Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), an expert hydrologist, says water never becomes impure.

[Ahmed Alawi]

In this glorious hadith, Muhammad, an expert hydrologist, explains that nothing makes water impure, that it’s safe and ideal to pour even the filthiest water over your face for ablution (wudu). There can be garbage in there. Menstrual rags. Rotting corpses. It doesn’t matter.

In Islam, Allah rejects your prayer unless you are ritually pure (tahir). If you urinate, defecate, fart, touch your penis, eat camel meat, sleep—all of that makes you impure (najis). To purify yourself and have your prayers accepted by Allah, you must perform wudu, which is to pour water over various parts of your body, also rinsing your mouth and nose.

Now just think of the preposterousness of this for a moment. You just had a nice dinner consisting of well-done, properly cooked camel meat. But per Islamic law, this has made you impure. And so to correct this, you take water steeped with a rotting dog corpse, with trillions of hazardous bacteria, and pour it on your face and, not only that, YOU RINSE YOUR MOUTH AND NOSE WITH IT.

So based on Muhammad’s wisdom, the residents of Fukushima, Japan can confidently rinse their mouths with local well water. And even if there were a radiation risk, would not the greater risk be that Allah rejects their prayers?

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

Before any liars come in here and try to invalidate this Hadith and call it "fake" or "unreliable":

As-Sunan as-Sughra (Arabic: السنن الصغرى‎), also known as Sunan an-Nasa'i (Arabic: سنن النسائي‎), is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadiths), and was collected by Al-Nasa'i.

Sunnis regard this collection as the third most important of their six major Hadith collections. Al-Mujtaba (English: the selected) has about 5,270 hadiths, including repeated narrations, which the author selected from his larger work, As-Sunan al-Kubra.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

This Hadith has been classed SAHIH by Islamic scholar Al-Abani

Muhammad Nasir-ud-Dīn al-Albani was an Albanian Islamic scholar who specialised in the fields of hadith and fiqh. He established his reputation in Syria, where his family had moved when he was a child and where he was educated.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

Sahih meaning when concerning Hadith:

Ṣaḥīḥ (صَحِيْح) is best translated as "authentic". Ibn Hajar defines a hadith that is ṣaḥīḥ lithatihi – "ṣaḥīḥ in and of itself" – as a singular narration (ahaad; see below) conveyed by a trustworthy, completely competent person, either in his ability to memorize or to preserve what he wrote, with a muttaṣil ("connected") isnād ("chain of narration") that contains neither a serious concealed flaw (ʻillah) nor irregularity (shādhdh).

 

[Inquisitive_]

Let's start of by sharing 3 commentaries of this hadith.


1.

Imam al-Tahawi said that the well of Buda`ah was like a river leading to a garden. This means that the water is always running and it is not stagnant. Therefore, the Prophet declared it to be a pure source of water.


2.

Al-Aini wrote in his explanation of this hadith that, “This well was located on a steep slope of land. And floodwater would push the filth from the roads and the backyards and carry it along. Because of the large amount of water the filth of these things would not affect it or alter it. So they asked the Prophet (PBUH) about it in order to learn the ruling of whether it is pure or contaminated. His reply to them was that water is not contaminated and he meant by this large amounts of it like the water of this abundant well.”


3.

Al-Azim Abadi said about the well in his explanation of this hadith, “Not defiled by anything because of its large amount since the well of Buda’ah was a well with an abundance of water which was far greater than the Qulatain which is unaffected by mixing with these things. And large amounts of water are not defiled by anything as long as its properties do not change.”



Anyone with basic Islamic fiqh knowledge would know that urinating or bathing in stagnant water is forbidden.

Hence the first thing you assume when you see this hadith is that it's running water which it ofcourse is, the other thing to keep in mind is this water is used for "wudhu" no were does it state drinking water.

Such water naturally purifies itself as it moves along different layers of sand/clay/stone/rocks etc. which acts as natural filter as well as a source of mineralization.

The most expensive and effective water filters produced today even use this. Someone pissing into the ocean does not affect the properties of that water, the same with any other body of water that flows, you can perfectly make wudu in it.

Even the poisoned tap water they serve us which are laden with chemicals, they allow certain levels of over 1000 different pollutants provided it doesn't go above a certain threshold.

You can even taste the chlorine that's terrible for the stomach, your criticism is ironic because well water is 1000x more superior then the toxic filth you drink from the taps or the chemical BPA laden bottled waters.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

Let's start of by sharing 3 commentaries of this hadith.


1.

Imam al-Tahawi said that the well of Buda`ah was like a river leading to a garden. This means that the water is always running and it is not stagnant. Therefore, the Prophet declared it to be a pure source of water.


2.

