Puntland Needs To Make Geopolitical Move

DR OSMAN

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VIP
The current crop of Puntland leaders prefer the wait and see approach and pray things just fix themselves by being neutral, and guess what the worst move is being neutral as we saw with Isaaq in 2007 till 2023 in Sool, silence doesn't resolve anything infact it supports your enemies as they begin to encroach on your door steps since your not bold enough to make a move. Good decision is success, bad decision is lessons, no decision or sit and wait is time and political loss and regrets which may be irreversible because you chose this sit and wait like a sitting duck, a sitting duck political posture is the worst strategy.

As you see in SL, they made a move and went to bed with Ethiopia and traded their identity which will slowly be merged with Oromo or whoever in other Habash is leading like a dog, they will slowly lose ports, electricity to addis thru renaissance dam, open borders for settlement and since their far smaller to who their in bed with you can envision another Dire Dawa on their land, then comes beautiful churches, and finally Somali tongue lost as they speak Oromo or Amharic or whatever new language and serve another 700 years in gunnimo as the habash record shit in their Ethiopian canals and they will be discriminated because they teach their wise behind the scenes ancient leadership any group who betrayed their previous history must be never given power and must be treated like an outcast as they will backstab habash too so they will come up with new words for them like we call em idoor but they will call em something filthy also so ppl remember their nickname marker and study it's history and cause.

Anyways make a move PL. Safety is paramount first so we can evacuate our people in the event of a regional emergency not sit there and all die if a war breaks out and it doesn't go our way. We got strong ties with Mahra in east Yemen, socotra and historical trust which can't be violated as it's hard to build trust when relationships are new which ethio and Somaliland will encounter. That's an advantage for us.

We got heaps of Harti contacts in Oman who are movers and shakers in there with 300 year history. We must not involve them and ensure their stable at all times so we can migrate our civilians when time arises to wait out in safety and only keep our soldiers on land to continue war and show them why we are sons of Majerteniya sons of daar ood sons of ibnul aqeel which is the aqli of the bani hashims and beautiful strong line thru doonbiro direed who goes into Saba iintu.

Our soldiers must be set up as clan militias and govt forces so something like SL centralised security collapse doesn't happen, they only joined Ethiopia cause they got no weapons and want it to be docked down from their ports, waa lagu tashanaya as they feel ashamed how coward they are in war and just all talk and surviving on dhulbahante isku dir. Set up new friendly ties with Malaysia, Indonesia as more back up options finding Jabarti loyalists in their Islamic creed as their many who can open up doors for us which our awoowe went there for not just preaching but setting up back ups for us in the event of war in Somalia.

Till then find a country that is anti Ethiopia which is masar but tell them we ain't joining you untill you disown ikhwaan in Somalia, if they refuse side with them for now to eliminate ethio and Somaliland dog and join the naval blockade coalition of Eritrea, Somalia, Egypt, but then slowly wedge your bets out of Egypt and Eritrea as they want a cawaan hawiye in power thru ikhwaan like sal balaar in 97 Cairo proved plus abdiqasim salat hides out there like it's his holy land marka wax bay isla og yihin waana xumaantada lol.

Please oh Please make a fuckin move if your not a rag goan gaadhi Karo U shouldn't waste our ppl time by being sitting ducks for 5 years, let our ppl inherit something whether its success or failure as failures is lessons learned which is better then no decision and sitting duck regrets.
 
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DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
Somalis take your kindness for weakness. The most persecuted clan in Somalia history is Majerten yet they never talk about it. From Darawish and Majerteniya massacres, Italy naval bombardment massacres with Somali and Eritrean on land foot soldiers.

From 1978 till 1986 no clan comes close to what they went thru whether it's scholarship isbaaro, govt job isbaaro, religious ulama murdered, mudug and nugaal genocide, rape, poisoning, 91 civilian genocide in Hamar, galkacyo, kismaayo, alitihaad terrorists in 92 led by dahir aways, Shabab in galgala.

What the f*ck do these guys want from our people, yet they cry for some petty second hand mig 23 over a 3 month assault on Hargeisa lol, how can that kill 50,000 ppl unless you want to defy mechanics and payload logic cause we know the capacity of mig 23 lol. Only like 500 ppl died maximum.

f*ck Somali woke history crying for Isaaq yet everyone knows who suffered the most yet gives nothing but positivity back since 1930 till 1991. We neglected our land for Hamar and built it up yet still got killed and looted for it and haramis still live there raising kids on stolen property while owner is buried under the foundation and they calling themselves muslims, how is that ppl not given a fatwa and banned from mosques as nijaas as they make the whole mosque nijaas. So modern Islam is fake. I don't consider anyone in Hamar muslim but real kaffirin
 
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Don't downplay what happened to the isaaq. Majeerteen got it too but not to the extent of the isaaq. You guys fought for a bit then came to an agreement with the government. Our fight was 10 years long and we got it bad but got somaliland out of it. You guys got freed from a brutal dictator. Your welcome
 
The current crop of Puntland leaders prefer the wait and see approach and pray things just fix themselves by being neutral, and guess what the worst move is being neutral as we saw with Isaaq in 2007 till 2023 in Sool, silence doesn't resolve anything infact it supports your enemies as they begin to encroach on your door steps since your not bold enough to make a move. Good decision is success, bad decision is lessons, no decision or sit and wait is time and political loss and regrets which may be irreversible because you chose this sit and wait like a sitting duck, a sitting duck political posture is the worst strategy.

