similar story of marginalization, exploitation of natural resources accompanied by a violent crackdown from the center.
Somalilanders like Oromos were ignored by the world and their pleas fall on deaf ears at the time of the civil war in Somalia. But instead of bowing down to pressure from the international community, Somalilanders thwarted their attempts to force them back into union with Mogadishu. And might I add that was achieved despite having internal problems and the elite fighting over the direction their unrecognized country should take.
Oromia, unlike Somaliland, is diverse in population, has the potential to become a middle-income economy but lacks the kind of able leadership that delivered Somaliland’s de facto independence.
I believe that in order to achieve full independence, a de facto independence, if not de jure, is a must. But a de facto independence should start with creating a disillusion in the public eye with the Ethiopian project.
Moreover, the Oromo elite need to abandon the proposed national dialogue, and their animosity towards OLA and support the OLA in its efforts to seize control of Oromia. The OLA on its part needs to be transparent about its political programs, leave space for criticism and allow itself to be represented by a vast and energetic diaspora.


 
You are the largest ethnic group in Ethiopia.Man the f*ck up and dominate the nation.Ethiopia should be renamed Oromia imo
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
You are the largest ethnic group in Ethiopia.Man the f*ck up and dominate the nation.Ethiopia should be renamed Oromia imo
No. They should just dominate their own region. One ethnic dominating another is why Ethiopia will always be at the brink of or in civil war.

Split Ethiopia into Oromia, Somali, Tigray and whatever is left as Ethiopia
 
Balkanize. Breakaway peacefully and become smaller nation. This Ethiopia is a forced union of ethnic groups that hate each other, one dominates the other
 

Oromia should follow in the footsteps of Somaliland​

BY ABBA AYAAN ON 3RD FEBRUARY 2022 |
OPINION
In a predictable move, the deep state in Ethiopia released a few political prisoners that it believes will serve the purpose of saving the empire from its inevitable collapse once again.
The move included the release of some of the founding members of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) but most importantly Jawar Mohammed, Bekele Gerba, and other leaders from the Oromo Federalist Congress (OFC). The release of the Oromo politicians was met with mixed reactions, with the Oromo celebrating their release and Ethiopianists being disillusioned with the decision.
Many observers of the politics of the region and stakeholders such as the United States and the United Nations welcomed the move and considered it a right step towards managing the multi-layered crisis in Ethiopia.
However, others, including myself, saw the move as dangerous, an attempt to hijack the popular demand for self-determination and escape accountability. These demands were empowered by the astonishing advance of the Oromo Liberation Army (OLA), capturing major towns and controlling entire districts or Ganda in Afaan Oromoo across Oromia and marching towards Finfinne from all directions.
The danger resides in the fact that this comes at a critical stage where hundreds of Oromos in the ranks and file of Oromia’s Special Forces, Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF), and the Federal Police are defecting to the OLA signals one thing and expose to those who pay attention that the price demanded from the released politicians is to quell the demand for self-determination and slow the surge OLA witnessed in terms of new recruits.
It left many with the question of how the Oromo as a collective can avoid falling into another trap of power-hungry politicians who will stop at nothing to self-serve, and break ties with the empire once and for all.
I would argue that a move away from the hope that mainstream politics in Ethiopia, an empire founded on displacing the Oromo, will offer any lasting solutions for genuine popular demands is a start. But it must be followed by an alignment with OLA and would require the OLA to be more transparent about the goals of its military campaign and its political programs.
Some would argue and I support that argument that only if the Oromo as a collective apply the aforementioned carefully and in a correct manner, can witness an Oromia (including federally administered Finfinne and Dire Dawa) that is completely out of the control of Ethiopia and will be able to unilaterally declare independence.
Oromia vis a vis Somaliland
As much as I would have preferred to compare Oromia to Kurdistan, Kosovo, and other nations living in similar conditions, I find it appropriate to do a comparison using an African example such as Somaliland which broke its union with Somalia in 1991 and has been operating as a de facto state ever since.
Somaliland despite having significant differences with Oromia in terms of political history, level of subjugation, size and diversity of the population, landscape, and economy shares a similar story of marginalization, exploitation of natural resources accompanied by a violent crackdown from the center.
Somalilanders like Oromos were ignored by the world and their pleas fall on deaf ears at the time of the civil war in Somalia. But instead of bowing down to pressure from the international community, Somalilanders thwarted their attempts to force them back into union with Mogadishu. And might I add that was achieved despite having internal problems and the elite fighting over the direction their unrecognized country should take.
Oromia, unlike Somaliland, is diverse in population, has the potential to become a middle-income economy but lacks the kind of able leadership that delivered Somaliland’s de facto independence.
I believe that in order to achieve full independence, a de facto independence, if not de jure, is a must. But a de facto independence should start with creating a disillusion in the public eye with the Ethiopian project.
Moreover, the Oromo elite need to abandon the proposed national dialogue, and their animosity towards OLA and support the OLA in its efforts to seize control of Oromia. The OLA on its part needs to be transparent about its political programs, leave space for criticism and allow itself to be represented by a vast and energetic diaspora.


