Puntland GDP IS 5 Billion. Somalis Cry

[DR OSMAN]

The problem with republican system it creates no excellence or class system among the laymen local, with a monarchy system it institutes awards based on excellence from history in different areas by choosing the best in that area and creating a yearly award

For example

1. Military Awards based on Hersi Boqor class, Omar Samatar Class, Binu uqail order being the highest level of distinction. See it creates 'distinctions' based on the best in that society history. Imagine an Isaaq reached the ukail order of bravery and was knighted for it kkkkk and he boast to another 'darod' that he is more 'darod' in spirit and achievements then they are. See it creates a class system that eliminates his 'tribal or racial identity' immediately as we respect his status now.

2. Poetry Awards based on distinction and meaning behind it using historical best literature awards like the sayid abdulle awards, sheikh ali majerten awards, etc

3. Religious distinction class of the 'jabarti' order in the spirit of their reach and understanding of Islam into indonesia-eritrea-horn of africa. This will create Jabarti order for Somali religious scholars

4. Entrepeneur Order like Jirde Hussein Award of best business person or uunlaaye awards

5. Darwish Calvary order on the best army squad in the nation

The list of accolades continues on but it's all grounded horta in a society that respects it's history and achievements and that requires recognizing the monarchy and sultanates since they were the old world order institutions and once u remove that and become a republic, awards become not grounded in history but grounded in something made up and loses meaning and respect in society.

A class based system creates a status society based on merit and fosters competition, where-as a republican system just creates class less society which fosters equality for all yet their no basis for their equality since it's a given right under republican system and it will lead to no-one respecting noone like u see in America today as their all peasants and noone superior to another since class is eliminated it led racial identities forming as classes, where a black lawyer is considered less then white farmer is preposterous in kingdom structure as the class of the person is measured first not the color.

Look at this beautiful hikma wisdom of sheikh ali majerten


Binu Cuqayl biyaha Jeberti nin ka beermay baan ahay

2- Daarood bartiisiyo beerkiyo laftaan ahay

Dadku baari kala roone baafane Hartaan ahay

3- Majeerteenka sida buurta u ballaartay baan ahay

With a society that still has his history and knowledge can translate that far better then peasant in republican system who will translate it with republican lense thinking it's just mere qabiil boasting when it's far from that.

He says I am the son of uqail and created from the seed of 'jabarti'
He exclaims further 'Im half darod backbone and the bone it stands on'
He exclaims the class system here 'bari ain't equal I am harti' see the clear distinction on class
He exclaims then finally 'Majerten is like that mountain you see that has spread'

Notice he is mentioning 'darod' in his war-cry as he didn't consider the other tribes as saldanoyin at all and it wud be similar to you talking poetry to aboriginal tribe today. His poetry is of the highest eloquence saying he started from the seed of jabarti and a son of ukail a military conquerer to becoming the backbone that darod sits on. He then points to Bari and say I am not equal to them I am Harti a clear 'status' above, and then he says U see that big ass mountain in calmadow and calmiska my clan has reached that level of population. Notice the hikma u go from sperm of jabarti to a son of ukail on horse and today that conquest has led to him becoming as large as the mountain you see. That's the hikma sperm drop to a mountain and ukail in the middle as a horse and sayf of majerteniya.

Notice how beautiful that is? yet in republican system people are awarded poetry awards yet it's nothing of that sophistication since republicanism isn't grounded in history but a new future only so there is nothing to baseline anyone of to measure. For example when he says binu ukail baan ahay and isaaq responds banu hashim baan ahay, since their no history being preserved noone can stand up among the crowd and say 'OH YE PEASANT ID88R' he said his 'binu ukail' waa abtirsaday and u said 'Banu hashim' and hence promoted him since ukail is a son of hashim also and you commited a horrendous intellectual foul. It could lead to peopl awardin that ID88R an award while neglecting the eloquence of the Majerten poet.

All of this great discourse is all forsaken due to the new future being forged grounded not in a past but a republican war cry.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad MJ is not hordes we are simply like this to honor our clan's achievement, historical institutions, majerten contributions to our new house called 'somali' grounded in sayid abdulle philosophy and the subjects are 'hordes' not me since u know me as I stand as historical institution and saldanad like all other clans in Darod and high form aristocracy(isimo) and monarch elect of the darod kingdoms today.

