Replicating The French Revolution in Somalia

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
The French Revolution brought France from decline into becoming the most powerful European state in early 1800s under Napolean.
It changed Europe and set the road for modern states as well spreading liberal ideas across the continent as well as secularism.

Should we replicate it and instead of adopting secular and liberal ideas, we reform our Islamic understanding and the establishment of Af Somali in Islamic texts, a new astronomical Lunar calendar, the building of a new holy city (Hajj is still wajib) dedicated to Allah swt which has never been done along with a grand masjid which should be largest in the world and a wonder for the ages to come
 

XamarWeeaboo

You expected something here didn't you?!?!?
We did replicate it in 1991, over threw Barre. However after that, the curse of the 68 IQ kicked in and we fucked up the rest of the process:
- None from the administration was executed
- No new government formed
- No one was willing to work together or give up a little for a permanent Somalia

Unfortunately, the West and bantus are willing and ready to push us into another "revolution". And I guarantee you that this time no one will help us- not even Allah.
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
We did replicate it in 1991, over threw Barre. However after that, the curse of the 68 IQ kicked in and we fucked up the rest of the process:
- None from the administration was executed
- No new government formed
- No one was willing to work together or give up a little for a permanent Somalia

Unfortunately, the West and bantus are willing and ready to push us into another "revolution". And I guarantee you that this time no one will help us- not even Allah.
The different is that with the French, the instigators were ideologically driven and were nationalists.

With us, there was no plan and no belief behind the revolution. Revolution must first start in the mind before it can manifest in reality
 

Diaspora ambassador

Representative of Bari
We could make a sport out of killing al shabaab. The clan who kills the most will be the champion of the quest. It will boost the national co-operation of the young and will actually stablize the south. While other "safe" cities can develop and kickstart the national economy. Whatcha guys think?
 

Yonis

Puntland Youth Organiser
FKD Visionary
VIP
The French Revolution brought France from decline into becoming the most powerful European state in early 1800s under Napolean.

False. France was nothing more than a corrupt military dictatorship under Napoleon, it was actually during the 1700s that France became the wealthiest country in Europe (And the world). The byproduct of the French Revolution was liberation for the Jewish money changers who gradually enslaved post-revolution france through compound-interest and debt-slavery
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
We could make a sport out of killing al shabaab. The clan who kills the most will be the champion of the quest. It will boost the national co-operation of the young and will actually stablize the south. While other "safe" cities can develop and kickstart the national economy. Whatcha guys think?
Who will verify whether someone is part of Al Shabaab? If you attack your rival's training camp can you claim that they were Al Shabaab?

Would've been fun but it'll end up in a genocide.
 

Basra

LOVE is none smelly Dhuuso.
Let Them Eat Cake
VIP
The French Revolution brought France from decline into becoming the most powerful European state in early 1800s under Napolean.
It changed Europe and set the road for modern states as well spreading liberal ideas across the continent as well as secularism.

Should we replicate it and instead of adopting secular and liberal ideas, we reform our Islamic understanding and the establishment of Af Somali in Islamic texts, a new astronomical Lunar calendar, the building of a new holy city (Hajj is still wajib) dedicated to Allah swt which has never been done along with a grand masjid which should be largest in the world and a wonder for the ages to come

It is an interesting concept. Islam should unite Somalis, but u forget Somalis are tribalist first and Muslims second. U have the south people with their red eyes killing in the name of tribal affiliation and u have the North people with their red teeth cursing blasphemously as "Diintaadi waas"


We iz basically screwed!
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
The only way this could work is a revolution contained within states.

You might think your people control the state government but let's be real... it's controlled by foreigners just like FGS.

If a group of well meaning Puntites take over Puntland then I could easily see them govern it much better than the current foreign owned institution behind the Puntland government.

27 years without any decent development? I doubt those governments were genuinely working for Puntlanders.

Same with the other states.

Only if interests are aligned in a single state could you come together to build a constitution.

We aren't inherently chaotic it's just that all of Somalis don't have the same interests shared across states.

Heard this on the Joe Rogan, Naval recent interview.

With family I'm a communist.

With friends I'm a socialist

In my city I'm a democrat.

In my state I'm a Republican.

At a Federal level I'm a libertarian.


Seems like a revolution in every state is the only solution to our predicament since I don't see how foreign controlled elections will give us our sovereignty back.
 

