MUSLIMOW! Smelling the Islamophobia after the Chechens were dispatched to Ukraine

[ProMichaelAli]

The irony of the "Jerusalem Post" making an article about violations of Gay rights when they also treat their fellow citizens like this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/31/...-in-jerusalem-for-second-time-police-say.html
A new wave of islamophobia is currently in the works and it will have an effect on many of you. I do not condone the killing of innocents nor do I condone using a time like to spread your obvious Islamophobia and hatred for another group.

 

[Molotoff]

The Chechens shouldnt even be there. This is not their war. They sold themselves to the russians.

 

[Kool-Aid]

 

[Leila]

Are these the same Chechens that the Russians were killing without mercy 20 years ago ?

 

[ProMichaelAli]

The Chechens shouldnt even be there. This is not their war. They sold themselves to the russians.

Not all Chechens are on Putin's side. There's a militia that's fighting for Ukraine against Putin.

 

[ProMichaelAli]

Are these the same Chechens that the Russians were killing without mercy 20 years ago ?

Yes, the very same Muslim bearded men that were chanting Allahu Akbar.

 

[HiraanBorn]

The Chechens shouldnt even be there. This is not their war. They sold themselves to the russians.

Kadyrov is good friends with Putin so it's not really a surprise. Soldiers fight in wars and the Chechens are under Russian control, so they haven't really sold themselves.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I mean... they were given basically their own autonomous region where they've implemented some degree of sharia measures... I don't know of anywhere in the West where there is a community of Muslims and the West gives them their own autonomous region and let's them implement sharia laws.... instead it's all about trying to turn Muslims into liberals, trying to get women to take off the hijab.... Russia is the only case I know where of where they say "okay, whatever" and not only don't try to change the Muslims but sit back and let them implement sharia.... I guess they reached that understanding after the fighting but it seems like a pretty reasonable understanding to me... if there is a Western country where they do that, I would like to know

 

[mrlog]

I mean... they were given basically their own autonomous region where they've implemented some degree of sharia measures... I don't know of anywhere in the West where there is a community of Muslims and the West gives them their own autonomous region and let's them implement sharia laws.... instead it's all about trying to turn Muslims into liberals, trying to get women to take off the hijab.... Russia is the only case I know where of where they say "okay, whatever" and not only don't try to change the Muslims but sit back and let them implement sharia.... I guess they reached that understanding after the fighting but it seems like a pretty reasonable understanding to me... if there is a Western country where they do that, I would like to know

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[alexander]

What exactly is islamophobic about it? They invaded a sovereign country on the orders of a despot, they shouldn’t only be killed but skinned a life.

 

[ProMichaelAli]

What exactly is islamophobic about it? They invaded a sovereign country on the orders of a despot, they shouldn’t only be killed but skinned a life.

Don't you see the sources specifically mention 'GAY-PURGE' after the death of a Chechen general and one of them happens to be from IsRaEl. I was just pointing out that they're using this tragic event to mask their obvious islamophobia. At least you won't be harassed by people because of your religion.

 

[Periplus]

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[Iceman88]

I mean... they were given basically their own autonomous region where they've implemented some degree of sharia measures... I don't know of anywhere in the West where there is a community of Muslims and the West gives them their own autonomous region and let's them implement sharia laws.... instead it's all about trying to turn Muslims into liberals, trying to get women to take off the hijab.... Russia is the only case I know where of where they say "okay, whatever" and not only don't try to change the Muslims but sit back and let them implement sharia.... I guess they reached that understanding after the fighting but it seems like a pretty reasonable understanding to me... if there is a Western country where they do that, I would like to know

You need to learn history, the caucuses belong to the Chechen and other Muslim groups. The Russians don’t even belong there. You’re twerking for the Russians like periplus twerks for the west. They are as bad as each other,

 

[Periplus]

You’re twerking for the Russians like periplus twerks for the west. They are as bad as each other,

I only twerk for the West when it comes to Europe, when it comes MENA, I can twerk for Russia.

 

[Omar del Sur]

You need to learn history, the caucuses belong to the Chechen and other Muslim groups. The Russians don’t even belong there. You’re twerking for the Russians like periplus twerks for the west. They are as bad as each other,

Agreeing with one side over the over is not "twerking". The Quran talks about people who use "adorned speech". Saying agreeing with a given side is "twerking" is just adorned speech. There's no real substance to it. Either you agree that both sides are equally bad or you are "twerking" for a given side? So if you say one side is 51 percent better or worse you are "twerking"?

That is the problem with this unintellectual approach of relying on adorned speech rather than substantive argument.

The reality is I am an independent person, I am independent of Russia, of US and of any random person who comes and wants to dictate to me what my stance on foreign policy should be.

