PL problem is a constitutional issue and must seek to be differet in the constitution

[The Midlands]

The PL problem is a constitutional problem. PL has tried to be the mother of Federalism the model that the southern states should follow

Fahad Yasiin has invented a theory that calls to spread the federalism from Mogadishu to PL and make the southern states it's competitors so the Federal govt can control the NCC wich will isolate PL

The situation of PL is different from that of the south so they cannot be the same level as the southern states that are run by the SFG. The federalism PL wants cannot happen in Koonfur so no need to ask others to be like her , leave them for the SFG because of the internal conflicts between the tribes there must be an external political reference

Pl shoud work to be different in the constitution such as being responsible for it's internal affairs(she wants this for all FMS wich is impossible) and to have a local constitution that prevents the opposition from resorting to the SFG. This is how Kurdistan Iraq functions

Somalia can be three states confederation: SL, PL and South central Somalia.

I cannot blame the SFG under this constitution that makes all the Same.

 

[roddybentancur]

How do you intend to force SL into a confederation? i genuinely believe the ppl there would die before being a part of Somalia again.

 

[Prince of HS]

How do you intend to force SL into a confederation? i genuinely believe the ppl there would die before being a part of Somalia again.

why are sl so anti somali? i genuinely don't understand. i understand and sympathise with the genocide but somali weey is dilaan weyna heshiiyaan.

 

[roddybentancur]

why are sl so anti somali? i genuinely don't understand. i understand and sympathise with the genocide but somali weey is dilaan weyna heshiiyaan.

I believe the best way you can lure them back is if Somalia becomes some sort of a utopia and eventually sucker them in. I think they hate the mogadishu elites sxb thats why. You gotta understand that it was decade long oppression economically and militarily in certain areas of north before eventually war in 1988.

 

[repo]

Two Puntland ministers are participating in a Twitter space now.

 

[The Midlands]

How do you intend to force SL into a confederation? i genuinely believe the ppl there would die before being a part of Somalia again.

Djibouti on behalf of SL asked for a North-South powersharing they dont want the current federalism they want Mogadishu vs Hargeysa no FMS so so i dont believe their independence shyt therefore im suggesting SL and PL vs the rest. They r functioning adminstrations and ahead of koonfur in development, securiry, judicially every thing.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

why are sl so anti somali? i genuinely don't understand. i understand and sympathise with the genocide but somali weey is dilaan weyna heshiiyaan.

SL elites wanted to rule Somalia but realized they couldn’t so they made their case for an independent state that they could rule. The only way for you to want independence is for you to despise union. This is why the SL elites for decades pushed hatred for Somalia in the south especially the Darood. All the while advocating for Darood to be apart of their state. I promise you if Isaaq get the president on lock and the capital, they wouldn’t for a day want separatism.

 

[Prince of HS]

SL elites wanted to rule Somalia but realized they couldn’t so they made their case for an independent state that they could rule. The only way for you to want independence is for you to despise union. This is why the SL elites for decades pushed hatred for Somalia in the south especially the Darood. All the while advocating for Darood to be apart of their state. I promise you if Isaaq get the president on lock and the capital, they wouldn’t for a day want separatism.

obviously they wouldnt. hargesia also is too far from Mogadishu so they think if they rejoin, they will be irrelevant. most clans if they had the capital would be pro strong central goverment. i have a mj relative who jokingly says if the capital was bosaaso, he would be the biggest unakaleh hardcore centralist

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

obviously they wouldnt. hargesia also is too far from Mogadishu so they think if they rejoin, they will be irrelevant. most clans if they had the capital would be pro strong central goverment. i have a mj relative who jokingly says if the capital was bosaaso, he would be the biggest unakaleh hardcore centralist

I think we should have an executive capital in Mogadishu and a parliamentary capital in Hergeisa that could also at times host the executive. Two co-capitals would be nice. The prime-minister or president in turn must be a reer waqooyi. Somaliland will become a FMS state with it’s capital in Lascaanood or maybe Burco.

 

[roddybentancur]

SL elites wanted to rule Somalia but realized they couldn’t so they made their case for an independent state that they could rule. The only way for you to want independence is for you to despise union. This is why the SL elites for decades pushed hatred for Somalia in the south especially the Darood. All the while advocating for Darood to be apart of their state. I promise you if Isaaq get the president on lock and the capital, they wouldn’t for a day want separatism.

