Only in somalia. Government killing its own troops

[Pastoralist]

Ever thought why AS have a suspiciously high success rate against WELL TRAINED armed forces who graduated from UNIVERSITIES prior to joining the army—Who were also given state of the art weaponry? But are submissive against sandal wearing clan militia in other parts of konfur?

the inconsistency here is that AS members are more competent in certain regions more than others. Or rather. More competent against certain forces more than others. AS is on steroids when facing SNA but are a malnourished abdi when against clan militia. This has more to do with the militia having less AS horgals in their midst while SNA do.

HSM is not AS himself. But there is no doubt some closed dialogue between the two. When some users say he is better at fighting AS it illicit’s a chuckle from me. He has employed buffers that work alongside the terrorists like Mahad salad.
Under HSM…



•there have been multiple attempts on Odawa Rage’s life where he was in an otherwise undisclosed location
•Attacks killing scores of soldiers
•killing of top sarkaal like Farhan karole who was a pain in the ass for AS
•Killing of top Danab commander who was also a thorn to AS
•bases overrun in Jubbas
•attacks taking caches of weapons. Intel of these items shouldn’t be known to AS.

and the most telling of all….

•disarmament of certain armed forces. Arming of AS. (AS with government weapons that were meant for the troops)


sumary: AS are not qabiliste. But HSM is. They use this trait of his to destroy their biggest threat which they share with HSM. A UNIFIED SOMALI NATIONAL ARMY. They have particularly targeted armed forces that fight for somalia and not for clan. An armed forces would be the end of HSM and AS so they’ve opted to work together to some degree in the form of horgal. Again HSM is not AS, he just fears them enough to give them some concessions.

Point of this thread: if you support this government. You in someway directly or indirectly support AS.


thank you for reading

 

[geeljre49]

When people say HSM is corrupt I listen to their reasons and actually take it in. When someone says or insinuates HSM not being serious about the war against Shabaab, I laugh my ass off and most likely they dislike HSM for tribal reasons.

 

[Pastoralist]

When people say HSM is corrupt I listen to their reasons and actually take it in. When someone says anything or insinuates HSM not being serious about the war against Shabaab, I laugh my ass off and most likely they dislike HSM for tribal reasons

It is actions vs words. Adan madoobe speaker of parliament is not a qabiliste yet the thought has crossed his mind.

not one mention of his clan in this thread. Common defence mechanism of HSM supporters. Roll up in a ball like an armadillo and cry of qabiliste tendencies while your leader displays such.

if you believe sandal wearing terrorists who train by doing backflips are a match for well trained armed forces Then pigs must fly in your head aswell

 

[geeljre49]

It is actions vs words.

not one mention of his clan in this thread. Common defence mechanism of HSM supporters. Roll up in a ball like an armadillo and cry of qabiliste tendencies while your leader displays such

sad.

Of course I support garguurte. I thought he was ass the first term so you can shove tribalism up your ass. The guy recaptured 1/3 of Shabaab territory in a year.

My village was one of those liberated in phase 1. I had close friends and family part of the goverment return to their deegans after 16 years of exile. Today they are spending time with loved ones in Adan Yabaal and ceeldheer as we speak. I’m I meant to oppose the man that freed me from terrorists I’m confused?

 

[Dima&Damo]

Hsm is weird and who gave him the name sheikh

 

[Pastoralist]

Of course I support garguurte. I thought he was ass the first term so you can shove tribalism up your ass. My village was one of those liberated in phase 1. I had close friends and family part of the goverment return to their deegans after 16 years of exile. Today they are spending time with loved one in Adan Yabaal and ceeldheer as we speak. I’m I meant to oppose the man that freed me from terrorists I’m confused?

Your freedom is well expressed. He freed you. But don’t other Somalis deserve the same freedom? AS is allowed to bolster in other regions. Your family freed themselves. But the role of freeing the country comes with the SNA which has been rendered into a shell of what once was. It’s diversity of clan was its biggest strength and now it’s being shirkooled by jajus.

Him freeing your deegan doesn’t serve as black glasses that keep his wrongdoings out of view. It’s your choice.

 

[geeljre49]

Your freedom is well expressed. He freed you. But don’t other Somalis deserve the same freedom? AS is allowed to bolster in other regions. Your family freed themselves. But the role of freeing the country comes with the SNA which has been rendered into a shell of what once was. It’s diversity of clan was its biggest strength and now it’s being shirkooled by jajus.

Him freeing your deegan doesn’t serve as black glasses that keep his wrongdoings out of view. It’s your choice.

Charity starts at home. HSM should free his own people first before other Somalis. I wouldn’t say that is clannism. Straight from coming back from Italy he is going to set camp in Dhusamareb to oversee the liberation of Ceelbuur and Galhereeri. After that is when KGS and JL will begin. If this does not happen due to any shortcomings from Hassan’s side. He has failed.

