Saddam Hussein would have changed the Middle East forever

Saddam had industrialized Iraq nationalized its oil, wanted to remove all foreign bases from the Middle East he wanted that for all Arab countries, Saddam is the most lied upon and hated politician in Middle East history this man was no ally of the west. Saddam famously said “Iran’s influence will reach the Maghreb if Iraq is weak”.
 

GemState

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Saddam, similar to Gaddafi was a retard.

The only hope for the Middle East was a world where the Ottomans survived and administered the region with an iron fist. After Germany lost in WW1, it was a wrap for them.
 
Saddam, similar to Gaddafi was a retard.

The only hope for the Middle East was a world where the Ottomans survived and administered the region with an iron fist. After Germany lost in WW1, it was a wrap for them.
I understand saying Gaddafi was retarded, but why Saddam? I’m not the biggest fan of Saddam but he accomplished a lot for his people while having to overcome considerable obstacles
 

reer

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Saddam, similar to Gaddafi was a retard.

The only hope for the Middle East was a world where the Ottomans survived and administered the region with an iron fist. After Germany lost in WW1, it was a wrap for them.
lol. saddam had a decent fighting force against iran while also coup proofing himself and also defeating internal rebels. he was sanctioned into oblivion and still managed to fend off iran.
 
I understand saying Gaddafi was retarded, but why Saddam? I’m not the biggest fan of Saddam but he accomplished a lot for his people while having to overcome considerable obstacles

Ultimately, he caused his own demise. Which he deserved. He should've sticked to Iraq only and caused less bloodshed :manny:
 
Ultimately, he caused his own demise. Which he deserved. He should've sticked to Iraq only and caused less bloodshed :manny:
Yea he definitely caused his own downfall but I understand why he attacked Iran. Iraq is a Shia majority country, and the mullahs in Iran were trying to use religion to destabilize Iraq

Saddam was in a tough position and so he had to fight them. You see what Iran is doing now with Shia militias across the Middle East

The Kuwaitis were wrong for ignoring the OPEC quotas and increasing oil production. But Saddam should’ve solved this through diplomatic means and not war. Invading Kuwait was a death wish that ultimately cost him everything
 
Saddam, similar to Gaddafi was a retard.

The only hope for the Middle East was a world where the Ottomans survived and administered the region with an iron fist. After Germany lost in WW1, it was a wrap for them.
Even without WW1, there is no way for the Ottomans to continue surviving since they were so weak and poor at that point. Britain and maybe even France would still finance rebel groups
 
Saddam was stupid. I mean, why occupy another country when you just got out of the war with Iran? But it was foolish for the Gulf states to allow the American invasion of Iraq. Iran has penetrated the region. Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and Iraq have become a divided sectarian state, all of which are Iranian arms, and they all pose an existential threat to the Gulf states.
 

GemState

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lol. saddam had a decent fighting force against iran while also coup proofing himself and also defeating internal rebels. he was sanctioned into oblivion and still managed to fend off iran.
He didn't need to turn Iraq into a mess. It could have been a standard pro-West Arab state like GCC or Jordan instead of psuedo-republican qashin.
 

GemState

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Even without WW1, there is no way for the Ottomans to continue surviving since they were so weak and poor at that point. Britain and maybe even France would still finance rebel groups
If Central Powers wins WW1, they'd probably still survive. There'd be arab rebel groups, but they'd be like the PKK and not really threaten the state.
 
The major flaw made by Gaddafi, Saddam, and Said Barre ( many other as well) was their centralisation of all power under their thumb. Consequently, the removal of them from power have resulted in the complete downfall of the entire system. Opening a vacuum easily exploitable.
 