I am like this for history and culture and ancestors not for preserving 'aboriginal' way of life, wax baan ka dhaxlay nimankasi of the past, the least I can do is honor and cherish it, this doesn't mean am against a 'modern future' just not at the expense of my past is what i say.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad biggest battle in history has always been the cultured sons of Darod no matter small or big he knows it's gonnaa be one helluva of war based on ukail pride

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad respond to me mr i am the best poet of Somalia. U all come in if u want @Calaf @Dues Ex Machete @SomaliMVP bring in all the house of tanade and house of absame and house of sade aristocracy or elected kings and respond to royal elect majerten king.

Tell me how u can beat this wicked wisdom from sheikh ali majerten

He said he started as 'seed' and converted to 'binu ukail soldier' cuz that who he was binu ukail this then led to conquest and he calls out Darod men and says Darod halfkeeda baan ahay and points to the next verse 'bari kala roone bafaan hartan aahay' meaning that half and backbone is purely Harti and then he tears apart Harti and says beautifully Majerten baan ahay oo sida buurtasi uu balaartay baan ahay.

Meaning behind of all this historically is that he is Harti and the backbone darod stands on and majerten is like that mountain u see before u. Beautiful seqence from the small beginnings of jabarti to harti being half darod and backbone it stands on and Majerten is the mountain of harti is the conclusion, notice he pointed to the mountain so u can't say your majerten is a 'small geed' of darod ama laf kkkk or any of that family tree. His saying his like a mountain now, xitaa 'geed la harsado' manahin kkkk.

As they say silence is bliss boys, I see none of you fighting back, silence is good indicator of conquest kkkkk just like sheikh ali majerten did with his peers at the time with his poetry, hence he must be ranked up as some of heavy hitting poets of all somali history. Cause as u guys see total silence is filling up the Somali theaters as they watch in awe a re-enactment of it kkkkk

 

[DR OSMAN]

Imagine seeing a decorated hag or id33r crowned in binu ukail order, sheikh ali majerten medals, uunlaaye awards, darwish calvary medals, jabarti class order, wowwww u wud see the end of tribalism and people respecting you on your class, he wud be superior to any darod by blood because status and blood, blood is only for dhaxal matters like monarch elect and kings only but wthin the aristocracy and locals they can reach any level in society irrrespective of clan, race, gender, etc since it's a society based on class order and not that class-less nonsense kkk.

Finally farjano wud be like 'damn' i am impressed with u hordes now as your being cultured into the way of the kings under the house of 'somali' which is your house kkkkk since your tribal house is has no saldanad that is functioning and hence why your hordes today

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad is like this when he meets hag/id33r under the house of somali and knighted with 'darod awards'. His on the march to becoming a developed human and rising up the ranks of distinctions among the locals.

Farjano and all Darods are like I finally have a reason to respect you uncultured tribes cause I know what those 'historicaal awards' mean it sits on real history from kingdoms, u finally earned your status and not cried for thru 4.5, republicanism, or any other sort shuuci nonsense. Hags n Id99r who are still holding onto the 'horde mentality' are screaming don't do it and join it, it's all just qabilism of darod not knowing darod isn't a qabil but an estabalished monarchy elect with various sultanataes and kingdom and aristocracies and social order based on distinction among it's local, it's a culture is what they don't accept they think it's mere tribalism like their shit as they can't imagine a tribe can be a govt, well yes they can they were called KINGDOMS in the old world biij boy, they argue on the republican philosophy a qabaiil cant be dawlad yeah not in your republican garbage it can't since it's a classless society. But kingdoms have been around since the days of pharoah, it's the oldest type of govt which is purely based on family relation and clans.

 

[AutumnBreeze]

The problem with republican system it creates no excellence or class system among the laymen local, with a monarchy system it institutes awards based on excellence from history in different areas by choosing the best in that area and creating a yearly award

For example

1. Military Awards based on Hersi Boqor class, Omar Samatar Class, Binu uqail order being the highest level of distinction. See it creates 'distinctions' based on the best in that society history. Imagine an Isaaq reached the ukail order of bravery and was knighted for it kkkkk and he boast to another 'darod' that he is more 'darod' in spirit and achievements then they are. See it creates a class system that eliminates his 'tribal or racial identity' immediately as we respect his status now.

