Old usage of the "Huwan" term

[Arkan]

It was used to refer to Samaroon, Ciise, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli, and Gabooye. Now it's a special term used to refer to Dhulbahante alone

 

[DR OSMAN]

It was used to refer to Samaroon, Ciise, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli, and Gabooye. Now it's a special term used to refer to Dhulbahante alone

He has a similar culture and outlook like reer nugaaleed old timers who influence my political style. Why? Don't oppose a govt like siyad and replace it with something worse. Never promote violent opposition on a sitting govt, it was elected, opposition wasnt. All opposition must only promote constructive criticism and provide 'solutions' not just 'condemn' a govt and have no alternative except 'test me' kkkkk.

The problem with SL is power is run by SNM, not even civilians. Their politics is 30 years old and not keeping up. Plus they were found thru violence, it can only end in violence becuz they made it acceptable to use violence to reach poweer, ma garatay?

 

[SPMLegend]

Huwan,Dhabacayuun,Iidoor, Huuno are all terminologies constructed by Galbeed Ogadens. Looks like our Northern Neighbors are using them to good use

 

[Arkan]

Huwan,Dhabacayuun,Iidoor, Huuno are all terminologies constructed by Galbeed Ogadens. Looks like our Northern Neighbors are using them to good use

How did you construct "Hunno" and I don't see it as an insult like they rest are

 

[DR OSMAN]

How did you construct "Hunno" and I don't see it as an insult like they rest are

Arkan post 91 the nation fell into clan conflict, all political objectives ceased(no state). PL regrets dearly the rebel group days even tho way 'is gabteen' after abdillahi yusuf was arrested by menguistu in 1985. If ethio is jailing u, u must be a 'wadani', can't say the same 4 snm who continued not knowing if a political settlement is not reached first among rebel groups, the outcome from post military option, it can only create a 'stateless vacuum' and just in-fighting which is what menguistu wanted and GOT.

We dearly regret teaching Somalis u can use violence to achieve ur goals, that legacy is still there today with all opposition resorting to violence. But the clan conflict post 91 with no political goal in the south isn't our legacy at all. During that time we were civilians no armed group.

 

[SPMLegend]

How did you construct "Hunno" and I don't see it as an insult like they rest are

I don’t know the history of it but some people told me that it does not originally relate to love. It was bastardized to make it seem like that through Dhaanto. I’m still looking for the original meaning. The Dhulbahantes used Huuno against Iidoors as an insult because the Sacad Muuse Ethiopian tribe of Muse Bihi also uses it.

 

[Arkan]

Arkan post 91 the nation fell into clan conflict, all political objectives ceased(no state). PL regrets dearly the rebel group days even tho way 'is gabteen' after abdillahi yusuf was arrested by menguistu in 1985. If ethio is jailing u, u must be a 'wadani', can't say the same 4 snm who continued not knowing if a political settlement is not reached first among rebel groups, the outcome from post military option, it can only create a 'stateless vacuum' and just in-fighting which is what menguistu wanted and GOT.

We dearly regret teaching Somalis u can use violence to achieve ur goals, that legacy is still there today with all opposition resorting to violence. But the clan conflict post 91 with no political goal in the south isn't our legacy at all. During that time we were civilians no armed group.

The past is the past, bro. It can't be changed.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Isaaq was wrong to use 'coup' method in 1964, the govt was legitimately elected and a coup would over-ride the ppl will, the wrong tactic. But the coup option in 78 was valid tho to use against Siyad Barre, as he came thru blood-less coup. Every govt the way it was founded is the only legal way to replace or depose. We as SSDF should never of turned it into violent rebel opposition and continued thru the coup attempts only.

 

[Arkan]

I don’t know the history of it but some people told me that it does not originally relate to love. It was bastardized to make it seem like that through Dhaanto. I’m still looking for the original meaning. The Dhulbahantes used Huuno against Iidoors as an insult because the Sacad Muuse Ethiopian tribe of Muse Bihi also uses it.