Basra

LOVE is none smelly Dhuuso.
Let Them Eat Cake
VIP
Moreover..........


French Revolution is unique to France only. At the time of the revolution, France was not a parliamentary governess. The bourbon royal family & the aristocrats ruled with iron fist. They believed they were God divined as did the British Royal, except the Brits went through their revolution during Charles the 1st, followed by a bloody civil war. The introduction of Parliament and systems check saved the English from experiencing a French revolution carnage.

At the core of the French revolution, lay a necessity for a re-birth of a new government. Napoleon wanted to become a pseudo King, but called it a different name: Emperor. Thats why he was not successful either.
 

Diaspora ambassador

Representative of Bari
Who will verify whether someone is part of Al Shabaab? If you attack your rival's training camp can you claim that they were Al Shabaab?

Would've been fun but it'll end up in a genocide.
Well before the hunt starts we need to verify each hunty. And after that let the great hunt begin!!
 

VixR

Veritas
Revolutions require a relatively educated populace (hence why they’re usually started by students, ie, Tiananmen Square (China), Tahriir Square (Egypt), and many Latin revolutions I can’t remember for their names rn), OR to be operated by an intelligentsia who lead the “peasant” masses who’re prone to putting their circumstances on God vs. holding their leaders accountable.
We did replicate it in 1991, over threw Barre. However after that, the curse of the 68 IQ kicked in and we fucked up the rest of the process:
- None from the administration was executed
- No new government formed
- No one was willing to work together or give up a little for a permanent Somalia

Unfortunately, the West and bantus are willing and ready to push us into another "revolution". And I guarantee you that this time no one will help us- not even Allah.
There’s a historic trend of revolutionaries being horrible leaders, but they don’t ever give up the power to someone more suitable to LEAD (they’re just good at the REVOLT end). Expert dismantling and building/leading require radically different skill sets.
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
The French Revolution brought France from decline into becoming the most powerful European state in early 1800s under Napolean.

False. France was nothing more than a corrupt military dictatorship under Napoleon, it was actually during the 1700s that France became the wealthiest country in Europe (And the world). The byproduct of the French Revolution was liberation for the Jewish money changers who gradually enslaved post-revolution france through compound-interest and debt-slavery
The Military reforms of Napolean is the standard today. How can he run the most powerful European state and have rampant corruption?
 

Tukraq

VIP
huuutuus already planning a revolution on failmaajo like his uncle:drakelaugh::chrisfreshhah: this time under the banner of deen :mjlol: what can I say history may repeat itself
 
Can't happen because of globalism. External forces would corrupt the process.
I was gonna say the same thing, globalism ruined everything :bell: the Europeans had their fun expanding empires and world domination and when they were bored they stifled it for us Stone Age Africans and made it impossible :jcoleno: now it’s too late
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
It is an interesting concept. Islam should unite Somalis, but u forget Somalis are tribalist first and Muslims second. U have the south people with their red eyes killing in the name of tribal affiliation and u have the North people with their red teeth cursing blasphemously as "Diintaadi waas"


We iz basically screwed!
It would require educated Somali diaspora to manage and guide it. Only real tribalists are people back home. Also to deal with tribalism, there should be an agreement before hand on what happens after and to stick to that agreement
 

Tukraq

VIP
It would require educated Somali diaspora to manage and guide it. Only real tribalists are people back home. Also to deal with tribalism, there should be an agreement before hand on what happens after and to stick to that agreement
why would those back home want to accept the foreigners from the diaspora to change their tribal social structure:mjlol:
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
The only way this could work is a revolution contained within states.

You might think your people control the state government but let's be real... it's controlled by foreigners just like FGS.

If a group of well meaning Puntites take over Puntland then I could easily see them govern it much better than the current foreign owned institution behind the Puntland government.

27 years without any decent development? I doubt those governments were genuinely working for Puntlanders.

Same with the other states.

Only if interests are aligned in a single state could you come together to build a constitution.

We aren't inherently chaotic it's just that all of Somalis don't have the same interests shared across states.

Heard this on the Joe Rogan, Naval recent interview.

With family I'm a communist.

With friends I'm a socialist

In my city I'm a democrat.

In my state I'm a Republican.

At a Federal level I'm a libertarian.


Seems like a revolution in every state is the only solution to our predicament since I don't see how foreign controlled elections will give us our sovereignty back.
This is a good proposal sxb, but we need a unified state and if we to slow to act, each mini revolution will be crushed
 

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