2. Poetry Awards based on distinction and meaning behind it using historical best literature awards like the sayid abdulle awards, sheikh ali majerten awards, etc

3. Religious distinction class of the 'jabarti' order in the spirit of their reach and understanding of Islam into indonesia-eritrea-horn of africa. This will create Jabarti order for Somali religious scholars

4. Entrepeneur Order like Jirde Hussein Award of best business person or uunlaaye awards

5. Darwish Calvary order on the best army squad in the nation

The list of accolades continues on but it's all grounded horta in a society that respects it's history and achievements and that requires recognizing the monarchy and sultanates since they were the old world order institutions and once u remove that and become a republic, awards become not grounded in history but grounded in something made up and loses meaning and respect in society.

A class based system creates a status society based on merit and fosters competition, where-as a republican system just creates class less society which fosters equality for all yet their no basis for their equality since it's a given right under republican system and it will lead to no-one respecting noone like u see in America today as their all peasants and noone superior to another since class is eliminated it led racial identities forming as classes, where a black lawyer is considered less then white farmer is preposterous in kingdom structure as the class of the person is measured first not the color.

Look at this beautiful hikma wisdom of sheikh ali majerten


Binu Cuqayl biyaha Jeberti nin ka beermay baan ahay

2- Daarood bartiisiyo beerkiyo laftaan ahay

Dadku baari kala roone baafane Hartaan ahay

3- Majeerteenka sida buurta u ballaartay baan ahay

With a society that still has his history and knowledge can translate that far better then peasant in republican system who will translate it with republican lense thinking it's just mere qabiil boasting when it's far from that.

He says I am the son of uqail and created from the seed of 'jabarti'
He exclaims further 'Im half darod backbone and the bone it stands on'
He exclaims the class system here 'bari ain't equal I am harti' see the clear distinction on class
He exclaims then finally 'Majerten is like that mountain you see that has spread'

Notice he is mentioning 'darod' in his war-cry as he didn't consider the other tribes as saldanoyin at all and it wud be similar to you talking poetry to aboriginal tribe today. His poetry is of the highest eloquence saying he started from the seed of jabarti and a son of ukail a military conquerer to becoming the backbone that darod sits on. He then points to Bari and say I am not equal to them I am Harti a clear 'status' above, and then he says U see that big ass mountain in calmadow and calmiska my clan has reached that level of population. Notice the hikma u go from sperm of jabarti to a son of ukail on horse and today that conquest has led to him becoming as large as the mountain you see. That's the hikma sperm drop to a mountain and ukail in the middle as a horse and sayf of majerteniya.

Notice how beautiful that is? yet in republican system people are awarded poetry awards yet it's nothing of that sophistication since republicanism isn't grounded in history but a new future only so there is nothing to baseline anyone of to measure. For example when he says binu ukail baan ahay and isaaq responds banu hashim baan ahay, since their no history being preserved noone can stand up among the crowd and say 'OH YE PEASANT ID88R' he said his 'binu ukail' waa abtirsaday and u said 'Banu hashim' and hence promoted him since ukail is a son of hashim also and you commited a horrendous intellectual foul. It could lead to peopl awardin that ID88R an award while neglecting the eloquence of the Majerten poet.

All of this great discourse is all forsaken due to the new future being forged grounded not in a past but a republican war cry.

Cali dhuux oo ah nin dhulbahante ayaa Caligeri gabaygan ku tiriyey. Asoo doonaya Celi geri iyo seyyid ina cabdille in u iska horkeeno
Arxan nimaan u gelihaynin oo, ina Ogaadeena
Aabowda uun bay hayaan, kii arsaa’ilaye

Seyyidkana wow u abtirsaday o wuxu yiri

Yuusufoow erey yar baan, ku erganaayaaye
Hadduu Eebbahay kuu idmaad, ururta weyn gaadho
Ikhwaanoow adkee xaajadaan, kugu ammaanaystey
Ku ansaxi halkii aan ku iri, aadna ugu fiirso
Gurraasiyo Iljeex iyo u sheeg, nimanka Iiddoora
Ogaadeen haddaan ahay dad wow, amar korreeyaaye
Oo ubaxa baarkaan ihiyo, awrta Haashima e

Abtirsiinydey waxay gashaa, odoyo waaweyne
Halkaan uga arooraana waa, odaga Daaroode
Rasuulkii udgoonaa waa, ina-adeerkay e
Sayidkii Axmed ahaana way, awow ruma e
Ibraahim-Rashiid1
aabbahay, odagi weeyaane
Asaxaabihii oo dhan baan, ehel waddagnaaye
Hadba anigu qoyskaan ahaa, loo irkanayaaye
Nin Amxaara mooyee intii, edge adduun joogta

