Of all gods,which god? Allah is the one and only God.

[Dhabaal]

OF ALL THE OTHER GODS OUT THERE, WHAT MAKES YOURS SO SPECIAL? WHAT MAKES YOURS THE RIGHT GOD? DOESN'T EVERY RELIGION THINK THEIR GOD IS THE RIGHT GOD?

BRIEF RESPONSE TO THE ATHEIST CLAIM:
This is a very often asked question by Atheists, Agnostics and Deists. How do we know that our God is the right God? Why not Zeus?

Firstly we have to define God. God is the creator of the universe. In order for something to create a universe it must:


1.) Exist outside of creation (space and time)
-If God exists in creation, then he cannot be the creator of the universe. God has to be separate from his creation.
2.) Be Immaterial
-If God created matter, then he has to be immaterial, he cannot be matter.


Let us take Zeus, for example-the god of lightning. Already we see that Zeus did not create the universe, so that should be enough to say he is not God. But Zeus is the god of lightning. We know that lightning is caused by a merge of high and low pressure. And that is caused by Earths weather patterns and that is caused by the sun and Earth's gravitational field and they are caused by space dust forming them and we can trace the causes all the way until we find that initial cause of the universe. So Zeus had a creator, that means he is not the creator of the universe. If Zeus had a creator and he is only limited to lightning and he has man-like features, then Zeus 1.) Exists inside of creation and 2.) Is material. So Zeus is not God.

Let us take another example. Ganesha (the picture above). It is a God that resembles an elephant (material) and exists within creation. Therefore it is not God.

The only God we can consider as being God is an immaterial God that exists outside of space and time. The God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

 

[Dhabaal]

Where are all the ignorant Atheists . Who ask people which God?, @VixR come out!!


For something to be God, by definition it must be immaterial and exist outside of space and time .
Therefore there can only be One God and that is Allah.

 

[Adheer Warsame]

Where are all the ignorant Atheists . Who ask people which God?, @VixR come out!!


For something to be God, by definition it must be immaterial and exist outside of space and time .
Therefore there can only be One God and that is Allah.

Quran 18:86
Look it up
:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[McLovin]

-If God exists in creation, then he cannot be the creator of the universe. God has to be separate from his creation.
2.) Be Immaterial
-If God created matter, then he has to be immaterial, he cannot be matter.

Oh really? A diety must fill these set of requirements before being considered a god?


I hereby proclaim the divinity of my God, Flying Spaghetti Monster. He exists outside the fabric of spacetime. He is distinct from his creation but is often represented as a bowl of pasta by some heathens! Oh and he's also immaterial. He does not matter.

How do I know all this?

He told me as I was meditating in my man cave

 

[Adheer Warsame]

Oh really? A diety must fill these set of requirements before being considered a god?


I hereby proclaim the divinity of my God, Flying Spaghetti Monster. He exists outside the fabric of spacetime. He is distinct from his creation but is often represented as a bowl of pasta by some heathens! Oh and he's also immaterial. He does not matter.

How do I know all this?

He told me as I was meditating in my man cave

Eat! Eat the holy pasta

 

[ebyaaney]

“Until, when he reached the setting of the sun…”: The translation of this part of the verse does not say that Zul-Qarnain reached the place where the sun sets LITERALLY, rather it means here that Zul-Qarnain was facing the direction in which the sun is setting. The “setting of the sun,” is an Arabic idiom meaning ‘the western-most point’ of his expedition. However, in general, idioms should not be literally translated.

“…he found it set in a spring of murky water”: The Qur’an is obviously describing what Dhul-Qarnain saw. What Dhul-Qarnain saw was the image of the sun setting in a dark body of water. Since the Qur’an is clearly describing this from Dhul-Qarnain’s direct point of view (the Qur’an is quite explicit here in doing that), there is in fact no problem with the description of what Dhul-Qarnain saw. Of course the Critic is right when he says that “the sun does not set in a spring of murky water”, but try standing at a beach during the time when the sun is about to set and the Critic would be able to see the sun “entering” the sea far in the horizon. This therefore gives us the conclusion that Dhul-Qarnain was somewhere west and by a large body of water, possibly the sea.

Therefore, it is clear the verse says that Dhul-Qarnain went west and saw the sun setting over the horizon so that it looked to him as though it was setting into the sea, which is murky-looking. Probably the critic have never stood by on the beach and observe the sun set.


https://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/quranic-commentary-on-sura-al-kahf-1886/

 

[McLovin]

@Dhabaal stop embarrassing your religion when you make these threads. You will always come out lackin



Face it the only time muslims can get the upper hand debating atheists is when they threaten to kill them

My advice would be to pray your five a day and keep it pushing

 

[Dhabaal]

Oh really? A diety must fill these set of requirements before being considered a god?

