President Hasan Sheikh visits Maxaas, Hiraan

[The Midlands]

What I managed to gather from all that is “were bigger than abgaal in Hirshabelle”.

According to the first census of the Somali republic and the latest accurate census ever conducted in Somalia, the population of Hiraan is about 2/3rds that of S.dhexe. Even though Hiraan is much larger b, abgaal S.dhexe is very densely populated with a continuous ring of farms and animal enclosure straddling from Mogadishu and Balcad all the way up to Xarardheere in Mudug.View attachment 243673

According to the 2014 UN population estimate however, Hiraan and S.Dhexe are similar in population.View attachment 243675
The 2014 estimate is a much less accurate representation of population than the 1975 population census, but for argument sake lets say the two gobols are equal in population.

Since most Reer HS abgaal live in S.dhexe (excluding the abgaal of Jalalaqsi district including Xalfooley) and most Hawadle live in Hiran (excluding the few families in western Jowhar and burane), we can conclude the larger clan would be whichever one has a larger share in their respective gobol.

Let’s look at the clans with established deegan in each gobol and compare the two, What we know is that S.dhexe is settled by

1)Abgaal
2)Shidle
3)Gaaljecel
4)moobleen

And Hiraan is settled by

1)Hawadle
2)Gaaljecel
3)Jajeele
4)Makane
5)Baadicade
6)Udejeen
7)Cayr
8)Reer shabelle
9)Surre dir
10)Reer aw hassan

With all these clans having towns/villages which come under Hiraan.

Now let’s look at the individual districts. Hiraan has 5 districts. The DC in each district hails from:

1)Beledweyne district: DC=Gaaljecel
2)Buuloburte district: DC=Hawadle
3)Jalalaqsi district: DC=Hawadle
4)Mataban district:DC=Habargidir
5)Maxaas district DC=Hawadle

Now In S.Dhexe;

1)Balcad district: DC=Mataan Cabdulle AB
2)Jowhar district: DC=Shidle (although the mayor of Jowhar town is moobleen)
3)Mahadaay district: DC=Agoonyar (waliba my jufo siyeeda dhab Celi agoonyar) AB
4)Warshiiq districts: DC=Celi Cumar AB
5)Cadale district: DC= Harti Abgaal
6)Aadan yabaal district:DC= Harti Abgaal
7)Run nigrood district: DC= Wacbudhan Abgaal

In total in Hirshabelle Hawadle have 3/12 districts while Abgaal have 6/12 districts. Do you think we achieved this through bariyo?

It all comes down to the single fact that Middle shabelle is mine and Hiraan is not yours

BS. Gaaljecel have no single district while Abgaal have 7 have you asked yourself why? it has to do with Xamar your real home!
Hiiraan had 5 districts when Middle shabelle had 4 and they r Jowhar, Balcad, adan Yabaal and another one not sure now. out of sudden they got extra 3 in 1990 when XL and HG USC get closer. Buuloburde was freed in November 1990 and Xamar got freed on 26 january 1991! Siyaad barre started distributing Degmo left and right for Abgaal so Abgaal won't join the war. its the same thing Farmaajo did for you bc of this useless Caasimad if this Caasimad was moved to Galkacyo we will have the upper hand on Abgaal in Hirshabelle but we r sidelined by every govt to appease the Abgaal in Xamar. except from the farming Madow dominated villages nothing there in the coastal side of Abgaal its a ghost area. Govt is controlled by Abgaal all these surveys are fake. you Have Baladweyne the biggest South central city and comparing it to the little towns of Middle shabelle kkkkk
another Fact that there is no big abgaals in Middle shabelle is that it has 9 amisom bases and 4500 amisom troops while Hiiraan has 4 amisom bases and 2000 Djibouti amisom and few hundredss of Ethiopians. you had amisom bases between them 15 km like Ceelbaraf and mahaday before Al Shabaab recepture ceelbaraf. i will share you all the links of every abgaal villages with amisom troops. in Jowhar you have Amisom protecting madaxtooyada Hirshabelle guudlaawe cant stay one night without Amisom but in Baladweyne amisom are based 6km from the town in Ceeljaale. if we had amisom in lamagalaay Al Shabaab will not be able to attack it bc they r able to infiltrate in our soldiers some times Dhiboutians go there for work and went back to their base

why "Qawmiyada" abgaal has 9 amisom bases in 120 km?

the empty quarters of Abgaal side i see why claiming Madow villages

Somalia Reference Map - Middle Shabelle Region (24 Oct 2012) - Somalia

Map in English on Somalia; published on 24 Oct 2012 by OCHA

reliefweb.int

 

[Macawisley]

What I managed to gather from all that is “were bigger than abgaal in Hirshabelle”.