Seyyidka asoo uga jawaabaya cali jamac haabiil o Jifooyinka Darod Caayaya ayuu Harti Amaan ku meyray
Harti nimaan oqoon baa yidhaa, hadalka qaarkiise,
Waa nimaan hurmuud wada ah iyo, hanadyo waaweyne
Waa nimanka haybtoodu tahay, Haashinkaas kore e

Waa nimanka deeqdii hanbaday, hibo Illaaheeye
Waa niman intay hodon yihiin, hoog ku sii daraye
Waa niman gobbaa lagu hirtaa, lagu hagaagaaye

Waa nimanka daaraha hurdiyo, hadhac dallaal weyne
Waa niman xariira huwanoo, huga ku laafyoone
Waa nimanka haashaarka gole, marada haafeeyne

Waa nimanka doonyuhu Hindiga, uga himbaartaane
Waa niman hadhuudh iyo bariis, hoyga loo dhigaye
Waa nimanka haanfuuqayee, timirtu hoos taale

Waa niman haleeliyo horweyn, heel ka buuxsadaye
Waa niman adduun lagu huroo, maal hareeriminne
Waa niman intay wada habceen, heeshiguun dhiciye

Waa niman hingaar lama watee, haybad guursada e
Waa niman hablaha ay qabaan, halalac leeyaane,
Sida heegadoo curatay bay, shuqul hillaacaane

Waa niman hub iyo dowladnimo, haysta waligoode
Waa niman u heenseyn fardaa, halabsigoodiiye
Waa niman halqooqaha rogaal, heegma weligoode

Waa niman hadday rag is hayaan, huriya baaruude
Waa niman madaafiic higliyo, haaliggii ridiye
Waa niman hanaanaca kufriga, hoor ka soo qubiye

Daroodku waa wada halyey, kalase hayb roone
Dadka kalana waa wada hulqiyo, huuba doora lehe
Waxse heer leh haad Farenji iyo, harabka Iidoore

 

[DR OSMAN]

Cali dhuux oo ah nin dhulbahante ayaa Caligeri gabaygan ku tiriyey. Asoo doonaya Celi geri iyo seyyid ina cabdille in u iska horkeeno
Arxan nimaan u gelihaynin oo, ina Ogaadeena
Aabowda uun bay hayaan, kii arsaa’ilaye

Seyyidkana wow u abtirsaday o wuxu yiri

Yuusufoow erey yar baan, ku erganaayaaye
Hadduu Eebbahay kuu idmaad, ururta weyn gaadho
Ikhwaanoow adkee xaajadaan, kugu ammaanaystey
Ku ansaxi halkii aan ku iri, aadna ugu fiirso
Gurraasiyo Iljeex iyo u sheeg, nimanka Iiddoora
Ogaadeen haddaan ahay dad wow, amar korreeyaaye
Oo ubaxa baarkaan ihiyo, awrta Haashima e

Abtirsiinydey waxay gashaa, odoyo waaweyne
Halkaan uga arooraana waa, odaga Daaroode
Rasuulkii udgoonaa waa, ina-adeerkay e
Sayidkii Axmed ahaana way, awow ruma e
Ibraahim-Rashiid1
aabbahay, odagi weeyaane
Asaxaabihii oo dhan baan, ehel waddagnaaye
Hadba anigu qoyskaan ahaa, loo irkanayaaye
Nin Amxaara mooyee intii, edge adduun joogta

Seyyidka asoo uga jawaabaya cali jamac haabiil o Jifooyinka Darod Caayaya ayuu Harti Amaan ku meyray
Harti nimaan oqoon baa yidhaa, hadalka qaarkiise,
Waa nimaan hurmuud wada ah iyo, hanadyo waaweyne
Waa nimanka haybtoodu tahay, Haashinkaas kore e

Waa nimanka deeqdii hanbaday, hibo Illaaheeye
Waa niman intay hodon yihiin, hoog ku sii daraye
Waa niman gobbaa lagu hirtaa, lagu hagaagaaye

Waa nimanka daaraha hurdiyo, hadhac dallaal weyne
Waa niman xariira huwanoo, huga ku laafyoone
Waa nimanka haashaarka gole, marada haafeeyne

Waa nimanka doonyuhu Hindiga, uga himbaartaane
Waa niman hadhuudh iyo bariis, hoyga loo dhigaye
Waa nimanka haanfuuqayee, timirtu hoos taale

Waa niman haleeliyo horweyn, heel ka buuxsadaye
Waa niman adduun lagu huroo, maal hareeriminne
Waa niman intay wada habceen, heeshiguun dhiciye