Al-Aini wrote in his explanation of this hadith that, “This well was located on a steep slope of land. And floodwater would push the filth from the roads and the backyards and carry it along. Because of the large amount of water the filth of these things would not affect it or alter it. So they asked the Prophet (PBUH) about it in order to learn the ruling of whether it is pure or contaminated. His reply to them was that water is not contaminated and he meant by this large amounts of it like the water of this abundant well.”


3.

Al-Azim Abadi said about the well in his explanation of this hadith, “Not defiled by anything because of its large amount since the well of Buda’ah was a well with an abundance of water which was far greater than the Qulatain which is unaffected by mixing with these things. And large amounts of water are not defiled by anything as long as its properties do not change.”



Anyone with basic Islamic fiqh knowledge would know that urinating or bathing in stagnant water is forbidden.

Hence the first thing you assume when you see this hadith is that it's running water which it ofcourse is, the other thing to keep in mind is this water is used for "wudhu" no were does it state drinking water.

Such water naturally purifies itself as it moves along different layers of sand/clay/stone/rocks etc. which acts as natural filter as well as a source of mineralization.

The most expensive and effective water filters produced today even use this. Someone pissing into the ocean does not affect the properties of that water, the same with any other body of water that flows, you can perfectly make wudu in it.

Even the poisoned tap water they serve us which are laden with chemicals, they allow certain levels of over 1000 different pollutants provided it doesn't go above a certain threshold.

You can even taste the chlorine that's terrible for the stomach, your criticism is ironic because well water is 1000x more superior then the toxic filth you drink from the taps or the chemical BPA laden bottled waters.

This explanation of course is untrue. Anything that is as filthy as dead horses, menstrual rags and garbage will indeed effect a well and make the water impure. Imam Al-Tawahi was never around in Muhammad's time so he couldn't possibly know how big or small the well is.

Also worth noting that in Muhammads time they judged the purity of water by smell or color.

Sunan Ibn Majah 521--It was narrated that Abu Umamah Al-Bahili said: "The Messenger of Allah said: 'Water is not made impure by anything except that which changes its smell, taste and color.'"

But today we know that water can be filled with deadly germs that do not effect the color or smell of it.

 

[LI0N7]

Before any liars come in here and try to invalidate this Hadith and call it "fake" or "unreliable":

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As-Sunan as-Sughra (Arabic: السنن الصغرى‎), also known as Sunan an-Nasa'i (Arabic: سنن النسائي‎), is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadiths), and was collected by Al-Nasa'i.

Sunnis regard this collection as the third most important of their six major Hadith collections. Al-Mujtaba (English: the selected) has about 5,270 hadiths, including repeated narrations, which the author selected from his larger work, As-Sunan al-Kubra.

You have again made this mistake of assuming that because a Book of Hadith is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadiths), it contains no Weak or Inauthentic Hadiths.

Let me give you an example:

Sunan ibn Majah

It is to be noted that this book(Sunan ibn Majah) contains some daif(Weak) ahadith. Accordingly, the study is recommended to be done under a learned scholar to avoid misguidance. Examples of some weak narrations in this book are as follows: Example 1: https://islamqa.info/en/34890
Example 2: https://islamqa.info/en/120910

So as we can see, Sunan ibn Majah is the third most important of their six major Hadith collections, and i've posted some weak/unreliable narrations included in this book.

Whether a hadith is invalidated or not is irrelavant to it being in the major hadith collections. Learn little boy before posting.

 

[Inquisitive_]

This explanation of course is untrue. Anything that is as filthy as dead horses, menstrual rags and garbage will indeed effect a well and make the water impure.

Also worth noting that in Muhammads time they judged the purity of water by smell or color.

Sunan Ibn Majah 521--It was narrated that Abu Umamah Al-Bahili said: "The Messenger of Allah said: 'Water is not made impure by anything except that which changes its smell, taste and color.'"

But today we know that water can be filled with deadly germs that do not effect the color or smell of it.

The hadith is not talking about drinking water but water that is used for "Wudhu", I stated this in the above post.

The fact that you are still conflating the two shows your gross ignorance on this subject and how you know absolutely nothing about water, I doubt you would survive beyond 36 hours in a survival situation.

The Arabs like all other people always boiled water before they drank it if they were suspicious, had they not done this, they wouldn't have survived.

This is not dealing with drinking water but water for bathing/wudhu in terms of purity, even your own drinking water is not the same as the water you shower in you moron.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

The hadith is not talking about drinking water but water that is used for "Wudhu", I stated this in the above post, the fact your conflating the two shows your gross ignorance on this subject.

The Arabs like all other people always boiled water before they drank it, had they not done this, they wouldn't have survived.

This is not dealing with drinking water but water for bathing/wudhu, which is pure and which is impure, even your own drinking water is not the same as the water you shower in you moron.

