It's Precisely For Antics Like This Is How The Mongols Destroyed Baghdad And They Lost Spain.......

[Arma]

Their extravagance. They're actually gonna give this near 40 year old almost 200M a year:

 

[Arma]

When Genghis Khan took over the city of Samarkhand (one of the most wealthiest cities in the Islamic world and Imam Bukhari's hometown) he said that it was because of their extreme decadence, that Allah had sent him as a form of punishment. Which if you deep it, it absolutely right. It was similar decadence and infighting that Arabs also lost Spain and Portugal.

No football club in Europe wants to touch Ronaldo with a stick. Not even the lower tier league teams....Yet, these naago Arabs are throwing 1.2billion at him.

Ibn Khaldun was absolutely bang on with this analysis of the Arab nature. Go read up what he had to say about them 700 years ago. Spot on.

 

[Mount23]

25. Places that succumb to the Arabs are quickly ruined.

The (139) reason for this is that (the Arabs) are a savage nation, fully accustomed to savagery and the things that cause it. Savagery has become their character and nature. They enjoy it, because it means freedom from authority and no subservience to leadership. Such a natural disposition is the negation and antithesis of civilization. All the customary activities of the Arabs lead to travel and movement. This is the antithesis and negation of stationariness, which produces civilization. For instance, the Arabs need stones to set them up as supports for their cooking pots. So, they take them from buildings which they tear down to get the stones, and use them for that purpose. Wood, too, is needed by them for props for their tents and for use as tent poles for their dwellings. So, they tear down roofs toget the wood for that purpose. The very nature of their existence is the negation of building, which is the basis of civilization. This is the case with them quite generally.

Furthermore, it is their nature to plunder whatever other people possess. Their sustenance lies wherever the shadow of their lances falls. They recognize no limit in taking the possessions of other people. Whenever their eyes fall upon some property, furnishings, or utensils, they take it. When they acquire superiority androyal authority, they have complete power to plunder (as they please). There no longer exists any political (power) to protect property, and civilization is ruined.

Furthermore, since they use force to make craftsmen and professional workers do their work, they do not see any value in it and do not pay them for it. Now, as we shall mention, (140) labour is the real basis of profit. When labor is not appreciated and is done for nothing, the hope for profit vanishes, and no (productive) work is done. The sedentary population disperses, and civilization decays.

Furthermore, (the Arabs) are not concerned with laws. (They are not concerned) to deter people from misdeeds or to protect some against the others. They care only for the property that they might take away from people through looting and imposts. When they have obtained that, they have no interest in anything further, such as taking care of (people), looking after their interests, or forcing them not to commit misdeeds. They often level fines on property, because they want to get some advantage, some tax, or profit out of it. This is their custom. It does not help to prevent misdeeds or to deter those who undertake to commit (misdeeds). On the contrary, it increases (misdeeds), because as compared to getting what one wants, the (possible financial) loss (through fines) is insignificant.(141)

Under the rule of (the Arabs), the subjects live as in a state of anarchy, without law. Anarchy destroys mankind and ruins civilization, since, as we have stated, the existence of royal authority is a natural quality of man. It alone guarantees their existence and social organization. That was mentioned above at the beginning of the chapter.(142)

Furthermore, (every Arab) is eager to be the leader. Scarcely a one of them would cede his power to another, even to his his father, his brother, or the eldest (most important) member of his family. That happens only in rare cases and pressure of considerations of decency. There are numerous authorities and amirs among them. The subjects have to obey many masters in connection with the control of taxation and law. Civilization, thus, decays and is wiped out.

'Abd-al-Malik asked one Arab who had come to him on an embassy about al-Hajjaj. He wanted him to praise al Hajjaj for his good political leadership (for the benefit of) civilization. But the Arab said: "When I left him, he was acting unjustly all by himself." (142a)

It is noteworthy how civilization always collapsed in places the Arabs took over and conquered, and how such settlements were depopulated and the (very) earth there turned into something that was no (longer) earth. The Yemen where (the Arabs) live is in ruins, except for a few cities. Persian civilization in the Arab 'Iraq is likewise completely ruined. The same applies to contemporary Syria. When the Banu Hilal and the Banu Sulaym pushed through (from their homeland) to Ifrigiyah and the Maghrib in (the beginning of) the fifth [eleventh] century and struggled there for three hundred and fifty years, they attached themselves to (the country), and the flat territory in (the Maghrib) was completely ruined. Formerly, the whole region between the Sudan and the Mediterranean had been settled. This (fact) is attested by the relics of civilization there, such as monuments, architectural sculpture, and the visible remains of villages and hamlets.

Sounds like 100% description of Somalis, maybe Somalis really are Arabs

Their extravagance. They've actually gonna give this near 40 year old almost 200M a year:

Ronaldo is finished but 200 Million a year to kick a ball wtf, hes played these Bedouins

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

When Genghis Khan took over the city of Samarkhand (one of the most wealthiest cities in the Islamic world and Imam Bukhari's hometown) he said that it was because of their extreme decadence, that Allah had sent him as a form of punishment. Which if you deep it, it absolutely right. It was similar decadence and infighting that Arabs also lost Spain and Portugal.

No football club in Europe wants to touch Ronaldo with a stick. Not even the lower tier league teams....Yet, these naago Arabs are throwing 1.2billion at him.

Ibn Khaldun was absolutely bang on with this analysis of the Arab nature. Go read up what he had to say about them 700 years ago. Spot on.