Waa niman hingaar lama watee, haybad guursada e
Waa niman hablaha ay qabaan, halalac leeyaane,
Sida heegadoo curatay bay, shuqul hillaacaane

Waa niman hub iyo dowladnimo, haysta waligoode
Waa niman u heenseyn fardaa, halabsigoodiiye
Waa niman halqooqaha rogaal, heegma weligoode

Waa niman hadday rag is hayaan, huriya baaruude
Waa niman madaafiic higliyo, haaliggii ridiye
Waa niman hanaanaca kufriga, hoor ka soo qubiye

Daroodku waa wada halyey, kalase hayb roone
Dadka kalana waa wada hulqiyo, huuba doora lehe
Waxse heer leh haad Farenji iyo, harabka ******e

Notice he said HY iyo Hiraab have 'xeer' which is very low stage of clan development and just means justice system only like nabadoono iyo waxasi bay gaban, he never mentioned they were govt though, saldanad, monarchy elect, aristocracy to preserve the ways of the king.

All darods have 'xeer' niyahow and justice system, this doesn't mean just cause u have 'xeer' there is 'dawlad' kkkkk or any sort of resemblance of 'sultanate and social order structure' in those people. Haday 'xeer' wax tarayso galkacyo ku quus qaado kkkk 'xeer' dawlad ma dhisayso niyahow and sayidka wud of said exactly the same thing about galkacyo manta like he did hiraab and hy that they simply have 'justice' system between them and nothing more like u see galkacyo and pure 'green lines' and this well confirmed in the british treaty with the Isaaq so do not say the sayid was making shit up when there is cross reference source outside Somali saying their 'purely tribes and elders' kkkk nothing more and nothing less. Elder of tribe based on what no 'system' weeye kkkkk no 'dhaxal' no 'culture' exist at all, it's similar to aborigines wallahi. It's like the green-line u see in Galkayo bay uu kala fadhiyeen hiraab iyo Isaaq and only HY had a 'xeer' it's saying no mention of cawaankasi HJ and HA who were in the 'tree developing'

 

[AutumnBreeze]

Notice he said HY iyo Hiraab have 'xeer' which is very low stage of clan development and just means justice system only like nabadoono iyo waxasi bay gaban, he never mentioned they were govt though, saldanad, monarchy elect, aristocracy to preserve the ways of the king.

All darods have 'xeer' niyahow and justice system, this doesn't mean just cause u have 'xeer' there is 'dawlad' kkkkk or any sort of resemblance of 'sultanate and social order structure' in those people. Haday 'xeer' wax tarayso galkacyo ku quus qaado kkkk 'xeer' dawlad ma dhisayso niyahow and sayidka wud of said exactly the same thing about galkacyo manta like he did hiraab and hy that they simply have 'justice' system between them and nothing more like u see galkacyo and pure 'green lines' and this well confirmed in the british treaty with the Isaaq so do not say the sayid was making shit up when there is cross reference source outside Somali saying their 'purely tribes and elders' kkkk nothing more and nothing less. Elder of tribe based on what no 'system' weeye kkkkk no 'dhaxal' no 'culture' exist at all, it's similar to aborigines wallahi. It's like the green-line u see in Galkayo bay uu kala fadhiyeen hiraab iyo Isaaq and only HY had a 'xeer' it's saying no mention of cawaankasi HJ and HA who were in the 'tree developing'

'Heer' weeye 'xeer' maah.buuryo(maqaarka g** ka la iska gudo) baan u malayn, kolley caay buu ula jeeda

 

[DR OSMAN]

@AutumnBreeze god damn you let me and @Farjano-Walad sultan of majerten vs sultan of absame, know your place oh ye 'duke of galkacyo-jariban-burtinle' royal quarters, please sit down and stop the fowdo as similar levelled titles must speak due to the 'nidaam of saldanada'. Farjano Somalis had three clan development stages and let's review it

1. The pure Cawaan like HJ/HA and others who were documented as not even having nabadoon and somali xeer to have code of conduct and rule of law between tribes. This is the lowest level of clan sophisticaton, this is what we refer to as pure aborigine. U can go thru their land and your not safe at all like barbarian hordes kkkk. Hawiye has taken this role today with their Hiraab sultanate even though they had a 'clan justice system' today even that has broken down and their no safety in their land

2. Clans who developed 'xeer' and justice system, these are still state less mind you like you see between galkayo-baraxley as their no real mamul between them and baraxley was simply in the dark ages lakin 'xeer' waa jiray and they would bring their nabadoons together. Nabadoon and xeer is the second lowest level of clan development

3. Then you had sultanates this is what Sayid abdulle said that Darod are all sultanates and governments, this means you have a 'xeer' of justice system plus you have crowned 'sultan' thru dynasty and sophisticated aristocracy learning the culture of darod and enriching their locals with it. This also means they can make decisions on behalf of their tribe like a government does. Where-as the second development stage since their no real govt between them, they cannot make decisions for that clan and live on green lines purely.