I made an observation. It is true, the Chechens were already there. They are not migrants in Paris, for example. But meanwhile the US wants to pressure even the Saudis who are an independent country into being less Islamic. They want to spend money on pushing feminism in Pakistan.

But I think the Chechens have a pretty reasonable arrangement with Russia, I think they clearly have a lot of independence within Russia while also benefitting from being a part of Russia. I make my own decision in terms of how I think in regards of these foreign issues, I do not believe that I am a stooge of Putin if I do not follow the White House line. I make my own decision and siding with who I want to side with is in fact an expression of the fact that I am a free and independent person. I have opposed Russia on multiple issues and I oppose them when I want to oppose them. I have opposed them on the Houthis, on Syria and Peru when it came to the Peruvian elections last year.

But the arrangement with the Chechens seems pretty reasonable to me. Do you have evidence of Russia doing things like threatening to sanction Nigeria if they don't allow homosexuality in their country? This is a fundamental difference in the US and Russian approach and you are being dishonest if you pretend otherwise. Russia itself is a conservative Christian country and doesn't have this same obsession to stamp out religious and traditional values that the United States has.



I don't believe in Christianity myself, much less Orthodox Christianity but I have more in common with a conservative Christian that with the atheistic degenerates of the West.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Just to give an example.

This is an article from a Russian outlet I was looking at. February 14th.

Muslims warned against celebrating Valentine's Day​

Мусульман предостерегли от празднования Дня святого Валентина

День святого Валентина в современных реалиях стала маркетинговой уловкой, он не связан с мусульманскими или российскими обычаями, а, напротив, имеет языческие... РИА Новости, 14.02.2022

ria.ru

MOSCOW, February 14 - RIA Novosti. Valentine's Day in modern realities has become a marketing ploy, it is not associated with Muslim or Russian customs, but, on the contrary, has pagan roots, and the faithful should not celebrate it, representatives of the Russian spiritual administrations of Muslims told RIA Novosti.
"In modern realities, this date, known in the West as St. Valentine's Day, is more of a well-thought-out marketing ploy designed to increase sales of goods and services," said Moscow Mufti Ildar Alyautdinov .
The religious figure said that in the Islamic religion, the theme of love and mutual understanding is given great attention.

"The believer strives to cultivate in his heart love for the Almighty and the Prophet Muhammad. The life of the faithful is based on love and respect for others. This is what elevates a person spiritually. And compliments and gifts are just tools on this path," Alyautdinov said.

Ahmad Abu Yahya, chief specialist of the Sharia Department of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims of the Republic of Tatarstan (SUM RT), said that Muslims are not recommended to celebrate Valentine's Day.
"There are two holidays in Islam: Kurban Bayram and Uraza Bayram. In addition to them, there are valuable and blessed days and nights (Mawlid, the night of Predestination - Laylatul-qadr, Friday day) Muslims respect all traditional religions, but do not take part in celebrating them religious holidays," he said.
The representative of the Spiritual Muslim Board of the Republic of Tatarstan believes that Muslims should evaluate the content of secular holidays.
"We look at their content. If these are significant historical dates, anniversaries of important events for our common state, then we can take part in them, remembering the heroic deeds of our ancestors, praying for the departed, as in the case of Victory Day, for example," said Ahmad Abu Yahya.
In his opinion, St. Valentine's Day for Russians is not a traditional holiday, but a relatively recent custom.
“In addition, this day has pagan roots and promotes free love and relationships without obligations. And Islam calls for family values and condemns adultery. Expressing love for your legal spouses should be daily throughout your life together, and not the only day of the year that is imposed us from the outside," the representative of the Spiritual Spiritual Administration of the Republic of Tatarstan said."



Notice how different this is than what you would see in Western media. In Western media, the article would likely be something like this:

"Muslim Extremists Reject Valentine's Day: Islamic hardliners rail against Valentine's Day
-Does this rhetoric fuel terrorism and hatred in Muslim communities?"

and then the next article will likely be: "Meet this brave Muslim lesbian woman defying stereotypes removing hijab".

There is a fundamental difference.

 

[Abdisamad]

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[Periplus]

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[Iceman88]

Omar de sur how can you have an arrangement with people who have wiped out atleast 10% of your population. Over 100k Chechen died in their war with Russia from 1993-200?. Do you know chechen number less than a million.

 

[reer]

Omar de sur how can you have an arrangement with people who have wiped out atleast 10% of your population. Over 100k Chechen died in their war with Russia from 1993-200?. Do you know chechen number less than a million.

chechens were not even a majority in chechnya in 1991 due to soviet settling of ethnic russians. in the chechen wars chechens were massacred possinbly gemocided. ahmad kadyrov a former indepdence fighter switched sides was later placed as kremlin puppet. hes the father of ramadan kadyrov.