OLA vs ENDF in westernOromiya region

[Gadhwayne]

OLA claim:

The Oromo Liberation Army has launched cleanup operations against the remnants of Ethiopian military presence in western Oromia. The operations are ongoing and have thus far resulted in a large number of enemy combatants being killed and injured. More details will follow.

This claim suggests ENDF are retreating/hiding

OLA Update #2 / 3rd July, 2021

WESTERN ZONE July 1st, 2021 Dabo district, Bunno Bedele – Units of the Ethiopian military attempting to enter the Adda Bole area were stopped by the Cibra Shanan Gibe brigade resulting in 11 …

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@Abba Sadacha @Sheikh Kulkuli @xabashi

The EthiopianPeaceObservatory reports battles in Tigray. The westernOromia violence is reported as violence against civilians. Who is attacking civilians OLA or ENDF

What the real situation and is it fair to characterize the Oromiya conflicts as clan wars proAbiy Qoti clans vs anti Abiy clan and Guji Qoti vs Gedeo tribe/ethnicity, proSomaali IrirSamaale clans vs formerly Somaali speaking clans that now support AfranQallo identity, Axmaara settlers/minorities vs Qoti hosts/majority

 

[Al Muslim]

Could you post the full image? The key information is cropped out.

 

[digaagjecel]

OLA claim:



This claim suggests ENDF are retreating/hiding

OLA Update #2 / 3rd July, 2021

WESTERN ZONE July 1st, 2021 Dabo district, Bunno Bedele – Units of the Ethiopian military attempting to enter the Adda Bole area were stopped by the Cibra Shanan Gibe brigade resulting in 11 …

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@Abba Sadacha @Sheikh Kulkuli @xabashi

The EthiopianPeaceObservatory reports battles in Tigray. The westernOromia violence is reported as violence against civilians. Who is attacking civilians OLA or ENDF

View attachment 191487

What the real situation and is it fair to characterize the Oromiya conflicts as clan wars proAbiy Qoti clans vs anti Abiy clan and Guji Qoti vs Gedeo tribe/ethnicity, proSomaali IrirSamaale clans vs formerly Somaali speaking clans that now support AfranQallo identity, Axmaara settlers/minorities vs Qoti hosts/majority

Could you further explain this?

 

[Abba Sadacha]

OLA claim:



This claim suggests ENDF are retreating/hiding

OLA Update #2 / 3rd July, 2021

WESTERN ZONE July 1st, 2021 Dabo district, Bunno Bedele – Units of the Ethiopian military attempting to enter the Adda Bole area were stopped by the Cibra Shanan Gibe brigade resulting in 11 …

olacommunique.wordpress.com

@Abba Sadacha @Sheikh Kulkuli @xabashi

The EthiopianPeaceObservatory reports battles in Tigray. The westernOromia violence is reported as violence against civilians. Who is attacking civilians OLA or ENDF

View attachment 191487

What the real situation and is it fair to characterize the Oromiya conflicts as clan wars proAbiy Qoti clans vs anti Abiy clan and Guji Qoti vs Gedeo tribe/ethnicity, proSomaali IrirSamaale clans vs formerly Somaali speaking clans that now support AfranQallo identity, Axmaara settlers/minorities vs Qoti hosts/majority

No, the violence isn't clan based at all. Abiy's support base in Oromia, for the most part, is small, and this is easily seen by the way abiy wasn't confident in fairly competing with jawar/ofc/olc in free and fair elections.
Oromo do not have clan issues-the clan that abiy belongs to, lives in the same areas where the OLA is most active-western oromia/wallaga, and jimma/parts of southern oromia/around the capital city as well. and in smaller numbers in gumuz.
OLA had to build from the ground up after coming back from eritrea-imagine their situation: no arms, no bases, etc, unlike tigrayans who still had their veteran guerrilla leaders around to lead them, plenty of arms, a 250,000 strong security force, etc. but no doubt, it's growing, eventually, the OLA will force abiy to give up, this is why he had to send eritrean troops to fight for him there.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

The onlybtime OLA will defeat Abye is when they form a coalition with TDF and fighti side by side.

Oromos are numerous in number but they lack quality.
They are only good at mob justice and lynching and nothing else.

The only good thing Abye did is to kill as many qeero as he did and imprisoned their leaders.
People like the animal.Jawaar and Lema .magarsa should rot in prison.

@Gadhwayne

 

[Gadhwayne]

As seen in ths conflict map you there are alot of orange/battle dots in Tigray kilil. Now when you look at westernOromia you see blue dots suggesting civilian violence/riots, not clashes between OLA and ENDF

No, the violence isn't clan based at all. Abiy's support base in Oromia, for the most part, is small, and this is easily seen by the way abiy wasn't confident in fairly competing with jawar/ofc/olc in free and fair elections.
Oromo do not have clan issues-the clan that abiy belongs to, lives in the same areas where the OLA is most active-western oromia/wallaga, and jimma/parts of southern oromia/around the capital city as well. and in smaller numbers in gumuz.
OLA had to build from the ground up after coming back from eritrea-imagine their situation: no arms, no bases, etc, unlike tigrayans who still had their veteran guerrilla leaders around to lead them, plenty of arms, a 250,000 strong security force, etc. but no doubt, it's growing, eventually, the OLA will force abiy to give up, this is why he had to send eritrean troops to fight for him there.

look at the key that @Al Muslim was asking for. OLA activity area should appears to be missing dots representing classhes between OLA and ENDF/EDF. Thats why Im wondering are westernOromia violence really just riots? I also think the Guji zone activity is mostly tribal violence between Gaedeo ethnicity and Guji clan of Oromo. Knowing that Caruusa are the most antiAbyssinian clan among Oromo, Im also surprised there are no orange dots representing clashes between ENDF and Oromo nationalists.

I expect @xabashi to say its because Caruusa are proAbiy and @Sheikh Kulkuli feels that Oromo are simply docile. Im just wondering if Oromia is plagued by inconspicuous tribalism that often gets reported as Oromo ideological divisions between assimilationists vs federalists vs secessionist Oromo

Could you post the full image? The key information is cropped out.

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Orange dots = battles
Blue dots say civilian violence but its not clear if that means riots or security forces massacring civilians. So, Oromia is full of docile tribes who rarely retaliate after massacres by Abiy. Or, Oromiya is very divided along tribal/ideological lines and rival Oromo civilian factions/clans are killing each other on behalf of Abiy/OLF

Could you further explain this?

First, I started with OLA quote. They appear to claim that OLA is chasing the remnants of ENDF. If true I then I thought the westernOromia map should show lots of orange dots representing battles betweeen OLA and ENDF. There are very few orange dots in westernOromia instead there are more blue dots. Blue dots indicate violence against civilians. So now Im wondering who is committing violence against civilians? Could it be ENDF massacring Oromo or could it be rival Oromo tribes attacking each other