New Scramble For Africa

[DR OSMAN]

@anon2 The speaker made some powerful points. The NGO economic model is purely around making africans dependent and weak not independent and strong, becuz your dependency is their INDUSTRY, people r making salaries, buying homes, cars, or creating savings for investment, why would they want to stop this by making you free? It's sad africans think this 'free shit' hand-out is a BENEFIT to them, they don't know the 'millions' of ppl who are making much more from it at the local EXPENSE.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I love these brutal and frank discussion forums on the challenges facing the continent rather then deflectin to a shared enemy threat 'colonial'

 

[DR OSMAN]

Rageedi I told Somalis the same on here. Learning is universal, hadith even say go to china to seek it, today it's in the west, tommorow maybe elsewhere, the point is ALWAYS SEEK IT and bring it back to your homeland and CUSTOMIZE IT not COPY N PASTE IT.

Our people do not learn knowledge the same way other cultures do, we must find the best local school, look at their approaches, look at historical or religious learning approaches, customize customize customize to beautiful african learning experience with POSITIVE OUTCOMES. We don't need learning that produce no outcomes.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I do support the idea that smaller countries on the continent are in the interest of larger countries thru divide and rule, and their pitted against each other for 'scraps' which none win.

I think it's wise Somalia give a pledge to having a common shared policies across AU, EAU, ETC. We must reject the IMF vision that Africa is just a breadbasket or primary industry economy where europe/asia/america come and take resources which they value add in their own countries.

We must pledge that our aspiration for Africa is we all want a diversified market place, we must pledge that our first interest is knowledge transfer partners in the 'security' industry, so we can develop our own weapons and manage our own security.

Other knowledge transfer partners in STEM will be given 'second priority', we don't seek this 'trade' partner nonsense and forever remain hostage to it.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I would tell africans you fall into these environmental groups.

1. Coastal and Merchant
2. Farming
3. Herders
4. Hunter/Gatherers
5. Pre-existing Kingdoms/Sultanates prior to colonialism

We should tell all african cultures that are herders to sit in their own council and work out continental challenges and solutions, we should repeat the same for farmers, coastal, hunter/gatherers. I will tell kingdom/sultanates to assess all recommendations n solutions and add your 'final touches' of diplomacy.

We could tap into all our diverse occupational mind-sets and craft an african solution which is home-grown, rather then re-applying failed solutions from abroad. U simply can't cut n paste western solutions, it doesn't work, and repeating this constantly is pure madness. China didn't copy n paste from europe, it crafted systems to fit local realities.

That's why europe wants africa as small states becuz it means ur 'pool' of hope is 'small' also and therefore your 'stuck' to dependency from them.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Our private markets and business model should take into account pre-existing business models prior to colonialism, look at western/eastern models where there is a benefit and if it can be crafted in to african models.

Once we know the blue-print on how businesses need to operate for success, we apply these solutions into all our countries. We can repeat this strategy where-ever we see under-performance in our societies.

 

[DR OSMAN]

We need strong discussions focused in the following areas.

1. Businesses
2. Workers
3. Students
4. Academia
5. Govt institutions

Businesses must present their current models, it's success/failure rate, assess pre-existing colonial models, tap into west/east models, craft a final solution. We must look at worker productivity and assess if their delivering value. We must look at the school system to ensure the student outcomes are high quality.

We need to look at academia to set it up to monitor african environment to study pain points and solutions. We also need a Patent office in each country to store it's innovations before it's stolen and have eyes-ears in academia-big companies-patent office-etc. Finally we need to dicuss solutions to our poor governance in institutions, this strong man and weak system approach has shown no positive returns.

No amount of social reform to eliminate bad social practises will work, if the governance itself is rotten and only existin in 'name' not 'practise'. We need a mixed approach to address social ills and address governance imperfections. Social ills/governance problems only cure is accountability-naming/shaming, trasparency to show which city-town-clan-tribe has lowest performance so people ABUSE THEM in public as 'burden'.

 

[NordicSomali]

@anon2 The speaker made some powerful points. The NGO economic model is purely around making africans dependent and weak not independent and strong, becuz your dependency is their INDUSTRY, people r making salaries, buying homes, cars, or creating savings for investment, why would they want to stop this by making you free? It's sad africans think this 'free shit' hand-out is a BENEFIT to them, they don't know the 'millions' of ppl who are making much more from it at the local EXPENSE.

I think the NGOs have good intentions behind their work and it’s not to foster a dependency even if that’s some of the consequences that happens.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I think the NGOs have good intentions behind their work and it’s not to foster a dependency even if that’s some of the consequences that happens.

