Poll says Somali women are the ones who fan the flame of tribalism in Somalia.

[mohamedismail]

 

[Lahaine]

Yeah man capitalized Somali women and not Somali men I'm sure he's not a bias man

 

[Bazed]

Ah yes, the most reliable source. Twitter, I can always trust Twitter.

 

[Camaar]

They are not lying

 

[Abdixakim]

no

 

[mohamedismail]

They are not lying

Never understood women who are so caught up with Qabiil and qabyaalad when it barely even benefits them. It's very likely the children a woman births won't even be from the same qabiil as her.

 

[boredandtired]

Somali men can't ever take accountability huh

 

[The Oponian Guild]

I don’t think it’s a problem though, women are the backbone of every Somali clan, and in the old days, whenever clans battled, women would harangue and insult those men who fled from battle or showed cowardice.

 

[attash]

Very dumb question. It's like asking which clan is responsible for the civil war.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Never understood women who are so caught up with Qabiil and qabyaalad when it barely even benefits them. It's very likely the children a woman births won't even be from the same qabiil as her.

Here comes the Bantu misogynist! A woman's children don't have to be her qabiil, they are something even closer to her, her CHILDREN, duh. Her children who have been told that heaven is under her feet, not under the father's feet.
Mayɓe in your Bantu circles women don't have a family or identity. But ethnic Somali women have fathers, and families they are part of. We are not wecels floating around in space.

Of course qabiil benefits us. These are the family members that protect us during warfare and pay bills (qaaraan) when disaster strikes. Who else helps Somali women?? The Government? Lmao.

Who are women meant to support instead? Some man that can divorce her any second?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I don’t think it’s a problem though, women are the backbone of every Somali clan, and in the old days, whenever clans battled, women would harangue and insult those men who fled from battle or showed cowardice.

This little Bantu @mohamedismail is always trying to instigate gender wars on here.

If our qabiil aka family, gets defeated, it is us women who get it the worst! Which woman is not backing her male relatives?

Some of these people are not even Somali so they fail to comprehend basic facts. Women are human beings who gave families they are part of, we are not fatherless livestock. Funnily enough, the same misogynist pricks who post such things like to tell half-Cadaan girls that they are Somali because "your daddy is Somali".

 

[mohamedismail]

Here comes the Bantu misogynist! A woman's children don't have to be her qabiil, they are something even closer to her, her CHILDREN, duh. Her children who have been told that heaven is under her feet, not under the father's feet.
Mayɓe in your Bantu circles women don't have a family or identity. But ethnic Somali women have fathers, and families they are part of. We are not wecels floating around in space.

Of course qabiil benefits us. These are the family members that protect us during warfare and pay bills (qaaraan) when disaster strikes. Who else helps Somali women?? The Government? Lmao.

Who are women meant to support instead? Some man that can divorce her any second?

This little Bantu @mohamedismail is always trying to instigate gender wars on here.

If our qabiil aka family, gets defeated, it is us women who get it the worst! Which woman is not backing her male relatives?

Some of these people are not even Somali so they fail to comprehend basic facts. Women are human beings who gave families they are part of, we are not fatherless livestock. Funnily enough, the same misogynist pricks who post such things like to tell half-Cadaan girls that they are Somali because "your daddy is Somali".

What do Bantus have to do with anything I said. I just stated my personal opinion. No need to drag innocent bantus into this.

Your unhealthy obsession with Bantus really needs to be studied. Are Bantus your type or something?

Nin Bantu maa Ku soo xumeeyey?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

What do Bantus have to do with anything I said. I just stated my personal opinion. No need to drag innocent bantus into this.

Your unhealthy obsession with Bantus really needs to be studied. Are Bantus your type or something?

Nin Bantu maa Ku soo xumeeyey?

All you do on here is try to instigate gender wars everywhere. Whether it is on here, twitter or other platforms. You are a shisheeye SHAYDAAN and I see through you.

 

[Baarisiyomoos]

i agree on this one. it never made sense to me to see women boast about their qabil or be discriminatory against people of other qabils as if a woman’s qabil is of any value in our culture. no matter what you are as a woman your kids will always be regarded first and foremost as their father‘s children. im personally not a fan of that notion but culture is hard to change. that’s why idgaf about qabils or feel any loyalty towards them. why should i?

 

[Baarisiyomoos]

This little Bantu @mohamedismail is always trying to instigate gender wars on here.

If our qabiil aka family, gets defeated, it is us women who get it the worst! Which woman is not backing her male relatives?

Some of these people are not even Somali so they fail to comprehend basic facts. Women are human beings who gave families they are part of, we are not fatherless livestock. Funnily enough, the same misogynist pricks who post such things like to tell half-Cadaan girls that they are Somali because "your daddy is Somali".