4. Now the highest stage has been reached in Darod with the monarchy elect of Boqor Burhan who has brought in these various houses of kings and aristocrat and plays a 'ceremonial' king role. His always been given the jurisdiction of a house called 'Somali' notice he didn't bring in any of their sultanates cause there was none or they just had 'xeer' or were pure 'cawaaan' there wasn't nothing else there dude, if their was, they would be incoporated into a 'somal kingdom' structure and not just given the house called 'somali' and that's why Boqor burhan is given the title of king of Somalia, so he has lots of royal duties and jurisdiction now. But this house called Somali has to be re-built from ground up and put in isaaq/hags. It's going to take a while for alal this to happen of course but it has happened. The republic model may be the state structure but we are not taking a risk like last time that's for sure, they need to be in the house of somali and reporting to boqor burhan to begin clan development stages they may have missed

So sultanates is highest form of govt a tribe can reach, all sultanates are based on family and tribe and so are kingdoms for thousanads of years. They say a tribe can't be govt well that only in republican modern day class-less nonsense, tribe/family were always the form of govt in history since the ancient times till modern times we still see it in nearly every nation that has human development in the old world.

So their u go boys, bah dubays aristocrat speaking on behalf of the aristocracy of PL and in defence of boqor burhan, I also speak out in defence of my 'dukes' islan isse/islan bashir as their far higher in 'status' then bah dubays who is an aristocrat(oday dhaqan) meaning monarchist clan

 

[DR OSMAN]

@AutumnBreeze @Farjano-Walad a Sultanate achieves the following

1. Crowned leader thru lineage, sometime has to be thru bloody conflict like keenadid/osman
2. Aristocracy for the other clans who are titled 'cultured men' or 'oday dhaqan' which is equivalent of a 'aristocrat' in the english world. These ppl are not termed 'oday qabil' which is what u wud say of non-sultanate clan since their is no 'culture' there
3. Justice system is mandatory like nabadoono and 'xeer' or else it will be impossible having a sultanates
4. Power of decision making such as progress/war/peace and evolving the 'xeer' system and negiotating with other sultanates or the world on behalf of your people and 'royal jurisidction'. Dad nidaam iyo kala dambayn leh weeye niyahow with hierachy and structure
5. Class based society thru 'distinctions' applied to the local using the 'aristocracy' to enforce the order of the culture of the kings. This is where the binu ukail pride comes into it, sheikh ali majerten poets, military generals like hersi boqor, omar samatar, keenadiid. It leads to 'Jabarti' class of religious scholars of the highest grade in the foot-steps of the culture. It leads to 'merchant' class either interior or coastal to progress it's people and sultanates.

This quite a baseline and normal in all kingdoms and sultanates no matter what ur language u want to use it's very similar philosophical set up about creating a govt out of tribe or family and creating dynasties based on it and then social order thru an aristocracy that promotes that culture to the locals and begins a 'class order' among the locals. This is why Majerten were seen as very sophisticated even at the local class level and developed in every facets of knowledge, military, religion, trade, literature, poetry that is what I mean when I say 'preserve a culture' that is what a culture develops a higher developed people. Our development rate has reached rock bottom due to the republic not just majerten all darod tribes as we merged three different histories and clan developmentns into a somali republican system, it was bound to be shit fest from the start, wax aan laga firsan weeye, but the boqor was completely out of the process that's for certain and keenadiid kept promoting it

 

[DR OSMAN]

I think even if Sade are pro monarchy as head of state because they are very strict with the hordes about why they think their superior it's due to their sultanates level of social development, one man decision maker in their Ugaas regarding local and non local matters across Somalia and beyond, aristocracy of different sub-lineages, penal code of justice thru xeer, class system among their locals into various religious orders-nomadic ppl-farming ppl-soldier-scholars-business-political, noble n gun castes develop thru that due to violations of the culture of the sultanates notice violating the culture doesn't lead to immediate 'xeer justice' it just lowers your status among the people as you developed a culture outside this excellence