Read my post you moron, I already said it deals with wudu. Never did I say this is about drinking.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

You have again made this mistake of assuming that because a Book of Hadith is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadiths), it contains no Weak or Inauthentic Hadiths.

Let me give you an example:

Sunan ibn Majah

It is to be noted that this book(Sunan ibn Majah) contains some daif(Weak) ahadith. Accordingly, the study is recommended to be done under a learned scholar to avoid misguidance. Examples of some weak narrations in this book are as follows: Example 1: https://islamqa.info/en/34890
Example 2: https://islamqa.info/en/120910

So as we can see, Sunan ibn Majah is the third most important of their six major Hadith collections, and i've posted some weak/unreliable narrations included in this book.

Whether a hadith is invalidated or not is irrelavant to it being in the major hadith collections. Learn little boy before posting.

I was giving the description of the source.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Read my post you moron, I already said it deals with wudu. Never did I say this is about drinking.

How does a large body of constantly running water (river, well, ocean) in a stream become impure? unless of course your thinking about it in terms of "drinking" water?

How do you as a kafir even understand the concept of pure water because in your world this means water that you can drink? and the hadith is not even dealing with water you can drink.

Do you consider ocean water that people shit, piss and dump all kinds of stuff in as a body of water that "pure" enough to bath in for you ? do you swim when you go to the beach ?

I have cornered you and boxed you in like the filthy rat that you are.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

How does a large body of constantly running source of water (river, well, ocean) become impure? unless of course your thinking about it in terms of "drinking" water?

How do you as a kafir even understand the concept of pure water because in your world this means water that you can drink? and the hadith is not even dealing with water you can drink.

Do you consider ocean water that people shit, piss and dump all kinds of stuff in as a body of water that "pure" enough to bath in for you ? do you swim when you go to the beach ?

I have cornered you and boxed you in like the filthy rat that you are.

What Hadith says the well of Buda'ah is "large body of constantly running water"? Not a single Hadith describes the well of Buda'ah, you just quoted some Imam who couldn't possible know anything about the well.

you're having a hard time coping with the fact that your prophet said that water contaminated with corpses, period blood and trash can never become impure.

 

[LI0N7]

I was giving the description of the source.

No you said this:

"Before any liars come in here and try to invalidate this Hadith and call it "fake" or "unreliable": As-Sunan as-Sughra (Arabic: السنن الصغرى‎), also known as Sunan an-Nasa'i (Arabic: سنن النسائي‎), is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadiths), and was collected by Al-Nasa'i.

Sunnis regard this collection as the third most important of their six major Hadith collections."

You giving the description of the source so as to dispel anyone claiming that the specific hadith is unreliable and invalidated.

I clearly showed that the Status of the the Book has nothing to do with the grading of a specific hadith(See previous post about Sunan Ibn Majah). So why give the description of the book then if you are mentioning a specific hadith in the book?

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

No you said this:

"Before any liars come in here and try to invalidate this Hadith and call it "fake" or "unreliable": As-Sunan as-Sughra (Arabic: السنن الصغرى‎), also known as Sunan an-Nasa'i (Arabic: سنن النسائي‎), is one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadiths), and was collected by Al-Nasa'i.

Sunnis regard this collection as the third most important of their six major Hadith collections."

You giving the description of the source so as to dispel anyone claiming that the specific hadith is unreliable and invalidated.

I clearly showed that the Status of the the Book has nothing to do with the grading of a specific hadith(See previous post about Sunan Ibn Majah). So why give the description of the book then if you are mentioning a specific hadith in the book?

Nope.

- I gave the description of the source showing that it's a book from six major Sunni Hadith collections. There are more than just six hadiths, and Muslims will invalidate any Hadith that isn't the Al-Sittah. It's important to specify.
- I mentioned the guy who graded the hadith Sahih
- I then gave the definition of Sahih

It was suppose to be one big post but I divided it into three separate posts. These three things make it impossible for you to call the Hadith posted fake or unreliable.

 

[Inquisitive_]

What Hadith says the well of Buda'ah is "large body of constantly running water"? Not a single Hadith describes the well of Buda'ah, you just quoted some Imam who couldn't possible know anything about the well.

you're having a hard time coping with the fact that your prophet said that water contaminated with corpses, period blood and trash can never become impure.

Busted! underground aquifers are NEVER STAGNANT, they always flow/stream, there are even well known underground rivers, again you know absolutely nothing about the properties of water.

You have failed to answer my question what you consider to be "pure water" and weather you consider bathing at the beach as "impure" since ocean water is the most polluted body of water in this world.

Tell us the properties of pure water that is supposedly safe to bath in as well as perform wudhu?

 

[LI0N7]

Nope.

