Puntland State Building For Somalia 2004 to 2023 Has Failed

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Come in Puntites yes this is going to shock you but it's not for shock-value, it's real talk. PL established the SFG nearly 20 years ago. Are we satisfied where the nation has reached in those long 20 years? is it time to convene a 'wada tashi' and make a similar bold brave announcement like we did in 1998? The SFG hasn't made significant progress when you look at the 20 year time-line, the nation on the ground is still very chaotic. The political class are all chaotic and unstable nation wide.

The constitution of Puntland says this

Article 4

Dawladda Puntland waxaa u bannaanaanaysa in ay dib u eegto arrimaha ku xusan faqradaha 1aad, 2aad iyo 3aad ee isla qodobkan, haddii: b. Soomaalidu ku heshiin weydo qaab-dhismeed dawladeed oo aan ka hooseyn nidaamka Federaaliga. Ay daba dheeraadaan daganaansho la’aanta iyo dagaallada ka aloosan qaybaha kale ee Soomaaliya.

So as you can see their is one of two conditions that need to be met. That the nation isn't heading towards a Puntland Model Federalism or the 'instability' has continued. The instability is still there 20 years on and the federalism being discussed is outside the PL model. Both symptoms predicted are playing out in the nation.

I propose the following solution and I believe this can serve as an acceptable medium ground between secessionist and unionist. We must remember the unionist are still very strong locally becuz of their fear a somali divided means they will get swallowed up larger countries or they lose significance like Djibouti on regional or global scale.

We can calm down the unionist and tell them, if we can't save all Somalis, it's best we save who we can. If we save PL, we can come back to rescue Somalia at a later time. But if we continue to sit idle and watch the nation devolve and not respond, we may be risking ourselves into extinction.

The following model will dictate that PL will enjoy a full state independence treaty with Somalia for a 99 year period. Every 25 years Puntland and the SFG will discuss if a union is possible, if not possible, the next review interval will be in 25 years untill such time the 99 year treaty expires. Once expired, the SFG and PL will consult on if this 'treaty' is extended for another duration, if PL becomes a separate sovereign country, or if the south is prepared for a federal union.

PL must set the conditions it demands for a union with the South such as

1. Security
2. Rule of Law, certified institutions, courts, government
3. Economic development
4. Political/Social stability

The hawiye can be convinced it's best for PL to save itself and in the future return to save the south. The unionist in PL can be calmed down that PL will pursue a federal union if the conditions in the south have reached the milestone we demand. This will also satisfy our growing secessionist who want us to power on with development and get strong as a region and end this never-ending 'conflict' with Mogadishu.

The ppl of PL don't suffer from 'oppressed identity syndrome' and hate never-ending conflict or 'fight the power' crap. That's why the puntites want to focus on themselves becuz they believe they can 'rule and achieve their goals' not waste their time thinking about OTHERS like oppressed ppl do.
 
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The ”state building” in question


It's gone on too long. 2004-2023. 20 years and we r repeating the same sit idle like we did in 1991-1998 after 15 conference collapsed and cairo conference created sal-balaar govt of hg/abgaaal showing they are not interested in a govt. I don't want us to sit in this 'empty space of observing' it's totally dangerous. My solution would provide them a beautiful blue print where they can manage unionist demand and secessionist in a mosaic artwork.
 

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This can be done within every urban towns plus regional and coastal corridors within 5-10 years if PL is independent.This could've been completed from 2009 when farole came and abdillahi resigned. It's 14 years, it would've ended by now the infrastructure era.




We would've been moving in manufacturing industrial parks, oil exports, banking loan culture to facilitate our start ups. All our diaspora will rush back and see HOPE where they can bring all their talents together for dhulki awoowe. Time is the most important asset and how it is used, the way we have used TIME by waiting for this stupid oppressed identity complex freak show HAG, wuxu keenaya keliya inay dadkaa isnacan oo kalaa dhintan, ma cawinayso 'midnimo'
 
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We could dump HG back to their nature reserve treaty park which falls under wildlife/tribes ministry(duurjogtada) ileen dawlad diiday waa in nidaaam kale lagu dhaqa, we can bring him to PL so ppl can meet the livestock n habar gedir species as people 'look in awe n wonder'
 
Secession and isolating yourself is not the way Dr it doesn’t work always but you will get a few things done. What’s your goal here? To get your funds allocated to you separately like sl? If that’s the goal then it will work for you.

puntland had the chance of getting the capital moved longen time ago but you decided to bring it back to xamar. Like our resident analyst @The Midlands said before the best time was when puntland had the whole somali government in their hand before they decided to bring to to xamar and rebuild it.

my opinion is we should move the capital to somewhere neutral where Somalia can move forward instead of waiting for anti-government. Cartel business men disguised as nabadoon and politicians. Believe me there’s no way we will defeat those men they’ll use the clan card and keep their people and the rest of us back.
 

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Secession and isolating yourself is not the way Dr it doesn’t work always but you will get a few things done. What’s your goal here? To get your funds allocated to you separately like sl? If that’s the goal then it will work for you.

puntland had the chance of getting the capital moved longen time ago but you decided to bring it back to xamar. Like our resident analyst @The Midlands said before the best time was when puntland had the whole somali government in their hand before they decided to bring to to xamar and rebuild it.

my opinion is we should move the capital to somewhere neutral where Somalia can move forward instead of waiting for anti-government. Cartel business men disguised as nabadoon and politicians. Believe me there’s no way we will defeat those men they’ll use the clan card and keep their people and the rest of us back.

No bro I don't mean the SL self declared secession crap, that will only hurt us I know.