As you see in SL, they made a move and went to bed with Ethiopia and traded their identity which will slowly be merged with Oromo or whoever in other Habash is leading like a dog, they will slowly lose ports, electricity to addis thru renaissance dam, open borders for settlement and since their far smaller to who their in bed with you can envision another Dire Dawa on their land, then comes beautiful churches, and finally Somali tongue lost as they speak Oromo or Amharic or whatever new language and serve another 700 years in gunnimo as the habash record shit in their Ethiopian canals and they will be discriminated because they teach their wise behind the scenes ancient leadership any group who betrayed their previous history must be never given power and must be treated like an outcast as they will backstab habash too so they will come up with new words for them like we call em idoor but they will call em something filthy also so ppl remember their nickname marker and study it's history and cause.

Anyways make a move PL. Safety is paramount first so we can evacuate our people in the event of a regional emergency not sit there and all die if a war breaks out and it doesn't go our way. We got strong ties with Mahra in east Yemen, socotra and historical trust which can't be violated as it's hard to build trust when relationships are new which ethio and Somaliland will encounter. That's an advantage for us.

We got heaps of Harti contacts in Oman who are movers and shakers in there with 300 year history. We must not involve them and ensure their stable at all times so we can migrate our civilians when time arises to wait out in safety and only keep our soldiers on land to continue war and show them why we are sons of darod and Majerteniya ibnul aqeel bani hashims and beautiful line thru doonbiro direed who goes into Saba iintu hence sab ppl.

Our soldiers must be set up as clan militias and govt forces so something like SL centralised security collapse doesn't happen, they only joined Ethiopia cause they got no weapons and want it to be docked down from their ports, waa lagu tashanaya as they feel ashamed how coward they are in war and just all talk and surviving on dhulbahante isku dir. Set up new friendly ties with Malaysia, Indonesia as more back up options finding Jabarti loyalists in their Islamic creed as their many who can open up doors for us which our awoowe went there for not just preaching but setting up back ups for us in the event of war in Somalia.

Till then find a country that is anti Ethiopia which is masar but tell them we ain't joining you untill you disown ikhwaan in Somalia, if they refuse side with them for now to eliminate ethio and Somaliland dog and join the naval blockade coalition of Eritrea, Somalia, Egypt, but then slowly wedge your bets out of Egypt and Eritrea as they want a cawaan hawiye in power thru ikhwaan like sal balaar in 97 Cairo proved plus abdiqasim hides out there marka wax bay isla og yihin waana xumaantada lol.

Please oh Please make a fuckin move if your not a rag go an gaadhi Karo U shouldn't waste our ppl time by being sitting ducks for 5 years, let our ppl inherit something whether its success or failure is better then no decision and sitting duck regrets.
A hundred years ago Somali peninsula was going through a tumultuous time very similar to today. Boqor Osman ended up chained and exiled to xamar, Puntland elite think they will be left alone but a Majeerteen govt will always be the main target to dismantle if you want to subdue and destroy the sovereignty of Somalis. The Italians knew this that's why they destroyed the sultanate. I'm sure if Ethiopia want to annex a region of Somalia they will also want to destroy Puntland
 

DR OSMAN

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A hundred years ago Somali peninsula was going through a tumultuous time very similar to today. Boqor Osman ended up chained and exiled to xamar, Puntland elite think they will be left alone but a Majeerteen govt will always be the main target to dismantle if you want to subdue and destroy the sovereignty of Somalis. The Italians knew this that's why they destroyed the sultanate. I'm sure if Ethiopia want to annex a region of Somalia they will also want to destroy Puntland

That's why Somalis were building Oromo thru Islam during Adal sultanate era into Islam as a way to push them into Amhara land but the small minority Christians among Oromo seem to have way more influence and power so I guess that proves focusing on large numbers isnt the answer, we aren't as focused on tigray and actually work with them cause if we can get rid of their Amhara their sitting ducks but their quite sly and came into Somalia in the droves thru Italians and set up Intel base and lots are Somalis now cultural wise but that's deceptive since they know their families in Eritrea wink wink sheikh idris 😜 noone is gonna abadon their roots like asking for such thing is asking for one to be traitor and even if he does he knows whoever he goes into will also question why should I treat U well as U may do the same to me.

But I do find the Oromo threat the worst for Somalis considering how many land losses happened to them like dire Dawa. Their so sly and can embed themselves as maskin and open up corridors thru migration and they feel Somalis think their maskins and won't harm them as Somalis think war is only armed invasion not walking invasion.

Well maskins congregating become eventual lions lol and swallow u up as we seen in Dire Dawa, Harar.