It’s just the way our culture is set up sis. i don’t like it either but i don’t feel any connection to “my” qabil. family, general culture, religion and region, sure. but qabil? even as a child i knew this shit was not meant for us.

Case in point, i could marry a man who has one great great great great paternal grandfather that is non Somali (meaning he has no qabi), and our kids would not be considered Somali even though they are, genetically 90+% somali. my brother and his sons and grandsons, etc could have children with cadaan, indho yaar, timo jileec, literal aliens and his sons will forever be Somali. lmao it used to upset me but now i don’t care. why should i be reverent and loyal towards a culture that views you as a vessel for children and nothing more? as soon as i understood that i found peace!!

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

i agree on this one. it never made sense to me to see women boast about their qabil or be discriminatory against people of other qabils as if a woman’s qabil is of any value in our culture. no matter what you are as a woman your kids will always be regarded first and foremost as their father‘s children. im personally not a fan of that notion but culture is hard to change. that’s why idgaf about qabils or feel any loyalty towards them. why should i?

If women have no qabiil, by the same line of thinking, we have no ethnicity either.

Abayo, you are linking your identity to the identity of your children instead of accepting your own identity. You have a father, a family and a lineage you are part and parcel of.

You are not your child and your child is not you. You will not carry the name of your husband or your son.

Secondly. What about the women who do not have children? Do you see the flaw in this logic?

Abayo, walahi this line of thinking is misogynist and it makes women seem as if we are fatherless wecelo who get passed from man to man to bear kids. Don't ever believe this shit.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

It’s just the way our culture is set up sis. i don’t like it either but i don’t feel any connection to “my” qabil. family, general culture, religion and region, sure. but qabil? even as a child i knew this shit was not meant for us.

Case in point, i could marry a man who has one great great great great paternal grandfather that is non Somali (meaning he has no qabi), and our kids would not be considered Somali even though they are, genetically 90+% somali. my brother and his sons and grandsons, etc could have children with cadaan, indho yaar, timo jileec, literal aliens and his sons will forever be Somali. lmao it used to upset me but now i don’t care. why should i be reverent and loyal towards a culture that views you as a vessel for children and nothing more? as soon as i understood that i found peace!!

Abayo, the only thing us women don't do is pass on our name. That does not mean we are nameless, fatherless, family-less let alone qabiil-less.

It is in the interest of misogynist men to tell the lie that women have no family, because they want you to be a blind slave. Nobody can take your name from you.

Also, if you lived in Somalia, even without a nuclear family, as a widow or a single woman, guess who you would live with? Guess who would have your back if you were attacked?

 

[Dalac Bilaash]

It's the women's nature to gossip and convince men to do more harm not only Somali women it's every type of women it's called gubaabo in af Somali

 

[Baarisiyomoos]

If women have no qabiil, by the same line of thinking, we have no ethnicity either.

Abayo, you are linking your identity to the identity of your children instead of accepting your own identity. You have a father, a family and a lineage you are part and parcel of.

You are not your child and your child is not you. You will not carry the name of your husband or your son.

Secondly. What about the women who do not have children? Do you see the flaw in this logic?

Abayo, walahi this line of thinking is misogynist and it makes women seem as if we are fatherless wecelo who get passed from man to man to bear kids. Don't ever believe this shit.

Abaayo i agree that we are not our children, and that we do not take on our husband’s lineage, but are your children not simply a continuation of you? a representative for future generations regarding who you are? I have my father’s name but nothing of my mother’s is carried on in me in terms of qabil. my ancestry is recorded simply through my father‘s side, that’s why i say i don’t care for my qabil, it is a one dimensional representation of my lineage. your qabil is not your ethnicity.

And Wallahi I say this because I am the biggest feminist and want the best for Somali women. the sooner we can focus on other matters not regarding qabil, the better off we will be. I have a lineage, a culture, a country and a religion and I am proud of that. But qabil is simply my father’s lineage and i don’t respect that it does not represent my mother’s immense role in my values and upbringing. so im impartial to it. Im Somali and Muslim and that’s all that matters

 

[Baarisiyomoos]

Abayo, the only thing us women don't do is pass on our name. That does not mean we are nameless, fatherless, family-less let alone qabiil-less.

It is in the interest of misogynist men to tell the lie that women have no family, because they want you to be a blind slave. Nobody can take your name from you.

Also, if you lived in Somalia, even without a nuclear family, as a widow or a single woman, guess who you would live with? Guess who would have your back if you were attacked?

I understand abayo , of course i have a father, a family and a culture. but my qabil is not mine. i do not feel any overwhelming connection to my name or my abtirsi, its just a long line of men in my family. no complaints there, that’s how last names work in Islam and our culture. i simply don’t find that it represents me or my mother and grandmothers. so I don’t spend time arguing over qabil or repping something that i do not care for