NGOs civil war fetish

[codewebsduh]

In March we kept hearing by foreign NGOs and foreign backed "think tanks" that Mogadishu would be on the brink of a civil war if Farmaajo didn't step down immediately.

Everyday we are seeing a plethora of messages exposing the inner workings of our enemies. These constant claims of civil war is due to the yearning of civil war.

Somalias biggest problem is a lack of centralisation. Nooone wants to admit it but no country on earth has developed without a significant amount centralism.

I expect that over the next 4 years we will see Koonfur further centralise under Mogadishu which would help security and economic growth as a whole.

Otherwise we will see the further regression of Somalia and its ultimate demise into a nation of suicide bombers and khat munchers.

 

[codewebsduh]

This is what clannists want, illiterate clan states each begging the white man for crumbs.

 

[repo]

Did you go back to Sanaag during your recent trips?

 

[codewebsduh]

Did you go back to Sanaag during your recent trips?

Wrong thread

 

[Kanan]

Warlords used to fight over who gets to receive and steal NGO's aid. Literally had there been no aid competing factions would starve and try to work something out.

 

[codewebsduh]

Warlords used to fight over who gets to receive and steal NGO's aid. Literally had there been no aid competing factions would stave and try to work something out.

Aid is a cash grab for both factions. NGOS pay themselves 100K per year in a country where the average person earns less then 2$ a day.

Aid needs to be funneled into job producing systems, give a giant trawler to the government so people can fish and bring in millions.

I'm a big supporter of Sankara, before assassination by the french he was transforming his nation into an independent powerhouse.

I truly believe they want us begging fo crumbs as we are easier to control that way. If they make Somalia powerful it will quickly focus on itself, thus they give just enough so that we are obediant yet not completely useless.

 

[Murax]

@codewebsduh

Yup I peeped this a long time ago. It’s one of the propaganda lies, Sahan, Garoweonline, all these other treacherous entities used to try to peddle. It got so ugly that the lame White Dude Bryden said on a AlJazeera special ‘There were bombs last night in Mogadishu, and people were terrified’. One of the other guests, a Somali girl bless her heart responded ‘I live in Mogadishu, and it was quiet no bombs’. He shut his mouth it was so embarrassing

The whole goal of this ‘impending doom’ agenda is to a la AY 2009, create the narrative that the current leader is unfit, and new leadership is necessary to ‘stabilize things’ aka the Shariif Asmara group. Shareef is there now, and the same rinse, and repeat was tried to no avail, and that’s how the cookie crumbled

 

[Kanan]

Aid is a cash grab for both factions. NGOS pay themselves 100K per year in a country where the average person earns less then 2$ a day.

Aid needs to be funneled into job producing systems, give a giant trawler to the government so people can fish and bring in millions.

I'm a big supporter of Sankara, before assassination by the french he was transforming his nation into an independent powerhouse.

I truly believe they want us begging fo crumbs as we are easier to control that way. If they make Somalia powerful it will quickly focus on itself, thus they give just enough so that we are obediant yet not completely useless.

You missed the big picture, Somalia was always destitute country racking up aid, loan and grants whatever it can lies its hands on.

I'm talking about post 1991 Somali warlord factions in south Somalia. Isaaq & Harti established some semblance of state institutions and government administrations without foreign aid.

D&M as well as south Darood were not strong or organized enough to form a functional government.


But above all Hawiye have failed to establish a Somali central government on their own turf despite running formidable militia'S and abundant access of international aid. They failed to reconcile and leverage Mogadishu as a unifying Somali capital post civil war.

 

[codewebsduh]

You missed the big picture, Somalia was always destitute country racking up aid, loan and grants whenever it can lies its hands on.

I'm talking about post 1991 Somali warlords factions in south Somalia. Isaaq & Harti established some semblance of state institutions and government administrations without foreign aid.

D&M as well as south Darood were not strong or organized enough to government.


But above all Hawiye have failed to establish a functioning government on their own regions despite military dominance and abundance of aid. They failed to reconcile and leverage Mogadishu as a unifying capital post civil war.


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You need to think beyond this bullshit, there is no genetic evidence for clans existing. The reason the south is more tumultuos is due to the geography of the region and the large population.


Somalia was always dirt poor and reliant on foreigners. The only solution is to focus on reducing their influence by focusing on internal growth methods.

China and most of Asia is growing due to centralizing the government and focusing on internal growth without relying on foreigners. We need to do the same.