I know what Oromo strategy is, which is to go into bed with either Somali and Habash and select a side and keep shuffling thru them untill their both are gone and Oromo has all the land. You would think Somalis will just say f*ck it and cut a deal with habash to remove this flip flopper and traitor through out history who serves noone interest but themselves
 
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Djokovic

Somali Arab
We shouldn’t make any agreements with any foreign governments we should build everything up ourselves and become an state which does not rely on handouts and produces value.

Now we have two ports we should start exporting more than we import as most of the money goes out of the nation you cannot grow if you are in this situation.

To grow the economy first we should start producing anything that we import that can be made by ourselves so we should only import raw materials that we do not have already on our land.

Unfortunately though we are stuck in limbo as we do not have the capital for this as most people are in poverty

these should be the priorities when all the Infrastructure projects are completed.
 
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johnsepei5

Head of Somalia freemasonry branch
VIP
We shouldn’t make any agreements with any foreign governments we should build everything up ourselves and become an state which does not rely on handouts and produces value.

Now we have two ports we should start exporting more than we import as most of the money goes out of the nation you cannot grow if you are in this situation.

To grow the economy first we should start producing anything that we import that can be made by ourselves so we should only import raw materials that we do not have already on our land.

Unfortunately though we are stuck in limbo as we do not have the capital for this as most people are in poverty

these should be the priorities when all the Infrastructure projects are completed.
Cheaper energy would fix this
 
Don't downplay what happened to the isaaq. Majeerteen got it too but not to the extent of the isaaq. You guys fought for a bit then came to an agreement with the government. Our fight was 10 years long and we got it bad but got somaliland out of it. You guys got freed from a brutal dictator. Your welcome


Bullshit. Siad Barre targeted MJs from day 1, SSDF predates SNM and we all know how SSDF assisted SNM in even learning how to fight for their own rights. But we can't expect honesty and gratitude from SNM. In 1979, when your clan was BFF with him, your uncles, engineered the ethnic cleansing of MJs in Mudug and Nugaal.


Your uncles + Marehans.

Maxamed kaahin
Dhagaweeyne
Xasan Tanzania
Axmed Mire,
Maxamed Nuux

Engineered the following crimes:

NUGAAL


  • Over 250 houses destroyed
  • 105 wells/water cachments destroyed + poisoned
  • 450 people massacred (of course including women, children and elderly).
In the following places:

Kalabayr, Jalam, Eyl, Rabaable, Magacley, Maygaag, Sugulle, Ballidacar, Qamboobley.


MUDUG:

The following places were targeted for ethnic cleansing:

Ballibusle, Seemade, Qalaanqal, Gosol, Xarfo, Qorile-Dheere, Barde Gobol, Gacnafale, Bacaadweyn, Roox, Labagardaye, Sagaaro-doox, Dogob, Dudun, Galxamur,Laanmadow,Riigomane,Candho-dhexe, Bursaalax,Taaloole,Bayra,Nugaalgaban,

  • 1500 houses burnt
  • 350 water cachments destroyed and poisoned
  • Over 800 people murdered.




Not to mention all the girls and women that were raped and the countless MJs who were falsely imprisoned and whose lives were destroyed. The only reason this is not widespread knowledge, is because MJ leaders have chosen the very stupid route of 'forgive and forget'.


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Bullshit. Siad Barre targeted MJs from day 1, SSDF predates SNM and we all know how SSDF assisted SNM in even learning how to fight for their own rights. But we can't expect honesty and gratitude from your people.

In 1979, when your clan was BFF with him, your uncles, engineered the ethnic cleansing of MJs in Mudug and Nugaal.

The only reason this is not widespread knowledge, is because MJ leaders have chosen to stupid route of 'forgive and forget'.

Your uncles + Marehans.

Maxamed kaahin
Dhagaweeyne
Xasan Tanzania
Axmed Mire,
Maxamed Nuux

Engineered the following crimes:

NUGAAL


  • Over 250 houses destroyed
  • 105 wells/water cachments destroyed + poisoned
  • 450 people massacred (of course including women, children and elderly).
In:
Kalabayr
Jalam
Eyl
Rabaable
Magacley
Maygaag
Sugulle
Ballidacar
Qamboobley


MUDUG:

Ballibusle, Seemade, Qalaanqal, Gosol, Xarfo, Qorile-Dheere, Barde Gobol, Gacnafale, Bacaadweyn, Roox, Labagardaye, Sagaaro-doox, Dogob, Dudun, Galxamur,Laanmadow,Riigomane,Candho-dhexe, Bursaalax,Taaloole,Bayra,Nugaalgaban,

  • 1500 houses bunt
  • 350 water cachments destroyed and poisoned
  • Over 800 people murdered.

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In short, Kacaanists, SNM, can go to hell together in the same handbasket.
Why are you so hostile. I see your point and majeerteen did there damage to the isaaq as well but what I was replying to was this guy said 500 people died in the war and that's not the case. I don't know what you got against snm except maybe those guys you named other then that snm didn't do anything to you guys. When hawiye popped off with you guys in galkacyo snm was suppose to attack attack from this side and we were suppose to meet in garowe. Ina kaahin the guy you named is the guy who told the rest of snm we're not doing that and said let's have peace talks instead. So relax I'm sure those guys regret what they did
 

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