Let us discuss...THE EXISTENCE OF GOD!

[Kalsoon]

Do you have a link to the thread. I don’t have access

It’s in this same post.

 

[Kalsoon]

Try to read this article when you get a chance.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/26745/existence-of-god-any-evidence

 

[jemappelle]

 

[DR OSMAN]

Try to read this article when you get a chance.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/26745/existence-of-god-any-evidence

Rather then prove GOD, listen to the arguments 'against god' by disbelievers. Study what our reasons are, our evidence, etc. Stop going to the quran or sheikhs to 'describe us' we can describe n defend ourselves.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Kalsoon

If a god exist and his only message to us is 'praise n worship' me or im going to send u to hell, that isn't a god that impresses me, im disgusted how inferior his message is. I would expect his message to be something like Da vinchi code complex, a message that puts to shame all philosophers, I don't see that. I see an inferior message.

The other reason is how backward muslims r today, when I observed them, I was like 'hell to the no these ppl have the right message' or else they wud be an example to the world leading in everything, that was another big factor in my first doubts.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Kalsoon it's not even about lack of evidence of god that is the issue. Many things exist beyond human knowledge. An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Things can exist beyond our human knowledge. The real issue is how inferior the message of this god is, it sounds like the rantings of 7th century bedouin.

Imagine teaching ppl it's religious blessing to have a 'beard, hijab, and eating with three fingers' looooooooooooooool, imagine how an atheist wud react

 

[DR OSMAN]

Everything in science today is put before their 'peers' to review, imagine they said 'believe wat i wrote and if u don't i will imprison u' lol, that would be inferior piece of work, and ur allah behaves like that.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The other thing is even if God does exist, wat in the world would make your 7th century bedouin rantings his true and only message? Why isn't their multiple route to god, ending in 1 destination. Why only 1 path, why not infinity paths with a common destination.

 

[DR OSMAN]

When I read the Quran it reminded me of the arab culture. Very hot n heated and very emotional and abusive on one side and very sweet, caring, cool on another side, that's what the quran sounds like a depiction of bedouin mind-set to god. There is no intellect or balance or medium ground, it's two extremes understanding only, which is how the arab mind is.

 

[JigjigaKismaayo]

we don't gotta prove shit to you murtad yahoow.
niggas spend a decade in the west and start to think they are philosophers or something.
gaal ilaahay ka furtay baad tahay and you deserve to be rediculed daanyeer yahoow.

 

[DR OSMAN]

we don't gotta prove shit to you murtad yahoow.
niggas spend a decade in the west and start to think they are philosophers or something.
gaal ilaahay ka furtay baad tahay and you deserve to be rediculed daanyeer yahoow.

See why r u judging me if this isn't man made? you contradict yourself, u say this isn't man made but All I see is men involved in every stage of it. I don't trust books that claim divinity and speaking to some secret god that no-one else can speak too and we should just hear n obey is irrational.

 

[Yibir_]

I have been wanting to get this off my chest for YEARS so here it goes. all the time i'm ridiculed because of my beliefs, or "non-beliefs" when it comes to religion.

So all I have to say is, give me PROOF a god exists, and i will worship all day everyday. as for the Bible/Towrah/Quran? in my opinion, its nonsense. who the hell knows who REALLY wrote then?

if I write a book today that said there was a magical chipmunk at the bottom of the ocean and it was discovered thousands or millions of years later in life would or should people believe it, with no proof supporting my statements and "stories" of this magical chipmunk? i mean COME ON?

Temples/mosques and church are a bunch of malarkey too, you sit in a building and listen to someone tell me how to worship a God they have no "personal" relationship with? they don't speak to God. they don't see God, so why in the world should I take their word?

I without a doubt believe if there is some type of Allah this God would be very disappointed in all these religions. making up stories. saying what God does and doesn't do without REALLY knowing. WHAT god would be proud of that? its outrageous these religions.

For people to look down on others for thinking this way(because I am not the only one) is quite hypocritical. I thought "no one can judge u but god himself"? yet the same Muslims and Christians who spew that garbage judge all the time? especially when it comes to sexuality. "god loves all his children" as long as their not gay though huh? i mean WTF? contradictions contradictions CONTRADICTIONS! i could go on forever with all the contradictions in these religions!.

I am Sorry. But there is no god.

No there isnt a God or Allah,you cant proof his existence, I have news for all of you too ,I had a friend that told me that...

Jesus was a CON-ARTIST...thats right. He would go around a TRICK people that there was a "superior" one and that there was hope. So you gave him money...Well they found and put that bastard on a cross and left that con-artist to die....Because its all not real....

Then who created earth??
Well...
A metior hit earth that contanied bactiera that grew under the cercumstances that earth was undergoing...and voila 6 billion years pass and shit evoiles....There!

If there is no god, then there isnt a heaven or hell. What happens why you die?
Good question...
It's an enteral sleep.
You dont feel anything.
Your just there.
Dont believe me? THEN GO KILL YOUR SELF AND FIND OUT YOUR SLEF

So with that said,who has an opinion on this subject because i would LOVE to hear it. seriously.

start here

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>PROOF a god exists
Prove you exist. You think therefore you’re not. Watch your passing thoughts (verbal/images) and observe clearly how none of them are in-fact you. An existential crisis? An eery bliss? Dread? If you then detach from your emotions and what is left of you?

>Jesus was a CON-ARTIST...thats right. He would go around a TRICK people that there was a "superior" one and that there was hope.
What prophet has ever came with claims of superiority? Whats wrong with hope? Doomers gon doom smh

>So you gave him money
To isa (as)? Nah.
… Niggas in paris

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[Kalsoon]

See why r u judging me if this isn't man made? you contradict yourself, u say this isn't man made but All I see is men involved in every stage of it. I don't trust books that claim divinity and speaking to some secret god that no-one else can speak too and we should just hear n obey is irrational.

May Allah guide you back to Islam and open your heart to hidayah. Ask for guidance and seek it out deeply because there will be a time when you won’t be able to do that anymore.

Sspot fam, let’s make dua for each other in this blessed month.