this is horrible.
this is the tweet since it wasn't showing up
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this is horrible.
this is the tweet since it wasn't showing up
techsamatar
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Clocking in for your weekly shift - Khawariju’l-Qa’diyyah (sitters).
criticizing music concerts in Saudi is not kharijism.
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I don’t understand why you think there is a problem critiquing a government.
Nobody is saying overthrow them.
I don't mean anything against the Kuwait ruler but... I am just extremely offended that Saudi treats this old ruler peacefully passing away like this versus how it treats the genocide in Gaza.
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techsamatar
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I want to emphasize that this chameleon seems to harbour an unusual fetish for Muslim rulers, engaging in activities that provoke ordinary individuals against them. It's difficult to carry out these keyboard antics without the underlying belief that they would be pleased if the ruler were somehow removed. This obsession appears to be a hidden sickness that many people may not realize. Additionally, there's another type of behaviour that doesn't necessarily involve overthrowing rulers but is equally toxic Khawariju’l-Qa’diyyah (sitters). For instance, in a recent incident, they shared tweets of regular people enjoying food in Saudi Arabia, linking it to Muslims dying and attempting to incite hatred against them.
what's unusual is your strange devotion to MBS that you edited your post to cover
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so first off, here's what I posted
btw
1- this just shows you being deceptive yet again by misrepresenting my post
and
2- criticizing what some random ppl in Saudi were doing has nothing to do with what makes a person a khariji. but of course, it does for you, because it was in Saudi... if they were in, say, Pakistan or Somalia you wouldn't have cared.... but it's Saudi specifically that concerns you... you've openly said you're ok with criticism of HSM and Hamas but criticizing the Saudi gov makes a person a khariji... even criticizing ordinary people in Saudi makes a person a khariji... which is not in any classical definition of the khawarij... it really should raise questions as to whether your intention is to serve the din or the Saudi government and why you are so concerned with protecting the Saudi gov specifically... you're worried some SomaliSpotters are going to rise up against the Saudi gov, that talking about Saudi could lead to a civil war...
but you don't worry about criticism of the Somali gov leading to civil war when there's already a civil war and a militant group holding a chunk of the country?????
Would you ever criticize Saudi for anything they do, or are they immune from criticism?
techsamatar
I put Books to the Test of Life
In all due respect, I have little concern for Saudi and its affairs. Similarly, I hold no particular interest in Arab countries, except when it comes to the safety of the land of the Prophet, the well-being of those performing Umrah and Hajj, the preservation of religious practices, and the absence of oppression. I find no need to engage in your level of obsession, continuously flooding forums with negativity and criticism week after week.
In my view, those who sympathize with the Khawarij seem intent on transforming more Muslim nations into situations reminiscent of Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. I perceive them as enemies of the Ummah, standing right next to Judeo-plutocracy and Shi'ism. It appears that they actively support and plant the seeds for revolution, contributing to the toppling of regimes. Studying the beginning of the end of these failed Islamic lands reveals the extent of their impact.
Somalia is a nation in disarray, lacking any central authority or a centralized government. It's characterized by lawlessness and is a haven for criminals and scoundrels. The division is evident between the Khawarij rebels and the Judeo-Western puppet regime, the latter being entangled in clan politics without substantial power. Despite these challenges, I refrain from advocating for takfir and removal. Instead, I propose a more measured approach where a guided group engages in the democratic process, working to become the dominant party. Through this route, with the people's permission, they can then establish Sharia law and assume full control.
My focus lies in discussing the historical past of Somalia, shedding light on conspiracies and identifying the root causes behind the downfall of the united Somali people and the era of peace. My narrative delves into the adversaries surrounding us, aiming for our destruction and division. It's noteworthy that I refrain from discussing the current situation and avoid inciting hatred against politicians and tribal leaders. I do not advocate for their removal or engage in takfir against them.
show where I've made takfir of MBS.
techsamatar
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I do acknowledge that there are actions by Muslim rulers and scholars that I don't agree with. However, in my heart, I don't harbor obsession with matters that have no relevance to me, particularly as long as there is order and no oppression. I question whether I witness people in agony or distress, or if pilgrimage is disturbed, or if rulers disrupt any of the pillars of Islam. In the absence of such issues, I find no reason to spread seeds of poison or align with the Qa'diyyah (sitters). Engaging in such actions seems to offer no benefit to me or anyone else, aside from being the root cause of chaos and disorder in Islamic lands that were once characterized by order and peace.