Charity doesn't work. It never has and never will. If you teach a person to fish, his free, if u tell him to wait for the western fish, he will sit in idleness and wait for eternity becuz he isn't independent. Charity doesn't lead to independence, it cannot, they will remain in the same circular begging rounds when the last charity donation runs out. The only ppl who benefit are the NGO supply chains and internal stakeholders, period.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I think the NGOs have good intentions behind their work and it’s not to foster a dependency even if that’s some of the consequences that happens.

Why would a charity want to cure poverty, demonstrate a 'practical or even theoritical reason'? this would end their careers and market place, their is conflict of interest regarding the mission of charities vs their own 'interest' to grow and thrive, and how can they grow n thrive, well to 'expand dependency and poverty' and reject any solution that may lead to 'independence'

 

[NordicSomali]

Why would a charity want to cure poverty, demonstrate a 'practical or even theoritical reason'? this would end their careers and market place, their is conflict of interest regarding the mission of charities vs their own 'interest' to grow and thrive, and how can they grow n thrive, well to 'expand dependency and poverty' and reject any solution that may lead to 'independence'

This sounds like an unrealistic conspiracy. Which NGO wants to “expand dependency and poverty “? These aren’t a for-profit institutions so there’s no “marketplace”. And the donors definitely care about their money being well-spent.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This sounds like an unrealistic conspiracy. Which NGO wants to “expand dependency and poverty “? These aren’t a for-profit institutions so there’s no “marketplace”. And the donors definitely care about their money being well-spent.

Do u know a charity business model is to get donations from public or govt dedicated taxes? where u think they get the money? from themselves? they use this money on their in house staff, building, equipments, they have ceo on multi million dollar salaries, then they have internal supply chains, only if 20% reaches the poor and it doesn't cure the poverty, becuz poverty cure is independence, once they have used up their funds, they come back again for more begging rounds. So their goal is to 'spread poverty' or else their charities will no longer be able to get donations from govt or public, they know this, and everyone know this BUT U.

It doesn't matter if it's a school or well they build, it will last for a few years before it break down and needs moree BEGGING ROUND. Your then stuck in that cycle.

Plus it's absolutely haram in Islam an ABLED bodied person gets charity, it's only for disabled or elderly, not the YOUTH of a fuckin nation. No religion condones this shit.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Rageedi I told Somalis the same on here. Learning is universal, hadith even say go to china to seek it, today it's in the west, tommorow maybe elsewhere, the point is ALWAYS SEEK IT and bring it back to your homeland and CUSTOMIZE IT not COPY N PASTE IT.

Our people do not learn knowledge the same way other cultures do, we must find the best local school, look at their approaches, look at historical or religious learning approaches, customize customize customize to beautiful african learning experience with POSITIVE OUTCOMES. We don't need learning that produce no outcomes.

the china hadith is weak.

 

[DR OSMAN]

the china hadith is weak.

Omar I know u want Somalis not to learn so they become isolated like aborigines and eventually extinct. Nice try

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Omar del Sur I will combat your wahabi islam, u worship abdul-wahab god, not the god of adam, u son of a biij, the god of adam said adam is free, what the hell are u doing tryin to interere in ppl freedom, something u need to answer for, not me.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Omar I know u want Somalis not to learn so they become isolated like aborigines and eventually extinct. Nice try

You can make fake claims about me if you like but I'm not the one that said the China hadith is weak. the scholars have said it's weak, that hadith is well known to be a weak hadith and I think some even said it's fabricated.

 

[DR OSMAN]

You can make fake claims about me if you like but I'm not the one that said the China hadith is weak. the scholars have said it's weak, that hadith is well known to be a weak hadith and I think some even said it's fabricated.

The god of adam said adam has free will FREEDOM, your scholar who report to abdulwahab GOD say otherwise. So your god is not the god of adam, PERIOD. Now piss off, my islam and yours are not the same

 

[Omar del Sur]

@Omar del Sur I will combat your wahabi islam, u worship abdul-wahab god, not the god of adam, u son of a , the god of adam said adam is free, what the hell are u doing tryin to interere in ppl freedom, something u need to answer for, not me.

if you translate "freedom" from Westernese into plain English it means "sexual immorality".... zina... homoism... etc. all sort of weird deviant stuff. that is the "freedom" they're so obsessed with. i don't care anything about their "freedom" slogan.

 

[DR OSMAN]

if you translate "freedom" from Westernese into plain English it means "sexual immorality".... zina... homoism... etc. all sort of weird deviant stuff. that is the "freedom" they're so obsessed with. i don't care anything about their "freedom" slogan.

I have the right to be sinner, adam was given free will. If god didnt want adam ppl to have free will, he would make us angels

 

[Omar del Sur]

The god of adam said adam has free will FREEDOM, your scholar who report to abdulwahab GOD say otherwise. So your god is not the god of adam, PERIOD. Now piss off, my islam and yours are not the same

freedom, schmeedom... I would ban atheists from spreading their deviancy and I would laugh if people weeped about it