PL: Proposed constitutional amendments

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Noteworthy:
a) [56] No longer Parliamentarian with the public electing MPs, President, and VP.
b) [46](3) No limitation as to the number of political parties, with any party, which garners 5% of the Local Council elections recognised as a political party.
c) [90] Supreme Court justices have no term limitation.
d) [98][113] Permenant Election Commission has neither term limitation, nor preset numbers. 6 shall be appointed by Executive & Legisleture, with each political party having a representation.

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Golaha wakiilada ee Puntland ayaa maanta oo taartiikhdu tahay 25 Luuliyo isku raacey in wax laga beddelo ilaa 7 qodob oo ka mid ah dastuurka Puntland, waxaa fadhiga soo xaadirey 60 Mudane oo kamid ah 66 Golaha Wakiiladu ka kooban yihiin.

1. Qodobka 7aad farqadiisa (1) Dhulka Puntland waxa uu ka kooban yahay gobollada Bari, Nugaal, Sool, Cayn, Karkaar, Mudug, Heylaan iyo Sanaag, waxaa lagu daray Raas Casayr oo horey loo oran jirey Gardafuu kaas oo la magacaabey sanadkii 2013 kadib markii dastuurka la asnixisyey.
2. Qodobka 44aad Farqadiisa (2) waxay u dhigney sidan: Xubnaha Golaha Wakiillada iyo Golayaasha Degmooyinka waa mansabyada dadweynuhu tooska u dooranayaan. Waxaa lagu daray in Madaxweynaha iyo ku-xigeenkiisu ay yihiin mansabyada dadweynuhu soo dooroanayaan.
3. Qodobka 46aad Farqadiisa (3) oo dhigneyd sidan: Saddexda urur siyaasadeed ee ugu codadka badan tartanka kowaad ee Golayaasha Deegaanka ayaa noqonaya saddexda xisbi siyaasadeed ee rasmiga ah. Qodobkan si weyn ayaa loo beddalay, waxaana muuqata in uu qabyo yahay, inkasta oo aan dastuurka wax kumeel-gaar ah lagu dhigin ayaa qodabkan laba fasiraad lee yahay waxaana wax ka beddelkiisi loo dhigey sidan: Ururada siyaasadeed ee doorashada kowaad ee goloyaasha deegaanka ka hela xubno ayaa noqonaya xisbiyada siyaasadeed ee rasmiga ah, waxaa lagu daray qodob afaraad oo oranaya: Doorashooyinka xiga xisbiyadu waxay noqonayaan shantii sanaba mar, waxaana xisbi noqonaya urur siyaasadeedkii hela 5% tirada guud ee goloyaasha deegaanada Puntland.
4. Qodobka 56 aad: Hanaanka Dowladda Puntland ee ahayd Baarlamaani waxaa loo beddalay, In aytahay Dimoqraadi dadweynhu soo dooranayaan Madaxweynaha iyo ku-xigeenkiisa.
5. Qodobka 62aad: Sababaha lagu dhumin karo Xasanaadda xildhibaanimo, waxaa lagu daray qodobkan farqad cusub (d) Marki Xubinta xildhbaan kamid ah Golaha wakiilada laga qaadayo xasaanadda waa in ay oggolaadaan 2/3 tirada guud ee xubnaha golaha wakiilada.
6. Qodobka 64aad Waxa uu ka hadlayaa awoodaha Golaha wakilada in ay ka mid tahay Doorashada Madaxweynaha, farqadda ka hadleysa ee (8) ayaa meesha laga saarey.
7. Qodobka 90aad: Maxkamadda Sare: Wuxuu ka kooban yahay shan farqadood, waxaa laga saarey hal farqad oo ka hadleysa muddo xileedka Maxkamadda sare in ay tahay shan sano, waxaana hadda laga dhigey muddo aan cayineyn waxaa xilka ka qaadi kara Golaha wakiilada oo ah cod haldheeri 1/2+1
8. Qodobka 112 ee ka hadlaaya dhismaha guddiga doorashooyinka, waxaa laga bedalay oo keliya muddada ay jirayaan oo ahayd 6 sano waxaa laga dhigey mid aan xili lahayn, waxaana ay xilka ku waayi karaan si lamid ah Maxkamadda dasuuriga ah qodobka 98aad:

• b. Haddii ay lumiso shuruudihii lagu soo doortay mid ka mid ah.
• t. Geeriyooto ama ay ku dhacdo jirro ay la gudan waydo xilkeeda.
• j. Istiqaalo keento lagana aqbalo.
• x. Ku xad gudubto Shareecda Islaamka, Dastuurka iyo qawaaniinta Dalka.
• Kh. Maxkamadi ku xukunto fal dambiyeed culus.