Balkanizing ethiopia and having yo...drought, coup, civil war and genocides:manny:
 

convincation

My opinion>>>>
VIP
lf Ethiopia balkanises and oromia gets independence, what happens to addis? What happens to harar? What happens to dire dawa?
 

GemState

Probitas
lf Ethiopia balkanises and oromia gets independence, what happens to addis? What happens to harar? What happens to dire dawa?
This is why balkanization won't happen, it'd cause dozens of genocides over borders.

Keep in mind Syria had 20million before it imploded, Ethiopia has 115million.
 
how are you guys 40 million strong and still getting bullied in your country you make up the majority it's like if the white Americans were one's getting bullied when they make up 65% of population how does that even happen
 
how are you guys 40 million strong and still getting bullied in your country you make up the majority it's like if the white Americans were one's getting bullied when they make up 65% of population how does that even happen


we're not getting bullied by anyone else, but our own people, the same it's somali elites taking orders from the superpowers of the world/etc, to the detriment of their own somali civilians in somalia, or in ethiopia. essentially, the oromo camp is divided, the same way the somali camp is.
you have the OLF who wants to win militarily and let oromo decide their fate, you have OFC who wants a more federal ethiopia, and then you have the abiy's, the least popular but more powerful due to having access to the resources of the state, whose ambition and goals are centered around his own power and wealth.
 
lf Ethiopia balkanises and oromia gets independence, what happens to addis? What happens to harar? What happens to dire dawa?


what we need is a more decentralized form of government... everyone rules their own states, as they see fit, but meet in the middle to compromise on issues that effect us all... that is the lesser evil, when compared to all out border wars for disputed lands, it'd be oromo vs somali, somali vs afar, amhara vs oromo, amhara vs tigray, amhara vs sudan, tigray vs eritrea, etc....
 

reer

BANTUWEYNE
VIP
what we need is a more decentralized form of government... everyone rules their own states, as they see fit, but meet in the middle to compromise on issues that effect us all... that is the lesser evil, when compared to all out border wars for disputed lands, it'd be oromo vs somali, somali vs afar, amhara vs oromo, amhara vs tigray, amhara vs sudan, tigray vs eritrea, etc....
somalis would rather join somalia and be in border wars than be under ethiopian subjugation.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
somalis would rather join somalia and be in border wars than be under ethiopian subjugation.
What’s the worst that can happen, people swaps. Many countries have done it in the past.

The Somali state already has defined borders
 
Would only be a matter of time until they pull out the ak and machete and start slaughtering eachother on a tribal basis.
 
somalis would rather join somalia and be in border wars than be under ethiopian subjugation.


if there were a vote on it, and the majority voted for that, then you'd have a point.
but until then, it's just a few random dudes on a somali forum online.
 

OGx3

Beesha Washington
Ethiopia was a powerhouse before this civil war. Many Arab countries like Egypt and Sudan are working on its downfall.it’s working on the the grand renaissance dam which will provide electricity to itself and Somalia. Africans should unite and build strong countries not form small clan fiefdoms. We will be weak like our ancestors and will be colonized and abused by European and Asians again
 
Ethiopia was a powerhouse before this civil war. Many Arab countries like Egypt and Sudan are working on its downfall.it’s working on the the grand renaissance dam which will provide electricity to itself and Somalia. Africans should unite and build strong countries not form small clan fiefdoms. We will be weak like our ancestors and will be colonized and abused by European and Asians again
Forget about this africa bs, everyone should be on his own unless somalis get their territories back :francis:
 

