Potential coup attempt in niger

[GemState]

You gotta be a shill, no way one views Frances economic dominance over West/Central Africa a good thing.

Wagner = French Legion

Democracy is just a system the West uses against poor countries to get their patsies in, Singapore and South Korea didn't need democracy to develop, once they did is when they eased into it (Singapore's political system is still rigged btw).

Clown take

The reason people all over the world are obsessed with democracy is that it grants people political predictability and stability. Nothing to do with development.

 

[Chase]

Clown take

The reason people all over the world are obsessed with democracy is that it grants people political predictability and stability. Nothing to do with development.

Democracy is good for developed Nations, not poor/developing ones.

 

[zeilaprime]

The problem with "African democracy" is that it comes with no development. You just stay poor but get to vote every 4 years. This is why coups will always happen. But African military juntas are even worse at development than democratic governments. Africa really is uniquely fucked.

 

[Khaem]

Clown take

The reason people all over the world are obsessed with democracy is that it grants people political predictability and stability. Nothing to do with development.

The world isn't obsessed with democracy. Stop gurgling on the cadaan cock warya.

 

[Khaem]

The problem with "African democracy" is that it comes with no development. You just stay poor but get to vote every 4 years. This is why coups will always happen. But African military juntas are even worse at development than democratic governments. Africa really is uniquely fucked.

No sun saharan African country is centralised. There's no single faction that has a monopoly on power and violence in any country. You can't develop if people will throw a revolution or coup every couple years.

 

[GaradShabeel]

No sun saharan African country is centralised. There's no single faction that has a monopoly on power and violence in any country. You can't develop if people will throw a revolution or coup every couple years.

Eritrea fits your description perfectly

 

[Khaem]

Eritrea fits your description perfectly

Eritrea is an exception, had it not been isolated from the world it would be the richest country in Africa. Eritrea still has some obstacles but it is going places if they manage to get a leader that can industrialise the country.

 

[zeilaprime]

No sun saharan African country is centralised. There's no single faction that has a monopoly on power and violence in any country. You can't develop if people will throw a revolution or coup every couple years.

Eritrea is a fully centralized government and it has a lower internet access than Somalia. You need legitimacy and competence not just power and violence. Africa has yet to produce one
Lee Kuan Yew, Park Chung-hee or Deng Xiaoping. The continent needs a new elite or it's doomed.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Eritrea is an exception, had it not been isolated from the world it would be the richest country in Africa. Eritrea still has some obstacles but it is going places if they manage to get a leader that can industrialise the country.

Given their internal and external woes, Eritrea directly/indirectly isolated themselves from the world and not the opposite way, lol. Stop excusing them, the country's leaders are not victims but the perpetrator who are reason for the state of Eritrea today.

 

[Khaem]

Given their internal and external woes, Eritrea directly/indirectly isolated themselves from the world and not the opposite way, lol. Stop excusing them, the country's leaders are not victims but the perpetrator who are reason for the state of Eritrea today.

I may have phrased that wrong. I meant that it was centralised state but isolated from the rest of the world. Had a new elite taken over the government and opened the country up for trade and commerce, it could industrialise into a wealthy state. The first step for a country to industrialise is to become a centralised state. All industrialised countries went through a phase of warfare between different factions until one group of the elite took power. Japan went through that in the 1860s where the shogun (essentially military dictator) fell and the emperor took back power and centralised the country and started the industrialisation process. Originally Japan was under a Shogun and the emperor was a figurehead, the country was divided by clans until the emperor slowly dissolved the clans and created a unitary state.
Germany was a series of many states who saw themselves as a part of the wider "German" people but had strong regional loyalties, this changed when one of those states, Prussia, conquered the rest and united Germany.

The problem in Somalia is that all major clans are relatively equal in power and no one group can take over and unite the country under one leader in a similar manner to other nations.

 

[Chase]

Eritrea fits your description perfectly

Eritrea is sanctioned by the entire free world, hardly a comparison to draw from.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Eritrea is sanctioned by the entire free world, hardly a comparison to draw from.

Yeah, as a result of their own 'wrongdoings'. Hence why the world isolated them, including non-western countries that usually are against sanctions. I don't dislike Eritrea, but their leaders put themselves into this shoes

 

[Burqad]

Clown take

The reason people all over the world are obsessed with democracy is that it grants people political predictability and stability. Nothing to do with development.

Right. A stable dictatorship would be good too but Africans can’t achieve that either. Succession needs to be formalized and elections are the cheapest way of formalizing them

 

[la vida loca]

I’m not disregarding the influence western powers have on African countries. My point was, whether you remove them or not, most African problems will remain: corruption, authoritarianism, internal violence/instability due to lack of social cohesion, food insecurity/poverty, high unemployment, combatting effects of climate change, inadequate healthcare etc.

It seems like African (especially authoritarian) leaders tries to lure their people from recognizing the real issues and causes behind them. Rallying behind anti-western rhetorics will only exacerbate these problems.

Good luck with having military junta ruling the country instead of a civilian gov’t that’s ‘western backed’. The locals will realize in due time when those authoritarian/military leaders are part of the same problem, if not worse than the ‘western puppets’.

Like I said. It is better to be poor and free than be poor and a puppet of the French. Even by African standards French west africa has lower growth than other countries.

 

[Coolpirate69]

FRENCH CRIMINAL COLONIZERS,, YOUR TIME OF OPPRESSION IN AFRICA IS UP.. YOU MUST LEAVE BY FIRE BY FORCE

 

[SamaaleCushite]

FRENCH CRIMINAL COLONIZERS,, YOUR TIME OF OPPRESSION IN AFRICA IS UP.. YOU MUST LEAVE BY FIRE BY FORCE

 

[Coolpirate69]

The African nation of Niger is the 4th largest producer of Uranium in the world. Most of Nigers Uranium mines are owned & operated by French companies. Uranium from Niger produces 40% of France's electricity, while only 11% of the People of Niger have access to electricity.

Over the past 40 years, 270 billion litters (Over 6 billion litters a year) of Niger's already scarce water supply, is used in the extraction of Uranium from Niger, leaving local farmers & cattle herders to fight each other over the diminishing fresh water supply.

Matter of fact, water scarcity is the primary driver of violence & instability in Niger. France & the U.S had troops in Niger to maintain S̵t̵a̵b̵i̵l̵i̵t̵y̵ ̵their resource colony.

All the waste from the Uranium refined in France was then shipped back to Africa. Over the past 40 years, 45 million tonnes of radioactive waste hasp been dumped in Niger, mostly on the land of the Tuareg people, leaving them with some of the highest rates of cancer in the world

 

[Coolpirate69]

 

[Burqad]

The African nation of Niger is the 4th largest producer of Uranium in the world. Most of Nigers Uranium mines are owned & operated by French companies. Uranium from Niger produces 40% of France's electricity, while only 11% of the People of Niger have access to electricity.

Over the past 40 years, 270 billion litters (Over 6 billion litters a year) of Niger's already scarce water supply, is used in the extraction of Uranium from Niger, leaving local farmers & cattle herders to fight each other over the diminishing fresh water supply.

Matter of fact, water scarcity is the primary driver of violence & instability in Niger. France & the U.S had troops in Niger to maintain S̵t̵a̵b̵i̵l̵i̵t̵y̵ ̵their resource colony.

All the waste from the Uranium refined in France was then shipped back to Africa. Over the past 40 years, 45 million tonnes of radioactive waste hasp been dumped in Niger, mostly on the land of the Tuareg people, leaving them with some of the highest rates of cancer in the world

The dominant southerners dump all of the nuclear waste on the tueregs because they’re racists who hate them.