Their has to be a social structure at all times, not a bunch of hordes who just say 'meel laygama hukumo' like HAG is today. Everyone falls below their 'ugaas' in sade, no man can operate outside his 'consent' and they know that since that's the whole point of sultanate to create social order so you can either 'expand militarily' and gain new lands which was the old world or upgrade during peace times like we are in now and add new capacity to your people, it's about always flowing with the time but their in bad situation now with the HORDES in GM in charge kkkk but there is no doubt the more they start in GM the more they see what happens when your not from a 'sultanate' tribe and were still either primitive no xeer society or just penal code society with xeer only and no govt among u. This will bring back more supporters to the monarchy, we should let them see what happens under republican philosophy trying to merge different histories n clan development and equalizing under a 'somali' identity at all times the higher developed tribes must be the 'elites' or else the lower class will swallow us all into dark period like we saw in 91 till now.

 

[Abdalla]

@Farjano-Walad I've told you several times that you're too simple and child-like in your way of talking to be an educated person. An expert is someone who can explain a complex matter in few words, you need 10 posts to verbalise your thoughts

War wuxu reer baadiyeeysanaa

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Farjano-Walad respond to me mr i am the best poet of Somalia. U all come in if u want @Calaf @Dues Ex Machete @SomaliMVP bring in all the house of tanade and house of absame and house of sade aristocracy or elected kings and respond to royal elect majerten king.

Tell me how u can beat this wicked wisdom from sheikh ali majerten

He said he started as 'seed' and converted to 'binu ukail soldier' cuz that who he was binu ukail this then led to conquest and he calls out Darod men and says Darod halfkeeda baan ahay and points to the next verse 'bari kala roone bafaan hartan aahay' meaning that half and backbone is purely Harti and then he tears apart Harti and says beautifully Majerten baan ahay oo sida buurtasi uu balaartay baan ahay.

Meaning behind of all this historically is that he is Harti and the backbone darod stands on and majerten is like that mountain u see before u. Beautiful seqence from the small beginnings of jabarti to harti being half darod and backbone it stands on and Majerten is the mountain of harti is the conclusion, notice he pointed to the mountain so u can't say your majerten is a 'small geed' of darod ama laf kkkk or any of that family tree. His saying his like a mountain now, xitaa 'geed la harsado' manahin kkkk.

As they say silence is bliss boys, I see none of you fighting back, silence is good indicator of conquest kkkkk just like sheikh ali majerten did with his peers at the time with his poetry, hence he must be ranked up as some of heavy hitting poets of all somali history. Cause as u guys see total silence is filling up the Somali theaters as they watch in awe a re-enactment of it kkkkk

9 OUT OF 10 SOMALI POETS ARE OGADEN, THE 10TH PERSON IS USUALLY A DHULBAHANTE OR AN ISAAQ,

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FAMOUS MJ POET

Raage Ugaas, Qamaan Bulxaan, Weerar BUlxaan, Dhoodhan, Sayidka, all Ogaden,

cali dhuux a dhulbahante

after Ogaden who take miles by fmaous poets, no other somali even comes close to come with Ogaden in gabay/suugaan, poetry, bards,


you are trying to re-write history like the communist warya, historical revisionism will not be tolerated

@Farjano-Walad I've told you several times that you're too simple and child-like in your way of talking to be an educated person. An expert is someone who can explain a complex matter in few words, you need 10 posts to verbalise your thoughts

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War wuxu reer baadiyeeysanaa

no need for cheap insults bro, I have a truce with you, lets keep it that way, i will be calm, again its always personal insults with you, ironic you call me childish, when your being one, lets cut it

besides, you never asked me to explain, you attacked me personally and my economic credentials, i had to respond with long ass data/evidence to show your were barking up the wrong tree and talking about deficit when the entire thread was about what percentage of a typical GDP pool is taxed by nations world wide on average,

Anyways, No way i could have fitted all those screenshots into one reply, it will be too many and too long and the answers will just get lost in a long ass reply but I find its easier for people to read several replies rather than just one

BN: when did you ever see an economist explain things simply? they are known to put people to sleep with their long ass essays - because economics is not simply,

Having said that, I have been told in real life and online that I make economics fun and easy to understand I have created so many threads explaining economics 101, Islamic investing, investing in stocks, monetary policy etc, sadly I have deleted the voice notes i created since it was much easier to reply back to questions with voice notes rather than essay sized answers.