My perspective is not driven solely by personal desires or wishes but is rooted in the implementation of the Sunnah and the practices of the Salaf. It involves recognizing the divine knowledge of Allah. Examining the current state of affairs, it's evident that numerous Muslim nations have faced decline, and our collective standing is diminished today. The remedy against the stratagem of divide and conquer was provided through the Sunnah and the advice for rulers. Unfortunately, nations that did not heed this guidance find themselves in a state of misery today.
techsamatar
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You seem to be subtly guiding the conversation, and even if one lacks insight, reading your discussions on rulers and regimes suggests a clear inclination toward advocating for their removal and proposing a better alternative. It appears you aim to highlight the shortcomings and wrongs, which, in the end, may lead to a path of takfir.
Your posts and agenda bear a striking resemblance to Judeo-Western propaganda used against Islamic nations that have been destabilized. This similarity is evident in the approach of initiating criticism and highlighting the shortcomings of rulers, followed by the subtle encouragement of the audience to harbor resentment.
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I'm disappointed @techsamatar. It is well known that the Banu Sa'ud family are in bed with the Zionists, and yet you defend them. Another comrade has been bought by the ZOG. 
techsamatar
I put Books to the Test of Life
I'm probably the most outspoken anti-Semite on this site, having spent many hours researching literature on their nature, religion, and the ones behind the scenes, as well as the tactics of the world adversary and their ultimate objective and goal.I'm disappointed @techsamatar. It is well known that the Banu Sa'ud family are in bed with the Zionists, and yet you defend them. Another comrade has been bought by the ZOG.
I am aware of the rulers and their shortcomings, as well as the influence of international finance Jewry that has many nations under their control. What many people, especially the Muslim masses, may not comprehend is that these forces manipulate both sides of the coin. They have orchestrated a strategy of divide and conquer, aiming to weaken the Ummah by inciting revolutions, revolts, and fostering hatred. The insidious aspect lies in their ability to use the nations they have deceived and conquered to act against you from within, once the seeds of discord are sown.
Similar to their creation of capitalism and the exploitation of workers, they also orchestrated the development of communism. The masses were misled into believing that communism would liberate them. However, in reality, the workers were manipulated to become the final instrument in overthrowing the intellectual elite of a nation. This strategic move aimed to eliminate any opposition, leaving only the Jewish rulers in control of the masses. Subsequently, people would find themselves under the grip of state capitalism, where all land, property, and wealth would be concentrated in their hands, and individuals would be left with no ownership, working and toiling under the burden of income tax as a form of subjugation.
Allah has provided us with the remedy to remain a united body and not succumb to the tricks of revolutions and revolts, which often play into the hands of external forces. These tactics typically commence with the poison of slander and criticism by the Jews to incite hatred. The masses are manipulated into toppling their perceived foes, leading to further bloodshed and destabilization. The consequences are evident in the numerous Muslim nations, including our own, that are currently in a state of misery as a result of falling prey to such strategies.
I show "a clear inclination toward advocating their removal"... right, so criticising Saudi music concerts according to you means I'm a khariji and it also means I'm calling for rebellion against the Saudi gov... you act like the Saudi gov is paying you
you shameless liar. you have so little concern for Saudi you want to accuse ppl who criticize Saudi of being khawarij to try to prevent any criticism of Saudi. there is zero justification Islamically for accusing someone who is criticizing ordinary ppl in Saudi of being khawarij (in the case of the ppl eating the biggest food thing) yet you are willing to do stuff that is seriously against Islam just to serve the Saudi gov.
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Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There are four signs that make someone a pure hypocrite and whoever has them has a characteristic of hypocrisy until he abandons it: when he speaks he lies, when he makes a covenant he is treacherous, when he makes a promise he breaks it, and when he argues he is wicked.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 34, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 58
Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
I already exposed how you lied about having learned Arabic to study Islam. and casually calling people khawarij- including qeelbax who everyone knows is not a khariji.... in order to attack people who criticize Saudi.... if that's not being wicked when you argue then what is.... so you definitely have displayed two of the four munafiq traits mentioned in the hadith...
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 34, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 58
Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَرْبَعٌ مَنْ كُنَّ فِيهِ كَانَ مُنَافِقًا خَالِصًا وَمَنْ كَانَتْ فِيهِ خَصْلَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ كَانَتْ فِيهِ خَصْلَةٌ مِنَ النِّفَاقِ حَتَّى يَدَعَهَا إِذَا اؤْتُمِنَ خَانَ وَإِذَا حَدَّثَ كَذَبَ وَإِذَا عَاهَدَ غَدَرَ وَإِذَا خَاصَمَ فَجَرَ
I already exposed how you lied about having learned Arabic to study Islam. and casually calling people khawarij- including qeelbax who everyone knows is not a khariji.... in order to attack people who criticize Saudi.... if that's not being wicked when you argue then what is.... so you definitely have displayed two of the four munafiq traits mentioned in the hadith...