- I gave the description of the source showing that it's a book from six major Sunni Hadith collections. There are more than just six hadiths, and Muslims will invalidate any Hadith that isn't the Al-Sittah. It's important to specify.
- I mentioned the guy who graded the hadith Sahih
- I then gave the definition of Sahih

It was suppose to be one big post but I divided it into three separate posts. These three things make it impossible for you to call the Hadith posted fake or unreliable.

You gave the description of the source so as to dispel anyone claiming that the specific hadith is unreliable and invalidated. Which is why you said this before the description: "Before any liars come in here and try to invalidate this Hadith and call it "fake" or "unreliable"

Im educating you by telling you that the placement of the book in the six major Sunni Hadith collections is irrelevant with regards to GRADING specific hadith. If the hadith is in Sunan ibn Majah(a book from six major Sunni Hadith collections), it can be Weak or Authentic. Please read my post above in this thread where i gave a specific example using the weak or unreliable hadiths in Sunan ibn Majah.

Also, there are more than Six highly esteemed and well-reputed books: https://www.australianislamiclibrary.org/the-authentic-collections.html

So next time, just give the hadith grading.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

Busted! underground aquifers are NEVER STAGNANT, they always flow/stream, there are even well known underground rivers, again you know absolutely nothing about the properties of water.

You have failed to answer my question what you consider to be "pure water" and weather you consider bathing at the beach as "impure" since ocean water is the most polluted body of water in this world.

Tell us the properties of pure water as it relates to bathing.

It turns out you're the one whose been busted. You failed to show proof that the well of Buda'ah was "large" and "constantly flowing" or any other quality of it. The Hadith doesn't give a single description of it. Instead you posted a quote by an Imam who we don't even know actually seen the well.

Any well that has a dead horse in it, a bunch of used menstrual rags in it and garbage IS CONTAMINATED AND IMPURE

And in wudu, you have to rinse your mouth and nose. So Muhammad had people put contimated water in their mouth which would've went against the whole concept of Wudu

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

You gave the description of the source so as to dispel anyone claiming that the specific hadith is unreliable and invalidated. Which is why you said this before the description: "Before any liars come in here and try to invalidate this Hadith and call it "fake" or "unreliable"

Im educating you by telling you that the placement of the book in the six major Sunni Hadith collections is irrelevant with regards to GRADING specific hadith. If the hadith is in Sunan ibn Majah(a book from six major Sunni Hadith collections), it can be Weak or Authentic. Please read my post above in this thread where i gave a specific example using the weak or unreliable hadiths in Sunan ibn Majah.

Also, there are more than Six highly esteemed and well-reputed books: https://www.australianislamiclibrary.org/the-authentic-collections.html

So next time, just give the hadith grading.

You're trying so hard but you're not actually proving anything. Sure, I'm talking about a specific Hadith, but what if someone questions if the Hadith came from a book outside of the Al-Sittah? Then they would've invalidated it, called it fake and unreliable from the jump. That's why it's important to specifiy that it's one of the six major sunni Hadith collections.

Do-you-under-stand?

 

[LI0N7]

You're trying so hard but you're not actually proving anything. Sure, I'm talking about a specific Hadith, but what if someone questions if the Hadith came from a book outside of the Al-Sittah? Then they would've invalidated it, called it fake and unreliable from the jump. That's why it's important to specifiy that it's one of the six major sunni Hadith collections.

Do-you-under-stand?

"but what if someone questions if the Hadith came from a book outside of the Al-Sittah"

Okay my friend, i understand. My mistake.

Tell those "Moderate" Moslems there is more than six, rather i would say eight. Since you didn't read the link:

1. Sahih Bukhari
2. Sahih Muslim
3. Sunan Abu Dawood
4. Jami al-Tirmidhi,
5. Sunan al-Sughra
6. Sunan ibn Majah
   
7. Muwatta Malik
8. Musnad Imam Ahmad

Did you respond to the "Girls urine is worse than boys" Refutation i made? if not, just delete the post for sincerity or rename the title to its correct interpretation.

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

"but what if someone questions if the Hadith came from a book outside of the Al-Sittah"

Okay my friend, i understand. My mistake.

Tell those "Moderate" Moslems there is more than six, rather i would say eight. Since you didn't read the link:

1. 
   
   
   • Sahih Bukhari
   • Sahih Muslim
   • Sunan Abu Dawood
   • Jami al-Tirmidhi,
   • Sunan al-Sughra
   • Sunan ibn Majah
   • Muwatta Malik
   • Musnad Imam Ahmad

Did you respond to the "Girls urine is worse than boys" Refutation i made? if not, just delete the post for sincerity or rename the title to its correct interpretation.

I will try to get back to you on the urine Hadith soon.