They were offered something similar to that by farmaajo and co previously but they rejected everything. Do not confuse SL elites and average lander back home. Two different specimen of people. You will have to slaughter them once and for all and just take the land back if you want this end. 32 years of this shit will deffo play in to this. FGS let this play out for too long.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

They were offered something similar to that by farmaajo and co previously but they rejected everything. Do not confuse SL elites and average lander back home. Two different specimen of people. You will have to slaughter them once and for all and just take the land back if you want this end. 32 years of this shit will deffo play in to this. FGS let this play out for too long.

I believe we should just leave them alone and develope the south and stabilize.

 

[MenacingGeeljire]

Puntland wants special treatment and status in the constitution but it will never happen. They can call themselves the mother of federalism or whatever they want but they will never get any special treatment in the constitution.

I believe the best way you can lure them back is if Somalia becomes some sort of a utopia and eventually sucker them in. I think they hate the mogadishu elites sxb thats why. You gotta understand that it was decade long oppression economically and militarily in certain areas of north before eventually war in 1988.

Mogadishu and it’s people did nothing to harm isaaq. They only hate Mogadishu and the south all together because we wouldn’t recognize their secession and we nev

 

[Hilmaam]

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why are sl so anti somali? i genuinely don't understand. i understand and sympathise with the genocide but somali weey is dilaan weyna heshiiyaan.

It’s goes back way before civil war, they started rebellion 1 year after founding of country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_revolt_in_Somalia

The Rebirth Of Somaliland (4): The 1961 Aborted Military Coup - Horn Diplomat

By Dr. Hussein M Nur Despite the serious concerns described in the previous part and as articulated in poetic styles, the government did not address them the issues and the Somaliland politicians were unable to rectify the distorted situation. But the widespread dissent and injustices paved...

www.horndiplomat.com

 

[Hilmaam]

why are sl so anti somali? i genuinely don't understand. i understand and sympathise with the genocide but somali weey is dilaan weyna heshiiyaan.

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It’s goes back way before civil war, they started rebellion 1 year after founding of country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_revolt_in_Somalia

The Rebirth Of Somaliland (4): The 1961 Aborted Military Coup - Horn Diplomat

By Dr. Hussein M Nur Despite the serious concerns described in the previous part and as articulated in poetic styles, the government did not address them the issues and the Somaliland politicians were unable to rectify the distorted situation. But the widespread dissent and injustices paved...

www.horndiplomat.com

If Isaaq feels sidelined by darood and hawiyye imagine what RX sleeping giant feels. luckily Maayland isn’t being pushed hard like somaliland

 

[DR OSMAN]

The PL problem is a constitutional problem. PL has tried to be the mother of Federalism the model that the southern states should follow

Fahad Yasiin has invented a theory that calls to spread the federalism from Mogadishu to PL and make the southern states it's competitors so the Federal govt can control the NCC wich will isolate PL

The situation of PL is different from that of the south so they cannot be the same level as the southern states that are run by the SFG. The federalism PL wants cannot happen in Koonfur so no need to ask others to be like her , leave them for the SFG because of the internal conflicts between the tribes there must be an external political reference

Pl shoud work to be different in the constitution such as being responsible for it's internal affairs(she wants this for all FMS wich is impossible) and to have a local constitution that prevents the opposition from resorting to the SFG. This is how Kurdistan Iraq functions

Somalia can be three states confederation: SL, PL and South central Somalia.

I cannot blame the SFG under this constitution that makes all the Same.

We should adopt a china model 'multiple systems yet one state' but it's paramount to us that all regions decide for themselves from a bottom-up structure what their relationship with the SFG IS. Not top down from hamar or god forbid at the point of a gun in the north. We want each region including SL to follow how PL was formed, thru bottom up and peaceful assembly.

We will not accept a SFG president who is only there for 5 years to decide the future of south-central somalia, which is our biggest beef with SFG, we know it's unstable and unpredictable and switches kastumo every 5 years, their is no way PL or any region can put it's region in the hand of such dyanmics.