Shabaab aligned clan militias have press conference in Cowsweyne

[bidenkulaha]

Hayey, only solution to this is release the tap on strikes.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

no, the only solution is to launch a counter offensive and behead each and every one of these elders as a warning to others.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Are the locals and their elders still supporting AS?!?! Lost people indeed

 

[Avalanche]

Kill them all at this point

 

[mohamedismail]

People will say Al shabaab is majority Raxanweyn and Madowweyne have they seen this?

 

[GaradShabeel]

People will say Al shabaab is majority Raxanweyn and Madowweyne have they seen this?

I think they oftentimes 'mix up' between AS foot soldiers and actual local AS supporters.

 

[mohamedismail]

I think they oftentimes 'mix up' between AS foot soldiers and actual local AS supporters.

They place too much importance on the foot soldiers forgetting the leaders of shabaab are from their own subclans.

Biggest shabaab supporting clans are non Raxanweyn /Madowweyne

 

[GaradShabeel]

They place too much importance on the foot soldiers forgetting the leaders of shabaab are from their own subclans.

Biggest shabaab supporting clans are non Raxanweyn /Madowweyne

The current liberation efforts are exposing the truths for all clans.

If an area is liberated but the locals leave after AS is defeated and the locals together with their elders, and clan militias end up launching attack on 'freed' land, then is says more about the amount of support AS has than failure in military strategies, even though it has a big impact too.

With that said, it's sad that they've been brainwashed to the point of 'blindly' supporting AS in 2023.

 

[mohamedismail]

The current liberation efforts are exposing the truths for all clans.

If an area is liberated but the locals leave after AS is defeated and the locals together with their elders, and clan militias end up launching attack on 'freed' land, then is says more about the amount of support AS has than failure in military strategies, even though it has a big impact too.

It's sad that they've been brainwashed to the point of 'blindly' supporting AS in 2023.

This will probably be the hardest issue to deal with post shabaab liberation.

 

[bidenkulaha]

The current liberation efforts are exposing the truths for all clans.

If an area is liberated but the locals leave after AS is defeated and the locals together with their elders, and clan militias end up launching attack on 'freed' land, then is says more about the support for AS than failure in military strategies, even though it has a big impact too.

It's sad that they've been brainwashed to the point of 'blindly' supporting AS in 2023.

Somalia has no airforce. Imagine a world where Shabaab is attacking a base with 6 VBIEDs and you had the opportunity to consistently bomb them whenever they even near your base. Shabaab’s ability to attack military bases would be destroyed overnight.

Which is the only reason they currently survive. They never fight the SNA when it’s on an offensive. But instead attack when SNA is in a defensive position and becomes inmobile.

Man a lot would change if this arms embargo was lifted.

But it’s good we’re forced to adapt and reform in the meantime. We still have command structure problems and need to learn from our mistakes

 

[GaradShabeel]

Somalia has no airforce. Imagine a world where Shabaab is attacking a base with 6 VBIEDs and you had the opportunity to consistently bomb them whenever they even near your base. Shabaab’s ability to attack military bases would be destroyed overnight.

Which is the only reason they currently survive. They never fight the SNA when it’s on an offensive. But instead attack when SNA is in a defensive position and becomes inmobile.

Man a lot would change if this arms embargo was lifted.

But it’s good we’re forced to adapt and reform in the meantime. We still have command structure problems and need to learn from our mistakes

I thought that there were some drone support via Turkey? I think I've even seen the Americans do an offensive drone attack recently. But yeah, air support would provide lots of support for ground troops and decimate all of AS capabilities very quickly. Too bad that it's causing many losses in the meanwhile.

 

[GaradShabeel]

This will probably be the hardest issue to deal with post shabaab liberation.

As much as you fight them on the ground, their ideology will persist.

Look at Syria post Daesh. They've managed to penetrate the anti-Daesh coalition to the point of establishing land resurgence in some areas. All thanks to local/foreign support on the ground.

They amount of AS support I've seen on social media is crazy. And most of them came from those living outside of AS held land. I have no idea how to combat these people. Even worse will be those who're going to surrender until the last point. They need to be kept isolated from everyone else as they will pose a great threat to the public.

 

[mohamedismail]

As much as you fight them on the ground, their ideology will persist.

Look at Syria post Daesh. They've managed to penetrate the anti-Daesh coalition to the point of establishing land resurgence in some areas. All thanks to local/foreign support on the ground.

They amount of AS support I've seen on social media is crazy. And most of them came from those living outside of AS held land. I have no idea how to combat these people. Even worse will be those who're going to surrender until the last point. They need to be kept isolated from everyone else as they will pose a great threat to the public.

There needs to be a massive anti radicalisation in Somalia after militarily defeating shabaab.

Also the oppression needs to stop. Most clans that are pro shabaab are ones who feel like they have been sidelined politically or oppressed in other ways.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

There needs to be a massive anti radicalisation in Somalia after militarily defeating shabaab.

Also the oppression needs to stop. Most clans that are pro shabaab are ones who feel like they have been sidelined politically or oppressed in other ways.

simple trenches and garrisons combined with snipers and machie gun nests is more than enough to get rid of any shabaab attacks.

 

[GaradShabeel]

There needs to be a massive anti radicalisation in Somalia after militarily defeating shabaab.

Also the oppression needs to stop. Most clans that are pro shabaab are ones who feel like they have been sidelined politically or oppressed in other ways.

The anti-radicalization will be more impactful in the short-term.

The oppression aspect, there're are two factors, locals clans 'oppressing' another clan (such as dhul boob) and then other using local/state/federal means to take advantage of another clan, be it politically, military, financially etc.

The first aspect can be solved through establishing strong institutions dealing with those who aren't law abiding. However, you can forget about the other aspect of clans using state means to push their interest. I don't think this will end anytime soon.

 

[Dima&Damo]

The south teems with radicals

Move the capital right now

We from the valley know how to deal with extremist (godobjiran 2015)

 

[Deejay]

As much as you fight them on the ground, their ideology will persist.

Look at Syria post Daesh. They've managed to penetrate the anti-Daesh coalition to the point of establishing land resurgence in some areas. All thanks to local/foreign support on the ground.

They amount of AS support I've seen on social media is crazy. And most of them came from those living outside of AS held land. I have no idea how to combat these people. Even worse will be those who're going to surrender until the last point. They need to be kept isolated from everyone else as they will pose a great threat to the public.

Syria was saved by the russians, they bombed the daesh to dust. Ironically the leftist push in america against the usage of drones strikes has made sure it is now limited only to U.S. led combat missions or forces trained (and ran) by the U.S. like danab being given close air support. The SNA isn't fighting a conventional fighting force here, they're fighting psychotic khawaarij that do not mind blowing themselves up.

Best way to deal with them is air strike their convoys and make it hard for them to move so that the ground forces can come in mop em up. I don't see why people are going so hard on the locals when the SNA retreated so fast after just one setback, if they had sided with the SNA prematurely then they'd be getting executed today.