For a God , to exist he must be immaterial and outside space and time. Because God is defined as the creator of the universe.

It's not that complex to understand. It is basic Metaphysics and Cosmology.

I hereby proclaim the divinity of my God, Flying Spaghetti Monster. He exists outside the fabric of spacetime. He is distinct from his creation but is often represented as a bowl of pasta by some heathens! Oh and he's also immaterial. He does not matter.

''Spaghetti'' is food ' that exist in the material world in creation. If something exist in creation it cannot be the creator of the universe, therefore it does not exist nor is it God.

I know logic is not your strong suit but you should try it once in a while.

 

[Dhabaal]

“Until, when he reached the setting of the sun…”: The translation of this part of the verse does not say that Zul-Qarnain reached the place where the sun sets LITERALLY, rather it means here that Zul-Qarnain was facing the direction in which the sun is setting. The “setting of the sun,” is an Arabic idiom meaning ‘the western-most point’ of his expedition. However, in general, idioms should not be literally translated.

“…he found it set in a spring of murky water”: The Qur’an is obviously describing what Dhul-Qarnain saw. What Dhul-Qarnain saw was the image of the sun setting in a dark body of water. Since the Qur’an is clearly describing this from Dhul-Qarnain’s direct point of view (the Qur’an is quite explicit here in doing that), there is in fact no problem with the description of what Dhul-Qarnain saw. Of course the Critic is right when he says that “the sun does not set in a spring of murky water”, but try standing at a beach during the time when the sun is about to set and the Critic would be able to see the sun “entering” the sea far in the horizon. This therefore gives us the conclusion that Dhul-Qarnain was somewhere west and by a large body of water, possibly the sea.

Therefore, it is clear the verse says that Dhul-Qarnain went west and saw the sun setting over the horizon so that it looked to him as though it was setting into the sea, which is murky-looking. Probably the critic have never stood by on the beach and observe the sun set.


https://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/quranic-commentary-on-sura-al-kahf-1886/

Walaal you shouldn't waste time explaining stuff to him. He is a troll, I would ignore engaging with trolls and people who rely on petty insults and misrepresentation of the Quranic verses.

It shows weakness and ignorance on their part that they cannot stick to the topic while giving informed opinions or arguments ,instead of relying on dishonesty and personal attacks.

"Say what you wish in abuse of me, for my silence towards the idiot is indeed an answer. I am not at a loss for a response but rather, It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

Imam Shafi’i (Allah preserve him)

 

[McLovin]

Spaghetti'' is food ' that exist in the material world in creation. If something exist in creation it cannot be the creator of the universe, therefore it does not exist nor is it God.

But you don't understand. Spaghetti has taken a new meaning now. One striped from its old one. Kind of like the name Allah took a new meaning from its old pagan roots

"there is also evidence that Allah and Hubal were two distinct deities.[8]According to that hypothesis, the Kaaba was first consecrated to a supreme deity named Allah and then hosted the pantheon of Quraysh after their conquest of Mecca, about a century before the time of Muhammad."

It's not that complex to understand. It is basic Metaphysics and Cosmology.

Boy are you are one cringey ass kid

 

[Dhabaal]

@Dhabaal stop embarrassing your religion when you make these threads. You will always come out lackin

Don't act like you know anything about the religion of Islam.

Your fellow atheistic comrades embarrassed themselves enough in the other thread.

Face it the only time muslims can get the upper hand debating atheists is when they threaten to kill them

So Atheists are pussy ass cowards. Good to know.

My advice would be to pray your five a day and keep it pushing

You should practice what you preach.

And Perhaps Allah will forgive you. Insh-Allah.

 

[McLovin]

Don't act like you know anything about the religion of Islam.



So Atheists are pussy ass cowards. Good to know.



You should practice what you preach.

And Perhaps Allah will forgive

You should stop making cringey ass posts with weak arguments. I'm starting to think you have a weird fetish for being mollywhopped

 

[Dhabaal]

But you don't understand. Spaghetti has taken a new meaning now. One striped from its old one. Kind of like the name Allah took a new meaning from its old pagan roots

If you Strip spaghetti from its material attributes , it stops being Spaghetti.

Allah is not a pagan term. Allah is simply the word for God, Just like me calling it Ebbe in Somali. Just different terms used for the same being.

Hamblin & Peterson: 'Allah' is not pagan term — it means 'God'
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765619974/Allah-is-not-pagan-term-2-it-means-God.html?pg=all

But, in fact, "Allah" is simply the Arabic equivalent of the English word "God." It's a contraction of two words, the Arabic definite article "al" (essentially equal to English "the") and the Arabic noun "ilah," meaning "god" with a lower case "g." Arabic script has no capital letters, so attaching the definite article to "ilah" serves the purpose. While "ilah" can refer to a pagan "god," "Allah" cannot. Instead, it designates "The God"— the one true God of Abrahamic monotheism

Again logic must not be your strong suit.