Ibn Khaldun is one of my favorites

 

[Nikka]

Sounds like 100% description of Somalis, maybe Somalis really are ArabsView attachment 246575


Ronaldo is finished but 200 Million a year to kick a ball wtf, hes played these Bedouins

My thoughts exactly

 

[Shimbiris]

When Genghis Khan took over the city of Samarkhand (one of the most wealthiest cities in the Islamic world and Imam Bukhari's hometown) he said that it was because of their extreme decadence, that Allah had sent him as a form of punishment. Which if you deep it, it absolutely right. It was similar decadence and infighting that Arabs also lost Spain and Portugal.

No football club in Europe wants to touch Ronaldo with a stick. Not even the lower tier league teams....Yet, these naago Arabs are throwing 1.2billion at him.

Ibn Khaldun was absolutely bang on with this analysis of the Arab nature. Go read up what he had to say about them 700 years ago. Spot on.

The Mongols were just another in a long line of conquering nomads and just, in Baghdad's case, the most brutal. Also, wasn't the Abbasid dynasty pretty much weakened and close to nothing when they came? Generations of Turkic conquerors had already effed up the Middle-East by then. It was rather ripe for the sacking, honestly. I doubt what happened would have happened or happened as easily if the Mongols showed up when the Abbasids were at their truth zenith.

 

[wheel]

Sounds like 100% description of Somalis, maybe Somalis really are ArabsView attachment 246575

He's describing pastoral nomads sxb which includes somalis. A lot of sedentary somalis idealise this kind of lifetyle and the tribal structure whilst the civilized historically looked at them as no different from the above quote.

 

[DubatDiaries]

Sounds like 100% description of Somalis, maybe Somalis really are ArabsView attachment 246575


Ronaldo is finished but 200 Million a year to kick a ball wtf, hes played these Bedouins

Horta how did he read them (us) like that. I need to read Ibn Khalduns work man.

 

[DubatDiaries]

He's describing pastoral nomads sxb which includes somalis. A lot of sedentary somalis idealise this kind of lifetyle and the tribal structure whilst the civilized historically looked at them as no different from the above quote.

Pastoralism is absolutely okay if we stayed as pastoralists and away from the complexity of civilization. We tend to bring chaos into civilized places.

 

[DubatDiaries]

Their extravagance. They're actually gonna give this near 40 year old almost 200M a year:

they got too much money on their hands. I'm always confused by Khaleeji choices man. Don't get me started on the "line- city"atrocity. How about make your current cities livable and walkable.

 

[ZBR]

The Mongols were just another in a long line of conquering nomads and just, in Baghdad's case, the most brutal. Also, wasn't the Abbasid dynasty pretty much weakened and close to nothing when they came? Generations of Turkic conquerors had already effed up the Middle-East by then. It was rather ripe for the sacking, honestly. I doubt what happened would have happened or happened as easily if the Mongols showed up when the Abbasids were at their truth zenith.

Abbasids was never really a military powerhouse, and it was corrupt not because of a executive monarchal or central government overspending but rather by siphoning by Persian beauricates individually and collective corruption that’s was such a deep rot they

They didn’t even expand at all from the borders of they inherited from the Ummyads

 

[Recovering]

mongols are an interesting group, they can be peaceful for peaces sake and downright horrific and barbaric when need be

 

[Juliet]

Pastoralism is absolutely okay if we stayed as pastoralists and away from the complexity of civilization. We tend to bring chaos into civilized places.

no

 

[OffTheDome]

Respect the GOAT and our Arab brothers. It’s better than the UberEats league Pessi plays in.

 

[Lebron James]

It would attract tourists to come watch ronaldo play, that guys name is huge its a win win situation

 

[Laagite]

Their extravagance. They're actually gonna give this near 40 year old almost 200M a year:

It's their wealth and they can do whatever the fk they want with it.


I do agree that Ronaldo is too old for what they paying him, Neymar is a better choice.

 

[Angelina]

no

Sis, she’s got a point. If we ever want to progress we need to let go of our nomadic mentality. It’s why we’re lazy. See little value in production, despise the midgans as we’ve placed little value in their craft and believe we can take at will. Arrogance has led us to have an aversion to working with our hands to such an extent that grown able-bodied men would rather seek remittance from others than work in building site or factory. Everyman believes he’s the leader and Ibn Khaldun noted with the Bedouin Arabs who have the same Nomadic infliction ‘Scarcely a one of them would cede his power to another’, which is precisely one of the reasons why we have issues and no current civilization to speak of. To simply put it, we hardly produce anything, don’t respect or listen to our leaders and therefore engage in petty fights amongst ourselves to lead, devalue those that actually produce and have actual crafts, have a history of plundering our neighbors (qabil wars) and the list goes on.

We are precisely the people Ibn Khaldun described and that is due to our Nomadic/Bedouin roots which produces a type of anarchy that is the antithesis of civilization.

 

[reer]

Ibn Khaldun’s assessment of the Arab nomads is eerily similar to that of the Somalis. It isn’t a surprise as our pastoral nomadic lifestyle is exactly the same and I reckon that lifestyle creates the same type of mentality. The bit that stood out to me was how he notes that the Bedouin Arabs do not respect craftsmanship and production and I was instantly reminded of the Midgans. We see little value in them, despite production being a backbone of civilization.

actually saudis have madhibaans similar to somalis.

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[Nilotic]

Pastoralism is backwards so Nilotes, Fulani, Cushites and Baggara Arabs will have to abandon it if they ever hope to advance

 

[ZBR]

Pastoralism is backwards so Nilotes, Fulani, Cushites and Baggara Arabs will have to abandon it if they ever hope to advance

Pastoralism is the most developed and liberating lifestyle, but nomads are definitely brutish people

City dwellers with no livestock are akin to hunter and gathers