If cheap insults is the best you can do after being corrected, I guess I am just wasting my time.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad we know u already lost when u place Isaaq somewhere as u don't feel threatened that's why. Majerten puts fear into your heart. Who was khalif sheikh maxamed, sheikh ali majaerten, keenadiid, cilmi-afyare was the most greatest poet during modern somalia and his hikma which requires far more intellect and reasoning to listen too because if u did u wud understaand how powerful his rhymes-points-conclusions were, however it needs a real poet to actually grade him against 'baseline' measure for quality.

Majerten is probabaly not the best in poetry game but after ogaden it's a tight race between osman mahmud n dhulbahante there is no doubt in my mind. f*ck ur shit about isaaq niin dhan bini ukail sheeganayo iyo niin banu hashim ku jawaabayo has no intellect u f*ck, since binu ukail is banu hashim, he basically praised him by responding isahaaq iyo banu hashim baan ahay war ma ahee waa anigu majerten ku faanay iyo sade ku jawabayo darod baan ahay, yeah im darod too u dumb f*ck, lakin adigu wax ku gooni ah sheego aand isaaq never do nigga kkkkk

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Farjano-Walad we know u already lost when u place Isaaq somewhere as u don't feel threatened that's why. Majerten puts fear into your heart. Who was khalif sheikh maxamed, sheikh ali majaerten, keenadiid, cilmi-afyare was the most greatest poet during modern somalia and his hikma which requires far more intellect and reasoning to listen too because if u did u wud understaand how powerful his rhymes-points-conclusions were, however it needs a real poet to actually grade him against 'baseline' measure for quality.

Majerten is probabaly not the best in poetry game but after ogaden it's a tight race between osman mahmud n dhulbahante there is no doubt in my mind. f*ck ur shit about isaaq niin dhan bini ukail sheeganayo iyo niin banu hashim ku jawaabayo has no intellect u f*ck, since binu ukail is banu hashim, he basically praised him by responding banu hashim kkkkk

bro Somalis say "kill the gaal but give him his haq" not calling isaaq gaal, but lets be fair, lets give them 3rd place but MJ is 4th place, then maybe dir

during the Sayid times, best Poets were Ogaden, Dhulo, Isaaq then MJ

did you know the Sayid once banned hawiye from gabay? he allowed a Hawiye guy to do gabay then the Hawiye insulted the horse of the Sayid, as a result he banned them from gabay

You speak of MJ poets from the 1980s onward, yet we speak of poets like Qamaan Bulxaan from the late 1800s and of course Raage Ugaas from 1730s, who were all Ogaden/Absame

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Farjano-Walad we know u already lost when u place Isaaq somewhere as u don't feel threatened that's why. Majerten puts fear into your heart. Who was khalif sheikh maxamed, sheikh ali majaerten, keenadiid, cilmi-afyare was the most greatest poet during modern somalia and his hikma which requires far more intellect and reasoning to listen too because if u did u wud understaand how powerful his rhymes-points-conclusions were, however it needs a real poet to actually grade him against 'baseline' measure for quality.

Majerten is probabaly not the best in poetry game but after ogaden it's a tight race between osman mahmud n dhulbahante there is no doubt in my mind. f*ck ur shit about isaaq niin dhan bini ukail sheeganayo iyo niin banu hashim ku jawaabayo has no intellect u f*ck, since binu ukail is banu hashim, he basically praised him by responding isahaaq iyo banu hashim baan ahay war ma ahee waa anigu majerten ku faanay iyo sade ku jawabayo darod baan ahay, yeah im darod too u dumb f*ck, lakin adigu wax ku gooni ah sheego aand isaaq never do nigga kkkkk

by the way, its Bani Aqiil, what the hell is Ukail?

lest cut the arab BS, in islamic sunnah saying hadith, an arxan/relative is only 40 awows or less, make darood/Jabarti your ethnic group or sub race and stop with this arab booty clapping for them,

we have evolved and have become a superior race with a language, lands, history etc , we do not need them

claim darood as your race, not even Somali, or better yet, claim Harti like I claim Ogaden/Absame, why even claim darood if your lander?

stick to Harti, i will stick to Absame, teach the world my name/our name and you do the same. why claim arab, darood, kablalax, useless terms, so what if we are related, look at Germans and English, they have gone to war, hate each other yet are related since English are Anglo Saxons, literally from Saxony in Germany . stick to Harti dude, stop begging the darood card, thats for darood yar-yar langabs