According to the first census of the Somali republic and the latest accurate census ever conducted in Somalia, the population of Hiraan is about 2/3rds that of S.dhexe. Even though Hiraan is much larger b, abgaal S.dhexe is very densely populated with a continuous ring of farms and animal enclosure straddling from Mogadishu and Balcad all the way up to Xarardheere in Mudug.View attachment 243673

According to the 2014 UN population estimate however, Hiraan and S.Dhexe are similar in population.View attachment 243675
The 2014 estimate is a much less accurate representation of population than the 1975 population census, but for argument sake lets say the two gobols are equal in population.

Since most Reer HS abgaal live in S.dhexe (excluding the abgaal of Jalalaqsi district including Xalfooley) and most Hawadle live in Hiran (excluding the few families in western Jowhar and burane), we can conclude the larger clan would be whichever one has a larger share in their respective gobol.

Let’s look at the clans with established deegan in each gobol and compare the two, What we know is that S.dhexe is settled by

1)Abgaal
2)Shidle
3)Gaaljecel
4)moobleen

And Hiraan is settled by

1)Hawadle
2)Gaaljecel
3)Jajeele
4)Makane
5)Baadicade
6)Udejeen
7)Cayr
8)Reer shabelle
9)Surre dir
10)Reer aw hassan

With all these clans having towns/villages which come under Hiraan.

Now let’s look at the individual districts. Hiraan has 5 districts. The DC in each district hails from:

1)Beledweyne district: DC=Gaaljecel
2)Buuloburte district: DC=Hawadle
3)Jalalaqsi district: DC=Hawadle
4)Mataban district:DC=Habargidir
5)Maxaas district DC=Hawadle

Now In S.Dhexe;

1)Balcad district: DC=Mataan Cabdulle AB
2)Jowhar district: DC=Shidle (although the mayor of Jowhar town is moobleen)
3)Mahadaay district: DC=Agoonyar (waliba my jufo siyeeda dhab Celi agoonyar) AB
4)Warshiiq districts: DC=Celi Cumar AB
5)Cadale district: DC= Harti Abgaal
6)Aadan yabaal district:DC= Harti Abgaal
7)Run nigrood district: DC= Wacbudhan Abgaal

In total in Hirshabelle Hawadle have 3/12 districts while Abgaal have 6/12 districts. Do you think we achieved this through bariyo?

It all comes down to the single fact that Middle shabelle is mine and Hiraan is not yours

Xawaadle is Deputy Governor of Middle Shabelle (Gudoomiye ku xigeenka Amniga Iyo Siyaasada Gobalka Shabellaha Dhexe) after Axmed Faal, how did we get that position if we don’t live in Middle Shabelle?

What I managed to gather from your post is that Hiiraan is shared by every Tom Dick and Harry but Middle Shabelle is just “mUdOLoOd” Niyahow either let’s respect each other’s power in Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle or we include all yaryars equally in both regions ciyaarta naga dhaafa Abgaaloow

 

[Libaax-Joore]

President hassan shieq mohamud should fight this khaweriji terriost to the last man

 

[Libaax-Joore]

View attachment 243643
Hirshabelle clan map. I lumped Gaaljecel an Baadicadde together waa wiil iyo abti don't know how they share Hiiraan.


@The Midlands welcome eebow, ilmo Daaro Mudulood are underrepresented here.

Who is purple,greeen and maroon

 

[Prince of HS]

Who is purple,greeen and maroon

purple - Abgaal/Mudulood
Green- Gugudhabe
Maroon - xawaadle
Black- shiidle/makane along the river bank

 

[Prince of HS]

Xawaadle is Deputy Governor of Middle Shabelle (Gudoomiye ku xigeenka Amniga Iyo Siyaasada Gobalka Shabellaha Dhexe) after Axmed Faal, how did we get that position if we don’t live in Middle Shabelle?