1. Qodobka 113 ee isla Guddiga doorashada, waxaa meesha laga saarey tiradoodi ahayd 9, waxaana laga dhigey in 6 kamid ah ay soo kala magacaabayaan Madaxweynaha iyo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka, halka Xisbiyada jira oo aan tiradooda la aqoon midkastaa xubin ku soo daraayo.

Intaan waa nuxurka wax ka beddelka ee dastuurka ay ku sameeyeen Golaha wakiilada Puntland.

Horseed Media

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

This greatly benefits the opposition, more so than they recognise, or would admit to, but they are terribly obtuse to acknowledge. A deja vu of circa. 2008 with respect to the Federal gov't where pamphleteers, who are now waffling, if so bold as to claiming it as their own entity, and not a national gov't, dangerously opposed it, and its institutions.

 

[World]

Great changes

 

[FBIsomalia]

Noteworthy:
a) [56] No longer Parliamentarian with the public electing MPs, President, and VP.
b) [46](3) No limitation as to the number of political parties, with any party, which garners 5% of the Local Council elections recognised as a political party.
c) [90] Supreme Court justices have no term limitation.
d) [98][113] Permenant Election Commission has neither term limitation, nor preset numbers. 6 shall be appointed by Executive & Legisleture, with each political party having a representation.

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Golaha wakiilada ee Puntland ayaa maanta oo taartiikhdu tahay 25 Luuliyo isku raacey in wax laga beddelo ilaa 7 qodob oo ka mid ah dastuurka Puntland, waxaa fadhiga soo xaadirey 60 Mudane oo kamid ah 66 Golaha Wakiiladu ka kooban yihiin.

1. Qodobka 7aad farqadiisa (1) Dhulka Puntland waxa uu ka kooban yahay gobollada Bari, Nugaal, Sool, Cayn, Karkaar, Mudug, Heylaan iyo Sanaag, waxaa lagu daray Raas Casayr oo horey loo oran jirey Gardafuu kaas oo la magacaabey sanadkii 2013 kadib markii dastuurka la asnixisyey.
2. Qodobka 44aad Farqadiisa (2) waxay u dhigney sidan: Xubnaha Golaha Wakiillada iyo Golayaasha Degmooyinka waa mansabyada dadweynuhu tooska u dooranayaan. Waxaa lagu daray in Madaxweynaha iyo ku-xigeenkiisu ay yihiin mansabyada dadweynuhu soo dooroanayaan.
3. Qodobka 46aad Farqadiisa (3) oo dhigneyd sidan: Saddexda urur siyaasadeed ee ugu codadka badan tartanka kowaad ee Golayaasha Deegaanka ayaa noqonaya saddexda xisbi siyaasadeed ee rasmiga ah. Qodobkan si weyn ayaa loo beddalay, waxaana muuqata in uu qabyo yahay, inkasta oo aan dastuurka wax kumeel-gaar ah lagu dhigin ayaa qodabkan laba fasiraad lee yahay waxaana wax ka beddelkiisi loo dhigey sidan: Ururada siyaasadeed ee doorashada kowaad ee goloyaasha deegaanka ka hela xubno ayaa noqonaya xisbiyada siyaasadeed ee rasmiga ah, waxaa lagu daray qodob afaraad oo oranaya: Doorashooyinka xiga xisbiyadu waxay noqonayaan shantii sanaba mar, waxaana xisbi noqonaya urur siyaasadeedkii hela 5% tirada guud ee goloyaasha deegaanada Puntland.
4. Qodobka 56 aad: Hanaanka Dowladda Puntland ee ahayd Baarlamaani waxaa loo beddalay, In aytahay Dimoqraadi dadweynhu soo dooranayaan Madaxweynaha iyo ku-xigeenkiisa.
5. Qodobka 62aad: Sababaha lagu dhumin karo Xasanaadda xildhibaanimo, waxaa lagu daray qodobkan farqad cusub (d) Marki Xubinta xildhbaan kamid ah Golaha wakiilada laga qaadayo xasaanadda waa in ay oggolaadaan 2/3 tirada guud ee xubnaha golaha wakiilada.
6. Qodobka 64aad Waxa uu ka hadlayaa awoodaha Golaha wakilada in ay ka mid tahay Doorashada Madaxweynaha, farqadda ka hadleysa ee (8) ayaa meesha laga saarey.
7. Qodobka 90aad: Maxkamadda Sare: Wuxuu ka kooban yahay shan farqadood, waxaa laga saarey hal farqad oo ka hadleysa muddo xileedka Maxkamadda sare in ay tahay shan sano, waxaana hadda laga dhigey muddo aan cayineyn waxaa xilka ka qaadi kara Golaha wakiilada oo ah cod haldheeri 1/2+1
8. Qodobka 112 ee ka hadlaaya dhismaha guddiga doorashooyinka, waxaa laga bedalay oo keliya muddada ay jirayaan oo ahayd 6 sano waxaa laga dhigey mid aan xili lahayn, waxaana ay xilka ku waayi karaan si lamid ah Maxkamadda dasuuriga ah qodobka 98aad:

