Salebaan Gaal Daughter In PL

[DR OSMAN]

https://www.puntlandi.com/?p=13497

 

[DR OSMAN]

I am not sure why Somalis take 'faysal ali waraabe' serious. His 'ciidagaale' u know what that means in Somali language? it means beeshisa 'ciida galeen' so nin ka soo jeedo 'odayaal' beeshisa ciida la galay inay wax ka dhegaystan waa ayaan daro runti inaad wax ka baratan khasaarahooda tarikheed bay ahayd so it doesn't happen to u. But I give props to SL, they never elect that guy, his there for comedy sakes.

Imagine Arabs started to learn from 'Thamud iyo ad people' that's like Ciidagaale, your learning from someone hanan wayay beeshisa so he has no right to speak about other CLAN MATTERS other then to tell us his 'disastrous' clan history and how to avoid such conclusions for our own clans, wax kale inu ku soo darsado sheekada ma ahayn. Why u think @Cognitivedissonance keeps hassling me about fleeing nugaal, he wants to learn about what WE MASTERED in history? imagine how he wud treat a clan named 'ciidagaale' that must of been way more disastrous then Bah Dubays.

For example my lineage Bah Dubays lost 3 jilibs in a war against Boqorka before Boqor Osman. We only have 2 jilibs alive, we learned our lesson, we do not go around today like this 'ciidagale' guy on TV, acting like has some fabolous solution. We work on our internal matters to ensure the success of beesheena manta, we don't even like to get involved into PL politics at all.

 

[FBIsomalia]

She is beautiful.

 

[DR OSMAN]

She is beautiful.

See how different our cultures are in PL and Somalia. Not only do we not have a shared tribal law, we have different mindset in life about politics, economics, future direction and even women beauty. My awoowe used to say 'gabar hanti weeye, wiil wa magac' he wud laugh and qosol when his daughter married a rich man, this meant higher bride price into his household.

Where-as when a Man married, he saw them as 'lost investment' as he would lose 'camels' to the girl family. Look u judge by 'facial beauty' we judge by 'strategic' marriages to 'power and wealth' so we pass onto our kids 'dhaxal' ay ka bilabaan noolasha. At the end of the day, it's about POWER and Wealth and not BEAUTY which 'ages' away.

That's quite different our mindsets @FBIsomalia u will judge your son wife on her skin color, i will judge her on her 'wealth class' and if his marrying someone that he can build something bigger with. Like my awoowe said 'gabar wa hanti not gabar wa qurux, wiil wa magac' Meaning put to use our resources for the betterment of our family and over-all clan in the end.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I am calling for an END to Somalinimo, I hope the stalemate continues with no legalized agreement till the 1980 western born kids return to PL with no historical bias and just pure 'reason and formulas' applied to any problem. We will not have an 'inkling' of bias for the past since we never saw it, yes we will be careful to 'listen' about the past so we don't repeat it unlike 'khayre' who is trying to 'repeat' the past with centralism. But we will also have pure scientific mindset to Somali problems. No more my opinion vs yours, no more my qabil vs yours, just put under an agreed formula and whatever the result is the solution and if u don't accept that, we will put a clause this will lead to 'disintegration' of Somalia and we begin divorce proceedings. U can't live in a state that rejects 'reason and science' that is objective and not subjective.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I can already picture my generation starting the 'shir somaliyeed'. It will start with 3 options.

1. Military(I will advice Darod to take our galgaduud nomadic areas) settle them down. Now your the king of MIYI and force of the nation, the rest are SETTLED and the most they can do is 'criminal acts' which we can fix in seconds with 'disarmament' cutting airport/port supplies of contrabands and monitoring of checkpoints. This solution I think is the best and quickest if you want to achieve a Somali state.
2. Poltiical(scientific model only allowed) in this solution not OPINIONS but OBJECTIVE proof not Subjective.
3. Separation. We decide on our new borders as new nations. If we can't agree on no 1 or 2, we must separate from each other is the last solution. This is WHERE old Somalis have 'fears' the new Somalis will not have fears 'oman' lives just quite fine independent and under a million people.

Reminding the attendees, no solution and stalemate is unacceptable and only the above 3 will be 'applied' after you gather your evidences and complaints. We will provide a measurement technique on 'complaints' irrespective of what clan or time period. The first phase is historical, we will come to an agreement what caused the civil war in Somalia. Then agree on do 'repeat' the same mechanism that caused the civil war? once we agree. We move on. What state do we want? The problem with Somali meetings ma jiro 'mechanism' it's like 'cafe' style meeting oo laysku keenayo fikrado and it ends in cafe style meeting no solution. If u want a solution u need measurement technique that people agree before u ask for opinions u then measure which one is the highest score.

 

[Abdalla]

She is at the PDRC center. The former director, Shuuke, was the minister of education and her dad was his deputy minister. That explains her arrival.

She seems like a reasonable lady, and clearly raised by her white English mother. If Saleebaan Gaal raised her, she'd be stationed in ceelafweyn with a daabojeex.

God Bless Puntland, and good luck to Zeynab with her honourable project. The salty eydoors are already insulting her in the comments and saying she is searching for a D, wal ciyaadubillah

 

[DR OSMAN]

The Old Majerten culture was about PURE SURVIVAL hence why all their party included 'badbaado' or something along that lines, because many clans used to passed away with bad 'talo' from their ''elders' like 'ciidagaale' but there is heaps of those clans in PL also like 'hantiile' or countless clans, how do I know? well we reached that stage. Bah Dubays my clan is far different to clans who 'made strategic' errors in the past. We moved our asses to a new land in nugaal and 'restarted' from scratch and never causing a problem again, we don't sit there boasting about 'khasaaro' nagu dhacay like hawiye or isaaq. We made a real big change in our lives and established 'order' and 'elder'.