 

[Pastoralist]

I remember back in 2016 elections, a man who is originally from Puntland said HSM is a failure because how can a man that was incapable of freeing his hometowns of Ceeldheer and Galcad from Shabaab in the 4 years he was in power lead other Somalis.

he was right. Charity starts at home. Straight away when HSM comes back from Italy he is going to set camp in Dhusamareb to oversee the liberation of Ceelbuur and Galhereeri. After that is when KGS and JL will begin. If this does not happen due to any shortcomings from Hassan’s side. He has failed. I don’t support politicans solely due to sharing same clan. If I did, I’d be Guudlawe’s top fan

His deegan comes first there’s no blame in that. He liberated the gobol with macawisley who were effective. We’ll see how far this attitude of eradication goes the further on with these phases he goes. He has AS within his shacab. How can he fight them in earnest while they’re in such close proximity. A purge of those close to him would give him a confidence boost of going all in but that’s unlikely as they’re responsible for keeping him in power by dissuading any opposition.

 

[Gerigo'an]

Blaming the president without any concrete evidence? This is a new level of stupid!

 

[Pastoralist]

Blaming the president without any concrete evidence? This is a new level of stupid!

welcome baqti mayd ah.

You asked for my reason.

okay what makes HSM trash?

these are all events that have happened within the past year or so.

 

[Removed]

AS has superior tactics. SNA isnt trained for counter-insurgency thats why they are less capable then Clan militias who automatically operate like insurgents or Liyu who is founded based on the principles of fighting insurgents in SR.

 

[GaradShabeel]

AS has superior tactics. SNA isnt trained for counter-insurgency thats why they are less capable then Clan militias who automatically operate like insurgents or Liyu who is founded based on the principles of fighting insurgents in SR.

Then haven't SNA been trained to operate like insurgents? One would assume that, since AS have been the no.1 enemy of the Somalia for the past decade+, all types of training would be to accustom them to the given circumstances and thus defeat AS.

Also, the number of Liyuu exceeds the total number of all Somali federal forces by at least the double. Liyuu was established around the time when AS started fighting against Somalia. With that said, there're simply other factors playing important roles that's emboldening/strengthening AS.

 

[Gerigo'an]

welcome baqti mayd ah.

You asked for my reason.


these are all events that have happened within the past year or so.

I remember when idiots used to blame farmaajo when hawiye soldiers were blown up. Somali people are too quick to jump the gun and lay blame. I don't think a sitting president in Somalia would orchestrate an attack on the national soldiers. Don't be doqon waryaa.
If you have evidence, bring it up. fyi, some doqon old man coming on facebook live and blaming the president isn't proof.

 

[Ismacilssc]

When people say HSM is corrupt I listen to their reasons and actually take it in. When someone says or insinuates HSM not being serious about the war against Shabaab, I laugh my ass off and most likely they dislike HSM for tribal reasons.

Wtf u smoking on alshabab might take over somalia under this man leadership and you know it to

 

[Faanoole]

So they're blaming a terrorist attack on qabiil politics, some 68iq shit

 

[Pastoralist]

AS has superior tactics. SNA isnt trained for counter-insurgency thats why they are less capable then Clan militias who automatically operate like insurgents or Liyu who is founded based on the principles of fighting insurgents in SR.

The grassroots of thinking like AS may give them a higher advantage I’ll admit
. Compared to the the overly anti-terrorism approach we see the SNA being trained for. These men must be incorporated into the SNA. With proper training they’d be even more effective.

I remember when idiots used to blame farmaajo when hawiye soldiers were blown up. Somali people are too quick to jump the gun and lay blame. I don't think a sitting president in Somalia would orchestrate an attack on the national soldiers. Don't be doqon waryaa.
If you have evidence, bring it up. fyi, some doqon old man coming on facebook live and blaming the president isn't proof.

Yes I remember that aswell. Farmaajo had some bs said about him, and some of this about HSM is BS aswell. But The “old man” is speaker of parliament bro. You can’t just toss his word aside like he hasn’t been complicit in the government all this time.


He’s not blaming the president, I am . he’s saying that many of these explosions look like a case of bad leadership. The men being recruited may have made it easier for the explosions by AS to happen. Also that there’s some respectable men in the army, but there could also be double agents for AS.

He could be blaming defence minister.

 

[3LetterzMM]

Obviously some fishy shit is going on lol reer baadiyo in macawiis with AKs have al shabaab running for their life how come soldiers with better equipment aren’t wiping these niggas out?

 

[repo]

Shabaab infiltrated the Mogadishu government a long time ago. We have been talking about that for years. This is a consequence of the mad policies of Farmaajo.

 

[Pastoralist]

Shabaab infiltrated the Mogadishu government a long time ago. We have been talking about that for years. This is a consequence of the mad policies of Farmaajo.

I’ve heard about rehabilitated members joining the government and being used to control or predict AS movement. Even though they still ended up killing civilian anyways.

But this is a first. AS being used to kill the country’s very own soldiers.

 

[Step a side]

I’ve heard about rehabilitated members joining the government and being used to control or predict AS movement. Even though they still ended up killing civilian anyways.

But this is a first. AS being used to kill the country’s very own soldiers.

Alshabaab was planted as the shadow government since 2007 when the Ethiopians entered with the backing of the US. The Habesha scum would wait outside the masjids and kill off most of the ICU scholars who held the country together through Islamic laws. No one could steal, rape , fight etc. when the ICU was running the country. My grandfather and his cousins were the ones running Xariyaale court. Only the most knowledgeable were entrusted with this task. Sh shareefs father and many other elders were part of this movement. Unfortunately the west didn’t want this and with the help of Media they demonised the ICU. Ethiopian slaves would enter the country and shabaab was born soon after.