• b. Haddii ay lumiso shuruudihii lagu soo doortay mid ka mid ah.
• t. Geeriyooto ama ay ku dhacdo jirro ay la gudan waydo xilkeeda.
• j. Istiqaalo keento lagana aqbalo.
• x. Ku xad gudubto Shareecda Islaamka, Dastuurka iyo qawaaniinta Dalka.
• Kh. Maxkamadi ku xukunto fal dambiyeed culus.

1. Qodobka 113 ee isla Guddiga doorashada, waxaa meesha laga saarey tiradoodi ahayd 9, waxaana laga dhigey in 6 kamid ah ay soo kala magacaabayaan Madaxweynaha iyo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka, halka Xisbiyada jira oo aan tiradooda la aqoon midkastaa xubin ku soo daraayo.

Intaan waa nuxurka wax ka beddelka ee dastuurka ay ku sameeyeen Golaha wakiilada Puntland.

Horseed Media

Now Puntland shows to world we are ready to move next level. Qoslaya with araanjaan wants old style stay but it cant be, its over.

Ha nolaato puntland.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Now Puntland shows to world we are ready to move next level.

Caution, my good man, and let us not be too overconfident, for Somali political leaders are obtuse, and its politics unintelligent.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Caution, my good man, and let us not be too overconfident, for Somali political leaders are obtuse, and its politics unintelligent.

Inshallah it will happen .

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Somali politician are a rare breed, and almost always disappoint!

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

These are great changes to the constitution. I can tell at a glance that these changes were well thought out and that the brilliant Afyare Elmi's input was sought.

I was hoping they would enshrine proportional representation in the constitution, along with the method of presidential election.

Giving TPEC (PEC) the authority of deciding the method of election is a good idea for the first few elections as kinks are worked out.

@𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈 I would not be so pessimistic. Deni wants to hold free & fair elections since he knows he will win. It in his own interest that this process be as fair as possible so that his second term is not contested.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I think setting the electoral threshold at 5% is way too high. It would be much better if it were set at 1.5% or 1 out of 66 seats in parliament, this is what the Netherlands does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_threshold

This 5% threshold will mean that a clan may not be able to form a party to win a parliamentary seat, even though it may be large enough to win 3 of 66 seats or 4.5% of the vote. An Awrtable party would be large enough to gain 1 seat out of 66, but it would not have 5% of the vote in district elections to qualify as a party.

They messed up on this issue, and it is guaranteed to be a problem.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

These are great changes to the constitution. I can tell at a glance that these changes were well thought out and that the brilliant Afyare Elmi's input was sought.

I was hoping they would enshrine proportional representation in the constitution, along with the method of presidential election.

Giving TPEC (PEC) the authority of deciding the method of election is a good idea for the first few elections as kinks are worked out.

@𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈 I would not be so pessimistic. Deni wants to hold free & fair elections since he knows he will win. It in his own interest that this process be as fair as possible so that his second term is not contested.

I agree, it is a definite improvement, satisfying most of the opposition's concerns, which I find of greater value, with there being noticeable gaps, which as you said, could be sorted out in time.

It boggles the mind as to what they based the 5% threshold upon, bearing in mind the 66 MPs shall change post census, and communities incl. those in new regions (Ra's Casayr), and districts (Saaxo & Tawfiiq), and others with no representation now shall have to be considered.