Yaab. I thought it was just an affectionate term.

Even Ciise and Samaroon use the term from Djibouti, Somalia, and Galbeed. Don't Galbeed OGs use Hunno too, though? They should've coined a unique term for Sacad Muuse.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Arkan how do u deal with these Isaaq in a mass formation brain disease? any tips? U guys seem genuinely educated lot, how do u even reason with them? Somalia has UN/AU membership legal rights, if anyone even dared recognize them, their international court that Somalia can use for violation of UN established rule of law.

The SFG even did this with Kenya over 'JL' mari-time territory at the HAGUE. Why do they bother with breaking international law and seeking recognition from any UN/AU member state? don't they 'question' themselves at all or is the mass psychosis untreatable?

But what's funny is when the they say the UK gave them british somaliland and the UK thru the international community as the UN and by itself has told them many times publically there is no british somaliland that they recognize or will ever recognize.

Then their leaders continously repeat 'british u gave us this land'. Why aren't u guys intervening and telling them the truth, cause they won't listen to us as Darods even if we told them the 'sun is rising' they will say it doesn't exist.

 

[Arkan]

@Arkan how do u deal with these Isaaq in a mass formation brain disease? any tips? U guys seem genuinely educated lot, how do u even reason with them? Somalia has UN/AU membership legal rights, if anyone even dared recognize them, their international court that Somalia can use for violation of UN established rule of law.

The SFG even did this with Kenya over 'JL' mari-time territory at the HAGUE. Why do they bother with breaking international law and seeking recognition from any UN/AU member state? don't they 'question' themselves at all or is the mass psychosis untreatable?

But what's funny is when the they say the UK gave them british somaliland and the UK thru the international community as the UN and by itself has told them many times publically there is no british somaliland that they recognize or will ever recognize.

Then their leaders continously repeat 'british u gave us this land'. Why aren't u guys intervening and telling them the truth, cause they won't listen to us as Darods even if we told them the 'sun is rising' they will say it doesn't exist.

You're giving too much credit to us but we try out best to ignore it. You can't reason with people who are adamant on living off the historical remnants of the British. We don't even acknowledge this British border nonsense to sustain a nonexistent sovereignty. You wouldn't find a single sane one of us making that argument. We recognise tribal borders.

 

[DR OSMAN]

You're giving too much credit to us but we try out best to ignore it. You can't reason with people who are adamant on living off the historical remnants of the British. We don't even acknowledge this British border nonsense to sustain a nonexistent sovereignty. You wouldn't find a single sane one of us making that argument. We recognise tribal borders.

Dandansi miyaa what the Isaaq is doing? After state collapse and clan warfare, CLAN is the Somali characteristic that must be acknowledged and systems crafted to accomodate it. Federalism is seen as the best model that is inclusive for all Clans, it address the mistrust due to clan warfare, plus addresses past centralized problems from civilian and kacaan govt era.

Secession benefits only 1 clan, Colonial borders are irrelevant becuz it's not what caused our civil war nor is an identity anyone holds. Plus it show lack of political capital from Isaaq repeating UK gave u british somaliland when the british govt laughs back and says no such thing ever happened and that land is part and parcel of Somalia.

Forget the international community dismissal of Somaliland, even ti aad ku doodaysee 'britain' ayaa idin ku yiri 'war naga farista you mad ppl they don't acknowledge your nonsense narrative'. Waba ceeb hadad damiir siyasadeed lee dahay, it shows how crazy the political incompetence is.

War isaaq dhulkina imansada, why you care for other ppl land? why r u playing zero-sum when it never worked in Somalia, no clan can defeat another for 30 years, yet ur playing the same game. Wada xaajood oo caqli ku dhisan iyo win-win mooye wax kale somalia kama shaqaynayso. No offence but I would never love someone else land, it's not my 'awooweyaal' ma garatay. It's simply not my 'story' is how I see other ppl land.