Saudi more feminist than japan


Just goes to show, you can't be modern society when half your population is being held back. A lesson for backwards countries like somali & Afghanistan.
 

Shimbiris

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Forced conservatism doesn't really work, especially amongst the youth. Think of the Ulema or Shaykhs as the parents, the state as a household and the citizens as children. I'm sorry to say but human beings are awfully predictable a lot of the time and when you keep anally forbidding a child everything you're just making way for temptation, perversions and repression.

The result are underground clubs, parties, bootleg liquor, underground gay clubs, rampant homosexuality to release the energy they'd give to the opposite sex if they could and absolutely brain-dead pro-western political takes and self-hatred clouded by the fact that they hate their controlling regimes. It's a shit-show, folks. Best to leave people be, enshrine the deen publicly and just have decent Islamic studies courses in schools and ban outward degeneracy the way the Gulf states do. No public drunkenness, no PDA etc.

Saudi and Iran have tried this experiment for us. It doesn't work, at least in the cities.
 

Omar del Sur

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Forced conservatism doesn't really work, especially amongst the youth. Think of the Ulema or Shaykhs as the parents, the state as a household and the citizens as children. I'm sorry to say but human beings are awfully predictable a lot of the time and when you keep anally forbidding a child everything you're just making way for temptation, perversions and repression.

The result are underground clubs, parties, bootleg liquor, underground gay clubs, rampant homosexuality to release the energy they'd give to the opposite sex if they could and absolutely brain-dead pro-western political takes and self-hatred clouded by the fact that they hate their controlling regimes. It's a shit-show, folks. Best to leave people be, enshrine the deen publicly and just have decent Islamic studies courses in schools and ban outward degeneracy the way the Gulf states do. No public drunkenness, no PDA etc.

Saudi and Iran have tried this experiment for us. It doesn't work, at least in the cities.



look at what the Sheikh says here. if what you are saying here is correct, how come Islam doesn't say it? did Prophet Muhammad ﷺ forget did to tell us this???

what you're saying is not in the Quran and Sunnah. instead of what you're teaching, people should follow Quran and Sunnah instead.

also- in Saudi and in many of these conservative countries, to my understanding, people are marrying late.

Islam promotes marrying early. If you make it so people aren't getting married until their late twenties, are they just going to be monks until then????? no, this is going to lead to all kinds of problems. that's why people are supposed to get married early. but it's because of people not following Islam that there is this problem.

look at India. they have a very conservative culture but now they are getting married later. and everyone knows about the sort of problems they're having. following Islam works and it's worked for over 1,400 years. Muslims should follow Quran and Sunnah, Islams says "enjoin the good and forbid the evil", not what you are saying.
 

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also, wasn't Saudi very conservative for the past.... 1,400 years basically? they were very conservative all that time, I think it is only recently that there is this issue of them turning more liberal. it likely has to do with influence of the West. and also that Saudi has gotten more affluent. this tends to happen with affluence. so the issue isn't following what Islam says, there are other factors at play. whatever happens there isn't proof against what Islam teaches.

I want to mention as well- look at the most degenerate societies, in the West. the people in the West aren't rebelling against conservative upbringings.
 

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