 

[codewebsduh]

@codewebsduh

Yup I peeped this a long time ago. It’s one of the propaganda lies, Sahan, Garoweonline, all these other treacherous entities used to try to peddle. It got so ugly that the lame White Dude Bryden said on a AlJazeera special ‘There were bombs last night in Mogadishu, and people were terrified’. One of the other guests, a Somali girl bless her heart responded ‘I live in Mogadishu, and it was quiet no bombs’. He shut his mouth it was so embarrassing

The whole goal of this ‘impending doom’ agenda is to a la AY 2009, create the narrative that the current leader is unfit, and new leadership is necessary to ‘stabilize things’ aka the Shariif Asmara group. Shareef is there now, and the same rinse, and repeat was tried to no avail, and that’s how the cookie crumbled

Yep , its the same playbook seen before. Somalia is getting Stronger. If you want to hold power come to Mogadishu don't hide in you're tuulos

 

[FBIsomalia]

In March we kept hearing by foreign NGOs and foreign backed "think tanks" that Mogadishu would be on the brink of a civil war if Farmaajo didn't step down immediately.

Everyday we are seeing a plethora of messages exposing the inner workings of our enemies. These constant claims of civil war is due to the yearning of civil war.

Somalias biggest problem is a lack of centralisation. Nooone wants to admit it but no country on earth has developed without a significant amount centralism.

I expect that over the next 4 years we will see Koonfur further centralise under Mogadishu which would help security and economic growth as a whole.

Otherwise we will see the further regression of Somalia and its ultimate demise into a nation of suicide bombers and khat munchers.

Puntland & Somaliland without Central power. They working fine?.

 

[mr steal your naag]

Puntland & Somaliland without Central power. They working fine?.

this nigga is crazy he wants the old way back. Were everybody invest their money and listen to xamar and forget their own cities. Those days are over

 

[FBIsomalia]

this nigga is crazy he wants the old way back. Were everybody invest their money and listen to xamar and forget their own cities. Those days are over

I use to hear, Under Kacaan regime. No one can build two floor outside Xamar, or finish high school in his gobol outside Xamar.

Those idiots wants to bring back Dead regime that break our Country in the first place.

Xarmaajo today sent threats to UN like Kacaan used to do in 80s.

UN should capture his langaab ass and put him in jail as soon as possible.

 

[Kanan]

You need to think beyond this bullshit, there is no genetic evidence for clans existing. The reason the south is more tumultuos is due to the geography of the region and the large population.


Somalia was always dirt poor and reliant on foreigners. The only solution is to focus on reducing their influence by focusing on internal growth methods.

China and most of Asia is growing due to centralizing the government and focusing on internal growth without relying on foreigners. We need to do the same.

Bro your western, wide-eyed, naive, armchair, circle jerk of approach won't work on primitive tribally charged society such as that of Somalia. Copy - pasting socialist propaganda while overlooking the stark differences between Chinese and Somali settings will repeat the previous failures and prolong the never ending cycle of conflict.

 

[TekNiKo]

We need a centralized system which adequately addresses the tribal differences fracturing our nation. I suggest we create a House of Elders similar to SL and pay them to resolve any tribal tensions. That way all tribes shall be represented equally.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

Bro your western, wide-eyed, naive, armchair, circle jerk of approach won't work on primitive tribally charged society such as that of Somalia. Copy - pasting socialist propaganda while overlooking the stark differences between Chinese and Somali settings will repeat the previous failures and prolong the never ending cycle of conflict.

Could you tell us what exactly will not work in Somalia?

 

[Kanan]

Could you tell us what exactly will not work in Somalia?

A unitary system without genuine reconciliation will never work in Somalia.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

A unitary system without genuine reconciliation will never work in Somalia.

I thought you were implying Somalis were too low IQ to have a unitary government.

On a more serious note, what would reconciliation look like? I understand in the Isaaq context this means arresting and trying officers complicit in the genocide, but what about everywhere else? Is there still resentment between different clans in southern regions?

 

[Kanan]

I thought you were implying Somalis were too low IQ to have a unitary government.

We did for 9 years post Independence. The situation now is vastly different. Everyone is scarred from Kacan ruthless central rule and don't wish to entertain a unitary government dominated by a rival clan.

Rahanweyne & minorities are actively supporting Al Shabaab insurgency as a counter measure to Hawiye's political might & Darood's foreign backers.


Already existing functioning federal states are strongly apposed to a central system and will sabotage any attempt to move ahead with the transition.


Every head of state will delay the permanent constitution in hope to influence federal states to accept a unitary system and abolish the fed.


A shitshow of epic proportions.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

We did for 9 years post Independence. The situation now is vastly different. Everyone is scarred from Kacan ruthless region and don't wish to entertain a unitary government dominated by a rival clan.

Rahanweyne & minorities are actively supporting Al Shabaab insurgency as a counter measure to Hawiye's political might & Darood foreign backers.


Already existing functioning federal states are strongly apposed to a central system and will sabotage any attempt to move ahead with the transition.


Every head of state will delay the permanent constitution in hope to influence federal states to accept a unitary one.


What a shitshow.

Could you re-read my initial comment? I had questions.