my thoughts on "educated somalis"

[aden1812]

I currently have a Master's degree in Computer Science and am pursuing another in Construction Engineering. On LinkedIn, I've see many Somalis with advanced degrees in fields like Political Science, Government, and MBAs predominantly working in non-profit organizations. I believe our nation would benefit from a more diverse representation of educational backgrounds, especially in areas like infrastructure development, to address the pressing needs of our people.

It's essential that those in leadership roles in Somalia possess the practical skills and experience to rebuild and rejuvenate our country. I think there's a critical need for professionals with hands-on experience in sectors beyond the non-profit realm. A nation is built on business, considering certain government officials may be overly dependent on foreign aid, we should focus on skilled labor, not professional beggars.

I would take a mechanic, welder, truck driver, plumber, over a person with an advanced degree in unemployability.

 

[Bari🐍]

Somalia has no industry, it's all NGO. I respect the hustle of those Somalis, stop pocket watching warya

 

[Febbie]

The more educated Somalis the better. Especially in STEM subjects.

The main problem with Somalia thats holding it back, is the instability. Once strong institutions with little corruption and a peaceful society takes place, more professionals and people with skills in trade from the diaspora will flock in.

 

[johnsepei5]

The mass migration to Somalia once Somalia is stable enough to accomadate foreigners and diaspora is inevitable

 

[mohamedismail]

The mass migration to Somalia once Somalia is stable enough to accomadate foreigners and diaspora is inevitable

May Allah bring peace and stability to our country. Can't wait to go back

 

[Hodan from HR]

The people in the nonprofit sector are meant to "keep you in check" by passing laws that ensure not all the natural resources are depleted for the sake of profit and some is left behind for future generations.

For example in the environmental field, we consider how anthropogenic developments impacts local/regional ecosystems and its long-term effects on biodiversity. Some species are known to rely on large undisturbed forest areas and may face extinction due to habitat disruptions and fragmentation caused by building infrastructure.


I can't speak for the "professional beggars" but it will be important for Somalia to focus on sustainable development to ensure its long-term progress regardless..

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

I currently have a Master's degree in Computer Science and am pursuing another in Construction Engineering. On LinkedIn, I've see many Somalis with advanced degrees in fields like Political Science, Government, and MBAs predominantly working in non-profit organizations. I believe our nation would benefit from a more diverse representation of educational backgrounds, especially in areas like infrastructure development, to address the pressing needs of our people.

It's essential that those in leadership roles in Somalia possess the practical skills and experience to rebuild and rejuvenate our country. I think there's a critical need for professionals with hands-on experience in sectors beyond the non-profit realm. A nation is built on business, considering certain government officials may be overly dependent on foreign aid, we should focus on skilled labor, not professional beggars.

I would take a mechanic, welder, truck driver, plumber, over a person with an advanced degree in unemployability.

I would agree, more technical skills would benefit the nation in its reconstruction phase. Not being able to make a nail in the 21st century is not a state to be.

Could I ask: why the switch from Comp. Sci. to Construction Eng. post graduate edu.?

 

[aden1812]

I would agree, more technical skills would benefit the nation in its reconstruction phase. Not being able to make a nail in the 21st century is not a state to be.

Could I ask: why the switch from Comp. Sci. to Construction Eng. post graduate edu.?

I didn’t switch, I work in data and my industry is construction. Allot of companies are more digital, and companies are willing to pay $200+ for a construction project manager with deep technical knowledge.

 

[aden1812]

The people in the nonprofit sector are meant to "keep you in check" by passing laws that ensure not all the natural resources are depleted for the sake of profit and some is left behind for future generations.

For example in the environmental field, we consider how anthropogenic developments impacts local/regional ecosystems and its long-term effects on biodiversity. Some species are known to rely on large undisturbed forest areas and may face extinction due to habitat disruptions and fragmentation caused by building infrastructure.


I can't speak for the "professional beggars" but it will be important for Somalia to focus on sustainable development to ensure its long-term progress regardless..

Nothing against what u do, but as the saying goes “they care more about the monkeys, lions, and elephants before they care about us”

I don’t agree with ubanization like in the west, but everyone having access to food, water, electricity, and internet should be basic a human right. And those things don’t just happen, people have to build them, and an advanced degree in gender studies is not going to get us there.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

I didn’t switch, I work in data and my industry is construction. Allot of companies are more digital, and companies are willing to pay $200+ for a construction project manager with deep technical knowledge.

Good. Let not be temped by the higher pay. I would opt for quality of work instead (having worked with some on projects, I would not swap my hat for any highly paid project manager; not pretty close-up), for technical skill is an important determinant in the long run, and when an economy declines, those Project managers are the first to disappear whereas those with technical skills remain till the end, even in a bust.