Saddam was a nepotistic figure. He had all he's family in high government positions. Search up the Anfal campaign and what he did to the Kurds. He also neglected the Shia community in government position even though they were the majority of the country. He started a Useless war against Kuwait. Saddam was a charismatic figure who had good ways with he's word it's crazy that people still view him as a great man. People compare him with Gaddafi when they were nothing alike. Gaddafi was smart dictator Saddam was just a big brute
 
Yea he definitely caused his own downfall but I understand why he attacked Iran. Iraq is a Shia majority country, and the mullahs in Iran were trying to use religion to destabilize Iraq

Saddam was in a tough position and so he had to fight them. You see what Iran is doing now with Shia militias across the Middle East
Iran was provoking Iraq khomeini even said Saddam is a gaal and his kuffar regime needs to be toppled the Iran, Iraq war is one of the biggest lies by the west Israel even supported Iran and the US, Iran contra affair. GCC countries where also supporting and financing Iran.
The Kuwaitis were wrong for ignoring the OPEC quotas and increasing oil production. But Saddam should’ve solved this through diplomatic means and not war. Invading Kuwait was a death wish that ultimately cost him everything
Kuwaitis where also drilling inside Iraq Saddam was a threat to British/America hegemony in the Middle East. Saddam was also a threat to Israel’s security they took out his nuclear facility for a reason.
 
Saddam was a nepotistic figure. He had all he's family in high government positions. Search up the Anfal campaign and what he did to the Kurds. He also neglected the Shia community in government position even though they were the majority of the country. He started a Useless war against Kuwait. Saddam was a charismatic figure who had good ways with he's word it's crazy that people still view him as a great man. People compare him with Gaddafi when they were nothing alike. Gaddafi was smart dictator Saddam was just a big brute
Saddam didn’t gas the Kurds it was the Iranians CIA even said it read this.
https://www.docdroid.net/uDGUayg/anfal-pdf
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Iran was provoking Iraq khomeini even said Saddam is a gaal and his kuffar regime needs to be toppled the Iran, Iraq war is one of the biggest lies by the west Israel even supported Iran and the US, Iran contra affair. GCC countries where also supporting and financing Iran.

Kuwaitis where also drilling inside Iraq Saddam was a threat to British/America hegemony in the Middle East. Saddam was also a threat to Israel’s security they took out his nuclear facility for a reason.
If that's true then that is a big change to now where Iran is funding militas like Hezbollah and Houthis to fight Israel rather successfully
 
Iran was provoking Iraq khomeini even said Saddam is a gaal and his kuffar regime needs to be toppled the Iran, Iraq war is one of the biggest lies by the west Israel even supported Iran and the US, Iran contra affair. GCC countries where also supporting and financing Iran.
Exactly. Iran was provoking them even when the shah was in power. Using the Mullah’s to gain influence over the local Shia population is something the Iranian government has been doing for a very long time
Kuwaitis where also drilling inside Iraq Saddam was a threat to British/America hegemony in the Middle East. Saddam was also a threat to Israel’s security they took out his nuclear facility for a reason.
Saddam should’ve never invalided Kuwait. Saddam said he had evidence of Kuwait slant drilling, so he could’ve used diplomatic measures to pressure Kuwait

KSA was also on his side at the time because they were upset that Kuwait and the UAE were exceeding the OPEC oil quotas, pushing the price of oil down in the process

He should’ve known that Kuwait is the west’s favorite country in the GCC, and when you’re the favorite country of the west they’ll defend you even when you’re wrong. You mention Israel’s attack on the Iraqi nuclear facility, that is a perfect example of the west defending their allies in the region even when they’re wrong

Saddam was working with the French to develop a nuclear facility that wasn’t even going to be used to be developed weapons but the Israelis still destroyed it. they were condemned but were never punished
 

Nin123

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Saddam, similar to Gaddafi was a retard.

The only hope for the Middle East was a world where the Ottomans survived and administered the region with an iron fist. After Germany lost in WW1, it was a wrap for them.
Only smartest Arab ruler are Arabian peninsula countries excluding Yemen. They ruled them for the longest.
 
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