I say an interim treaty for 99 years where PL is independent similar to how hong kong was with china. I want the SFG and PL both to sign this and see it's mutually beneficial that PL save itself and every 25 years does on-ground review to see if the conditions are ripe for union. This can satisfy our local or other somali unionist that PL will return to somalia when it's 'ready' for such union but in the mean time it will focus on saving itself so it can return later to save the south. But sitting idly how we are now reminds me of 91-98 period.

It will keep our ppl separated focusing on their own tasks. Rite now 'aan wada dhimano' isn't in the south or PL interest or somalinimo, it's far better one goes and save itself to help the south rise later. Rite now this 'aan wada dhimano' pact is going to only hurt somalinimo.

SXB our gen z will die by 2080 majority, we only have small window to capture them before their lost into the west thru assimilation. The diaspora disappearing will leave the locals to local conditions plus it hurts PL the most who has the largest share of diaspora. Its in our interest to save them n reconnect them to PL to 're engage' @Bari🐍
 
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Secession and isolating yourself is not the way Dr it doesn’t work always but you will get a few things done. What’s your goal here? To get your funds allocated to you separately like sl? If that’s the goal then it will work for you.

puntland had the chance of getting the capital moved longen time ago but you decided to bring it back to xamar. Like our resident analyst @The Midlands said before the best time was when puntland had the whole somali government in their hand before they decided to bring to to xamar and rebuild it.

my opinion is we should move the capital to somewhere neutral where Somalia can move forward instead of waiting for anti-government. Cartel business men disguised as nabadoon and politicians. Believe me there’s no way we will defeat those men they’ll use the clan card and keep their people and the rest of us back.

I don't mind discussing new solutions as long as it's not the let's sit idle like we did in 91-98 period or like were doing now 2004-2023. Im prepared if somalis want to discuss new solutions. @The Midlands

I am prepared mogadishu is isolated to a 'region' like HS, while the capital is relocated elsewhere where regions who are ready to move on join this new arrangement and let HS deal with hamar issue as regional problem not make it a NATIONAL problem where it effects all somalis from moving on, this won't help somalinimo it will only cause clan hatred.

Imagine when PL gets strong, it will move to GM make it strong, then Hiraan. It will reach jubbland and south-west and then finally that zoo in hamar will have to conform to the new reality surrounding it.
 
No bro I don't mean the SL self declared secession crap, that will only hurt us I know.

I say an interim treaty for 99 years where PL is independent similar to how hong kong was with china. I want the SFG and PL both to sign this and see it's mutually beneficial that PL save itself and every 25 years does on-ground review to see if the conditions are ripe for union. This can satisfy our local or other somali unionist that PL will return to somalia when it's 'ready' for such union but in the mean time it will focus on saving itself so it can return later to save the south. But sitting idly how we are now reminds me of 91-98 period.

It will keep our ppl separated focusing on their own tasks. Rite now 'aan wada dhimano' isn't in the south or PL interest or somalinimo, it's far better one goes and save itself to help the south rise later. Rite now this 'aan wada dhimano' pact is going to only hurt somalinimo.

SXB our gen z will die by 2080 majority, we only have small window to capture them before their lost into the west thru assimilation. The diaspora disappearing will leave the locals to local conditions plus it hurts PL the most who has the largest share of diaspora. Its in our interest to save them n reconnect them to PL to 're engage' @Bari🐍
If you can get something like that good luck the somalia stamp from xamar will always follow you unless puntland brings something important to the world to make yourself stand out.
 

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I can see my vision play out beautifully.

In 20-50 years PL grows strong thru it's 99 year independence treaty with the SFG, it calms down our unionist that we will be independent plus will do generational reviews between the SFG/PL if the conditions are suitable.

This allows the clan hatred to end becuz PL feels they are suffering in-directly becuz of the capital holding the nation hostage to their 'district' problem. In the worse case scenario it allows PL to return to save the south. Current model is the 'capital epicenter' spreads it's dysfunction to the southern regions, then spreads it's impacts to PL indirectly.

So were all suffering through this mogadishu centric solution either directly like the whole south or indirectly PL.
 

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If you can get something like that good luck the somalia stamp from xamar will always follow you unless puntland brings something important to the world to make yourself stand out.

PL can convince the SFG, didn't u read my SFG point. A strong and independent PL will lead to saving one part of somalia with the intention to return to save the other parts. The current solution of tryin to save everything and noone being saved but heading towards extinction, isn't in their interest or PL. Isn't that a clear MUTUAL BENEFIT or what don't u see.

We can convince the world a strong independent PL will only be 'treaty' based like Hong Kong and PL will return to the union when the conditions are suitable. It's also safer for the west this region of the world returns to stability becuz of the havoc it can cause on the trade routes.

PL can then serve as a model when it' begins heading towards 1st world status while the south see itself in 3rd world, this will pressure the south ppl to catch up thru EXAMPLE, but if their no example for them, they will remain devolving. Infact it could lead to the south all migrating to PL as we train and equip them with the expertise they need. Their is so much benefit 4 the world and somalis. But this current mogadishu centric approach we tried it now for 20 years, do we need to continue another 100 years before we accept it has failed.
 

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PL will be like this for 99 years treaty(subject to extension, sovereignity, or federal union clauses) depending on the south

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The south will be like this, finally PL will return to save us thru hosting us in Garowe exchanges thru 'EXAMPLE N PROOF' Not thru 'sheeko iyo empty talk'

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PL iyo Somalia way kala nasanayan ma kala tagayan shud be our new slogan, PL oo fiyow waxay horseedaysa somalia oo fiyow.
 

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