 

[Hodan from HR]

Nothing against what u do, but as the saying goes “they care more about the monkeys, lions, and elephants before they care about us”

Assuming you are Muslim, are you familiar with the concept of Israaf/extravagance and khalifa fil ardh/stewardship of earth?

Environmental workers care about both human and animals' quality of life which depends on the state of our natural environment. When we have pesticides killing wild animals en masse, household items like nonstick cooking pans or shampoos causing cancer, we really have to reevaluate if we are improving humans' life by availing things they can survive without while robbing their health in return.

All I am advocating for is Somalia has the chance to learn from other developed countries' and not go overboard with these man-made developments..

I don’t agree with ubanization like in the west, but everyone having access to food, water, electricity, and internet should be basic a human right. And those things don’t just happen, people have to build them, and an advanced degree in gender studies is not going to get us there.

I get it.

We all take pride in our chosen professions and believe we contribute the most to society. Truth is your role is just as important as that of someone with an advanced degree in the social sciences. In my opinion, they hold the real power to enact changes as policy makers and in their interactions with the people.

You, as an engineer, will spend most of your time doing what you're trained for. Other people will ensure that everyone has access to essentials like food, water, and electricity – this is where individuals in the social sciences come in. They oversee programs such as income assistance for low-income households, foster programs etc. So, it is not fair to underestimate these professions just because their contributions might not seem as tangible as building bridges or airplanes.

 

[hamar_oo_iidil]

The people in the nonprofit sector are meant to "keep you in check" by passing laws that ensure not all the natural resources are depleted for the sake of profit and some is left behind for future generations.

For example in the environmental field, we consider how anthropogenic developments impacts local/regional ecosystems and its long-term effects on biodiversity. Some species are known to rely on large undisturbed forest areas and may face extinction due to habitat disruptions and fragmentation caused by building infrastructure.


I can't speak for the "professional beggars" but it will be important for Somalia to focus on sustainable development to ensure its long-term progress regardless..

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[Hmohamed54]

May Allah bring peace and stability to our country. Can't wait to go back

That won’t happen. Even in our prime, somali’s were mostly very poor.

 

[Bari🐍]

That won’t happen. Even in our prime, somali’s were mostly very poor.

Poverty ≠ no peace and stability

You can be poor and have stability.

 

[Hodan from HR]

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[aden1812]

That won’t happen. Even in our prime, somali’s were mostly very poor.

Poverty is a social construct

access to food, water, and electricity is not a choice, and somalis have to accept everyone deserves those things.

People are identified based on their values, we are poor because our values don’t align with modern civility.

 

[aden1812]

Assuming you are Muslim, are you familiar with the concept of Israaf/extravagance and khalifa fil ardh/stewardship of earth?

Environmental workers care about both human and animals' quality of life which depends on the state of our natural environment. When we have pesticides killing wild animals en masse, household items like nonstick cooking pans or shampoos causing cancer, we really have to reevaluate if we are improving humans' life by availing things they can survive without while robbing their health in return.

All I am advocating for is Somalia has the chance to learn from other developed countries' and not go overboard with these man-made developments..




I get it.

We all take pride in our chosen professions and believe we contribute the most to society. Truth is your role is just as important as that of someone with an advanced degree in the social sciences. In my opinion, they hold the real power to enact changes as policy makers and in their interactions with the people.

You, as an engineer, will spend most of your time doing what you're trained for. Other people will ensure that everyone has access to essentials like food, water, and electricity – this is where individuals in the social sciences come in. They oversee programs such as income assistance for low-income households, foster programs etc. So, it is not fair to underestimate these professions just because their contributions might not seem as tangible as building bridges or airplanes.

We need 1,000x more engineers than we do environmentalists. But in Somalia it’s literally the other way around, it’s amazing how the west mentally screwed us.

 

[aden1812]

Good. Let not be temped by the higher pay. I would opt for quality of work instead (having worked with some on projects, I would not swap my hat for any highly paid project manager; not pretty close-up), for technical skill is an important determinant in the long run, and when an economy declines, those Project managers are the first to disappear whereas those with technical skills remain till the end, even in a bust.

Project manager for construction is very lucrative, but I don’t build, I work with data analytic tools to control costs. That skill is universal regardless of industry.

 

[Hodan from HR]

We need 1,000x more engineers than we do environmentalists. But in Somalia it’s literally the other way around, it’s amazing how the west mentally screwed us.

I agree with your point in that if there's a shortage of engineers, we should train more individuals in that field. However, I only engaged in this discussion to address your biases regarding other professions. A rather futile attempt I must say..