Boy are you are one cringey ass kid

Ok you are entitled to your opinion
Can you tell me what you know about metaphysics and cosmology ? or is it too broad for your own limited knowledge

 

[McLovin]

If you Strip spaghetti from its material attributes , it stops being Spaghetti.

Allah is not a pagan term. Allah is simply the word for God, Just like me calling it Ebbe in Somali. Just different terms used for the same being.

Hamblin & Peterson: 'Allah' is not pagan term — it means 'God'
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765619974/Allah-is-not-pagan-term-2-it-means-God.html?pg=all



Again logic must not be your strong suit.


Ok you are entitled to your opinion
Can you tell me what you know about metaphysics and cosmology ? or is it too broad for your own limited knowledge

Idiot completely missed the point I was trying to make. Just because pagan Arabs used the name Allah to refer to their diety, doesn't mean islam is worshipping a pagan god. And the same way just because you knew spaghetti as a tasty dish you have for lunch, doesn't mean my god is literally a spaghetti. But to decrease confusion to your frail mind. Let's call him Shmallah and me a follower of Shmallah. Why aren't you praying to my Shmallah even tho he fills all the criteria of a god? Namely existing out of space and time and being immaterial


Also did I mention he told me himself in my man cave? What more evidence do you need

Ok you are entitled to your opinion
Can you tell me what you know about metaphysics and cosmology ? or is it too broad for your own limited knowledge

Cosmology and metaphysics waa guskeegi

 

[Dhabaal]

Idiot completely missed the point I was trying to make. Just because pagan Arabs used the name Allah to refer to their diety, doesn't mean islam is worshipping a pagan god. And the same way just because you knew spaghetti as a tasty dish you have for lunch, doesn't mean my god is literally a spaghetti. But to decrease confusion to your frail mind. Let's call him Shmallah and me a follower of Shmallah. Why aren't you praying to my Shmallah even tho he fills all the criteria of a god? Namely existing out of space and time and being immaterial

I did not refer to a pagan diety. I was refering to it not being a pagan terminology. Allah is the Arabic equivalent for the word ''God'. It designates the God the true monoteistic God of Abrahamic Religion.

Your point is logically incoherent. Calling something by a different term doesn't change anything. We call God Ebbe in the Somali language, but do we refer to something different.

In Spanish ,Apple is called Manzana in German it's called Apfel. Do the terms used interchangebly refer to something else or to the same thing?

Its rubbish semantics.

Also did I mention he told me himself in my man cave? What more evidence do you need?

You need to go see a doctor.

 

[McLovin]

You didn't disprove Shmallah tho. Why do you have a habit of talking around an argument instead of addressing the main rebuttals? I swear you are not different than a zombie with a keyboard. I'm out

You need to go see a doctor.

I agree. Unfortunately there weren't many doctors around when Muhammad started hearing voices in his cave. Poor guys schizophrenia started a whole religion

 

[Dhabaal]

You didn't disprove Shmallah tho.

Calling something by different terms doesn't change the fact that you are referring to the same thing. Calling Allah Shmallah doesn't change the fact that you are referring to same thing
We call God . ''Ebbe'' in the Somali Language and we use that term in our Quranic translations, but does that mean it's a different God being spoken of? no its the same Diety just a different word for it,


I call Apple for Shmapple. Please disprove Shmapple.



Logic is definitely not your strong suit

 

[McLovin]

Calling something by different terms doesn't change the fact that you are referring to the same thing.

I am not referring to the same thing. Shmallah is a new god which I have encountered in my man cave. He has his own religion, laws, and teachings which are distinct from the Islamic one. More importantly he is immaterial and exists outside of space time

Calling Allah Shmallah doesn't change the fact that you are referring to same thing
We call God .

Shmallah is not the Islamic god you are confusing him with. I have already established that. Stop obsessing over the name and focus on the essence of the argument

Unless you are arguing that all religions come from a unitary source which would make islam not the only right religion but one of the many ones leading to god

''Ebbe'' in the Somali Language and we use that term in our Quranic translations, but does that mean it's different God being spoken of?

More filler that has nothing to do with the subject. Please take your adhd medicine next time

 

[McLovin]

You can choose to not believe in Shmallah if you want. But you can't disprove him is all I'm sayin

 

[McLovin]

Tfw your belief in Allah is just as absurd as belief in a diety I just made up a couple of hours ago


Is this where that faith part comes in?