Oromia should follow in the footsteps of Somaliland​

BY ABBA AYAAN ON 3RD FEBRUARY 2022 |
OPINION
In a predictable move, the deep state in Ethiopia released a few political prisoners that it believes will serve the purpose of saving the empire from its inevitable collapse once again.
The move included the release of some of the founding members of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) but most importantly Jawar Mohammed, Bekele Gerba, and other leaders from the Oromo Federalist Congress (OFC). The release of the Oromo politicians was met with mixed reactions, with the Oromo celebrating their release and Ethiopianists being disillusioned with the decision.
Many observers of the politics of the region and stakeholders such as the United States and the United Nations welcomed the move and considered it a right step towards managing the multi-layered crisis in Ethiopia.
However, others, including myself, saw the move as dangerous, an attempt to hijack the popular demand for self-determination and escape accountability. These demands were empowered by the astonishing advance of the Oromo Liberation Army (OLA), capturing major towns and controlling entire districts or Ganda in Afaan Oromoo across Oromia and marching towards Finfinne from all directions.
The danger resides in the fact that this comes at a critical stage where hundreds of Oromos in the ranks and file of Oromia’s Special Forces, Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF), and the Federal Police are defecting to the OLA signals one thing and expose to those who pay attention that the price demanded from the released politicians is to quell the demand for self-determination and slow the surge OLA witnessed in terms of new recruits.
It left many with the question of how the Oromo as a collective can avoid falling into another trap of power-hungry politicians who will stop at nothing to self-serve, and break ties with the empire once and for all.
I would argue that a move away from the hope that mainstream politics in Ethiopia, an empire founded on displacing the Oromo, will offer any lasting solutions for genuine popular demands is a start. But it must be followed by an alignment with OLA and would require the OLA to be more transparent about the goals of its military campaign and its political programs.
Some would argue and I support that argument that only if the Oromo as a collective apply the aforementioned carefully and in a correct manner, can witness an Oromia (including federally administered Finfinne and Dire Dawa) that is completely out of the control of Ethiopia and will be able to unilaterally declare independence.
Oromia vis a vis Somaliland
As much as I would have preferred to compare Oromia to Kurdistan, Kosovo, and other nations living in similar conditions, I find it appropriate to do a comparison using an African example such as Somaliland which broke its union with Somalia in 1991 and has been operating as a de facto state ever since.
Somaliland despite having significant differences with Oromia in terms of political history, level of subjugation, size and diversity of the population, landscape, and economy shares a similar story of marginalization, exploitation of natural resources accompanied by a violent crackdown from the center.
Somalilanders like Oromos were ignored by the world and their pleas fall on deaf ears at the time of the civil war in Somalia. But instead of bowing down to pressure from the international community, Somalilanders thwarted their attempts to force them back into union with Mogadishu. And might I add that was achieved despite having internal problems and the elite fighting over the direction their unrecognized country should take.
Oromia, unlike Somaliland, is diverse in population, has the potential to become a middle-income economy but lacks the kind of able leadership that delivered Somaliland’s de facto independence.
I believe that in order to achieve full independence, a de facto independence, if not de jure, is a must. But a de facto independence should start with creating a disillusion in the public eye with the Ethiopian project.
Moreover, the Oromo elite need to abandon the proposed national dialogue, and their animosity towards OLA and support the OLA in its efforts to seize control of Oromia. The OLA on its part needs to be transparent about its political programs, leave space for criticism and allow itself to be represented by a vast and energetic diaspora.



Somaliland made a mistake in 1991. Dont copy JSL. As the only functioning governent in the Somali Republic, they should have claimed to be the successors to the dictatorship and find enough Somalia Italiana allies go have more credibility as the new central governmet

Qoti also have another reason not to relegate themselves to isolationism like Somaliland. Addis Ababa or Finfinnee is in Qotiland state. If Qotis can control Oromia then that means they control Xabashitan's capital and if you have the capital you are the new central government.

A better compatirson for Qoti would be Muqdisho community. The Muqdisho/GM/HS/ community only have 20% of Somalia Italiana senate while Jabartis have have 30% of the senate and MrCheese has been siccing police on Muqdisho protestors for the last 5 years. Stop having Qoti leaders who betray Qoti interests
 

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