This reminds of UKIP gaining 3.8m votes in 2015, ending up with a single seat, and over half a million votes in 2017, but could not get a single seat in the Commons. Again, boggles the mind!

A fair system would have a representation mechanisms of, and for all groups, as identification with state systems is a requisite for acceptance, and responding to grievances, presumed or otherwise.

Postscript:
I am most bemused a man with your analytical predilection considers Afyare 'brilliant'.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

This is timely, very good, and relevant, with respect to Article 60[ii]. As the Constitutional Court deliberates: Let census determine as to the number of MPs.

 

[Abdalla]

Puntland Elections Commission should be named ASAP, they’re now mandated to come up with a roadmap to 1M1V. I’m impressed with the current TPEC members, I’d incorporate them to the permanent PEC.

If PL MPs are dutiful, they’ll postpone their upcoming recess and prioritize naming PEC members. We have no time to waste.

 

[DalsanJubiland]

Let me ask you guys this question, what is the point of opening the constitution if no increasing number of MP from 66 to 83 for example.
I thought point of contention was increasing the MPs.
What is the point of opening the Puntaland constituency?
Please explain?
What was the reason they were fighting?

 

[Abdalla]

Let me ask you guys this question, what is the point of opening the constitution if no increasing number of MP from 66 to 83 for example.
I thought point of contention was increasing the MPs.
What is the point of opening the Puntaland constituency?
Please explain?
What was the reason they were fighting?

There’s no need to increase because clans will not choose their MPs. The clans that participate inter elections the most will get the votes.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Let me ask you guys this question, what is the point of opening the constitution if no increasing number of MP from 66 to 83 for example.
I thought point of contention was increasing the MPs.
What is the point of opening the Puntaland constituency?
Please explain?
What was the reason they were fighting?

Opposition's ONLY contentious point was, and remains against term extension. They had not articulated any other points.

On the question of MPs, did you read the dissent ruling by the Constitutional Court Justices today? In a nutshell, Justices deferred discussion back to Article 30[ii] asserting: census shall determine as to the number of MPs, and until census has been carried out, no deliberation could be had.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

No idea as to the reason, but the voting age* question does not seem to have gained traction amongst the youth, and I would have thought the Youth Party would have campaigned on that point.

* Setting voting age at 16 instead of 18 has been previously raised, but seems to have been dropped.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Deni signed constitutional amendments, as passed by the Parliament, into law.

27 July 2023 (Puntlandes) Madaxweynaha Dowladda Puntland Mudane Siciid Cabdullaahi Deni, ayaa soo saaray Sharci Lr. 02 ee 27-ka Luulyo 2023, kuna saabsan Sharciga Wax-ka-badalka 1-aad Dastuurka Dowladda Puntland.

Madaxweynaha Dowladda Puntland

Markuu arkay: Dastuurka Dowladda Puntland Qodobkiisa 80-aad farqadiisa 16-aad iyo Qodobka 139-aad.

Markuu arkay: Ansixinta Golaha Wakiilada Dowladda Puntland ee Summadeedu tahay XGGW/DPL/41/2022, kuna taariikhaysan 26-ka July 2023.

Wuxuu soo saaray
Sharciga soo socda:

Qodobka 1aad
Golaha Wakiiladu waxay ansixiyeen Sharciga Wax-ka-badalka 1-aad Dastuurka Dowadda Puntland.

Qodobka 2aad
Nuqulada asalka ah (Original) waxaa lagu kala kaydinayaa Xafiiska Madaxweynaha, Xafiiska Xoghayaha Guud ee Baarlamaanka iyo Xafiiska Garyaqaanka Guud ee Dowladda

Qodobka 3aad
Dhaqangal Sharcigani wuxuu noqonayaa markuu Madaxweynuhu saxiixo laguna soo saaro faafinta rasmiga ah ee Dowladda Puntland, Wuuna saxiixay Madaxweynuhu, sidoo kale waxaa lagu soo saaray faafinta rasmiga ah.

-DHAMMAAD-

 

[Enlightenednomad]

Deni has already started deliberations to appoint the head of PEC with current finance minister Dhabancad being strongly considered for this position.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

PEC should not be a political appointment, and if Deni politicises it, it shall serve his downfall. Besides, Dhabancad is neither an effective technocrat in policing nor a heavyweight in his political thinking.