We move to Nugaal with 13 males ka waran our elderly are still alive to speak about it, intas uun ba naga hartay dagaaladi boqortoyada. 13 males means probably 20 families or something as some had 2 wives possibly. Imagine moving from your homeland 200 years ago with 13 males and 20 families to start over again, I really find this part of our history interesting. Not only did we flee, many clans fled in PL. Ali saleban, issa mahmouds what u think their doing in kismaayo or oman? warsangeli in arabia. There was a very barbaric kingdom in bari back in those days before boqor OSMAN. It was a mentality of 'strongest man leads' environment. Infact the warsangeli wars before us, cuz the first clan to attack the boqor was warsangeli. There was this massive war called duubya xiir, where they were chained by the ankles and every male head cut off. That's genocide not 'dagaal'. That's how the kings were before, if u messed around, u wud PERISH forever unless u FLED of course.

 

[SilentE1001]

You're high bruv, all this political crap doesn't really matter.

Somalis will always see each other as brothers n sisters and will work together regardless.

 

[DR OSMAN]

She is at the PDRC center. The former director, Shuuke, was the minister of education and her dad was his deputy minister. That explains her arrival.

She seems like a reasonable lady, and clearly raised by her white English mother. If Saleebaan Gaal raised her, she'd be stationed in ceelafweyn with a daabojeex.

God Bless Puntland, and good luck to Zeynab with her honourable project. The salty eydoors are already insulting her in the comments and saying she is searching for a D, wal ciyaadubillah

That makes no sense, how can her dad be shuke deputy minister? are u saying Salebaan Gaal the somaliland gurti leader is a deputy minister of PDRC? I hope I understood u wrong or did u take some 1D00R leaf again cause that's the sort fo reasoning skills u see from that part of the nation

 

[Finesse]

Well done to her, we welcome every opportunity for development, education and investment as long as there are no nefarious agendas.

 

[Bohol]

It is a project funded by a NGO called educationcannotwait https://www.educationcannotwait.org/ for entire Somalia (including Somaliland region).

 

[DR OSMAN]

It is a project funded by a NGO called educationcannotwait https://www.educationcannotwait.org/ for entire Somalia (including Somaliland region).

The point is 'faysal' kids are mess. They got killed in Iraq or something. They couldn't make it in life with a skill or cut the mustard in society so they used the 'god' card, pathetic really while his old man uses the 'clan card'. That's the point of the article I think. Stop advising Somalis when ur own family is train wreck is the message to DHURWA. But I notice Puntlandi took another 'swipe' at SL. He said one minute your digging mass graves and talking about capturing garowe, next minute ur sending your kids to work in puntland as chefs, cooks, and waiters.

This is true. PL has a heirachy. Rahanwayn are the small time traders on consumables(largest percentage of this small time trade is them now). Madow are majority construction workers and repair guys. Oromo are 'barbers and cleaners like maids'. Isaaq are majority cooks, waiters, chefs but in the restaurant field.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The Restaurant game ain't bad, my aunty owes one in Garowe(diaspora) though. She parked outside govt sectors and giving them breakfast, lunch, dinner, clears $100 a day after paying her cooks and cleaners and general bills like 'gas' and 'food items'.

Plus has a house on 'rent' to diaspora minister for $500 a month. I know one of my other uncles works as 'surveyor' for Garowe, clears $300 a month but that's not including 'tips' he gets from diaspora to speed up his application process. Probably 1k a month if u average it out. Average MJ don't work in the sectors rahanwayn-isaaq-Madow-oromo work in, I can VOUCH FOR THIS. Plus the amount of remittance from diaspora I think is dropping since many are returning home and realizing 'dadkani ma liito and used to RIP US OFF'. I know we hardly send a cent to our family in garowe except when there is a certain 'event' in life.

 

[Crow]

She is at the PDRC center. The former director, Shuuke, was the minister of education and her dad was his deputy minister. That explains her arrival.

Saleeban Gaal held some kind of director position in the teaching department in Mogadishu (number 2 position). I don't know if he was number 2 for the whole department or just that one office. My uncle was a teacher and went to his office and asked him to be transferred to another school. He was a Christian Isaaq which explains his cadaan wife.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Saleeban Gaal held some kind of director position in the teaching department in Mogadishu (number 2 position). I don't know if he was number 2 for the whole department or just that one office. My uncle was a teacher and went to his office and asked him to be transferred to another school. He was a Christian Isaaq which explains his cadaan wife.

Same wallahi. My father was a diplomat and asked to be transferred from his post or the ambassador REMOVED who was an 'ciidagaale' no wisdom, no understanding of global nor local politics, didn't know negiotation skills, what the hell is he doing here? We are trying to facilitate Somali students who come here and the guy just thinks that politics is all 'tribal'. He simply didn't belong in that position cuz of siyad barre damn 'somali waa siman tahay' nonsense, we ended up with losers in charge of the nation and I think this led to QABYALAD in the end and for jabhad to begin. God never said we are equal, who are u to say we are equal god dammit SIYAD went against some of the religious wisdom.

 

[Juuqbuuqluuq]

She is at the PDRC center. The former director, Shuuke, was the minister of education and her dad was his deputy minister. That explains her arrival.

She seems like a reasonable lady, and clearly raised by her white English mother. If Saleebaan Gaal raised her, she'd be stationed in ceelafweyn with a daabojeex.

God Bless Puntland, and good luck to Zeynab with her honourable project. The salty eydoors are already insulting her in the comments and saying she is searching for a D, wal ciyaadubillah

Why lie? All hate comments there are from you Somolians