What I managed to gather from your post is that Hiiraan is shared by every Tom Dick and Harry but Middle Shabelle is just “mUdOLoOd” Niyahow either let’s respect each other’s power in Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle or we include all yaryars equally in both regions ciyaarta naga dhaafa Abgaaloow

You can’t compare abgaal dominance in MS to xawaadle in Hiraan. If I do you a favour and include every clan in each region, S/Dhexe still only has 4 clans whilst Hiraan has a whooping 10

Middle shabelle:
-Mudulood
-Shiidle
-GJ
- XL ( couple villages like burane for example)

Hiraan:

-XL
-Makane
-Baadicade
-Ujejeen
-Jijeele
-GJ
-Habargidir
- Jiidle
- Aw xasan
- Abgaal in jalalaqsi district recently

 

[Macawisley]

You can’t compare abgaal dominance in MS to xawaadle in Hiraan. If I do you a favour and include every clan in each region, S/Dhexe still only has 4 clans whilst Hiraan has a whooping 10

Middle shabelle:
-Mudulood
-Shiidle
-GJ
- XL ( couple villages like burane for example)

Hiraan:

-XL
-Makane
-Baadicade
-Ujejeen
-Jijeele
-GJ
-Habargidir
- Jiidle
- Aw xasan
- Abgaal in jalalaqsi district recently

Lol, I can’t with you what is this you split Gugundhabe into like 3 clans and you know damn well Reer Aw Xassan don’t even live in our federal state ever asked yourself why they took Ujejen’s spot in the state?

stop the games my fellow Abgaal neighbour


Hiiraan

• Hawadle
• Gugundhabe
• Makanne
• Gaaljecel
• Ujejen
• Habargidir

Those are the people who have real ancestral lands in the region.


Middle Shabelle

• Mudolood
• Hawadle
• Shiidle
• Reer Shabelle
• Eylo
• Gaaljecel
• Carab
• Galgala

Hawadle - Superior in Hiiraan
Abgaal - Superior in Middle Shabelle

 

[CanoGeel]

President hassan shieq mohamud should fight this khaweriji terriost to the last man

MashAllah Our African Hawiye brothers here have finally woke up from their long slumber.

Guul to our African Xawiye people

 

[Rationale]

Lol, I can’t with you what is this you split Gugundhabe into like 3 clans and you know damn well Reer Aw Xassan don’t even live in our federal state ever asked yourself why they took Ujejen’s spot in the state?

stop the games my fellow Abgaal neighbour


Hiiraan

• Hawadle
• Gugundhabe
• Makanne
• Gaaljecel
• Ujejen
• Habargidir

Those are the people who have real ancestral lands in the region.


Middle Shabelle

• Mudolood
• Hawadle
• Shiidle
• Reer Shabelle
• Eylo
• Gaaljecel
• Carab
• Galgala

Hawadle - Superior in Hiiraan
Abgaal - Superior in Middle Shabelle

Over 50% of Hiiraan is non Xawaadle land.
85% of MS is Mudulood land.

 

[Jungle]

@The Midlands

Apart from ex-Somnet Bibz. most of the guys you are FKDing in this thread with are relative minors in comparison to you.

nigga who the hell are you

 

[anonimo]

nigga who the hell are you

My bad man, thought I was being discreet by using 'Bibz'.

Just an Ol acquaintance from the Good Ol' Somnet days. No harm intended.

 

[Rationale]

@The Midlands

Apart from ex-Somnet Bibz. most of the guys you are FKDing in this thread with are relative minors in comparison to you.

Walaal cilmi da' maleh. Its anonymous site, say your opinions in a civil manner no need to absolve yourself from debates. Put off the gloves, and join the jungle.

 

[anonimo]

Walaal cilmi da' maleh. Its anonymous site, say your opinions in a civil manner no need to absolve yourself from debates. Put off the gloves, and join the jungle.

I've slipped up once or twice like a recovering Alchi but there comes a time when one must resist the call of this fratricidal, savage Somali sport as the wisdom of age kicks in.