It is all about class struggle

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First time tucker is correct.

Just think about trans people they make up about ~1% of the US Population but they have a massively over representation in the media coverage.

The Ultra wealthy have more of a burden on the average persons life yet we are fighting over red-pill or feminism.

For a nation which focuses on racial justice how has the racial tensions increase.

I a Brit has more in-common with the average worker in Taiwan than i do with the Ultra Wealthy in my own nation.

Class consciousness is the way.
 

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The rich would rather nuke a town in Ohio Palestine than lose profit.

These โ€œpeopleโ€ don't view you as human.
 
Americans in the past had a revolution due to a tax of one penny being levied on them. Theyโ€™d be ashamed at how backwards America has went. If the people truly knew how oppressed they were, a revolution would commence the same day. But alas, they have been dumbed down and weakened and would rather focus on the skin colour of others. Racism is as real as you make it out to be.
 

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Indeed, Satan is an enemy to you; so take him as an enemy. He only invites his party to be among the companions of the Blaze.

-Surah Surat Fฤลฃir 35:6

The enemy of humans is Satan. The plan of Satan isn't class struggle. The plan of Satan is to lead human beings to hell. This is why for example you all this insistence on the promotion of homoism, trannies, zina, "adult films," etc..... whatever is sinful. They want you to commit sins, to go away from Allah and to go to hell. It isn't all about materialism.

think about it.... if it was all about class struggle, why would they try to force homoism and feminism on random third world countries? why would they care if some person in a village in a third world country is socially conservative or not and be concerned with trying to push liberal degeneracy on them?

why push all kinds of "woke" stuff that is unpopular with consumers?

from a purely capitalist perspective, why would you care if some society in a third world country is religious conservative? if the society is religious conservative, likely the population will not engage in Marxist/socialist type class conflict, the people will more likely be focused on religion and the religious leaders will teach the people that the order of things is ordained by God.

from a purely capitalist perspective, why would you threaten to sanction Nigeria if they don't allow gay stuff in their country?

how come no one cares if you walk around openly carrying a Karl Marx book, a Noam Chomsky book or wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt?

it all doesn't make sense from a purely capitalist perspective.... but if you look at the elites as operating from a spiritual, satanic standpoint- then it all makes perfect sense.
 

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another thing is that if it was really about class conflict, the Western media would not have hated Bolsonaro.... look up any mainstream Western media coverage of Bolsonaro and Lula.... they hated Bolsonaro and they made Lula out to be a hero... Lula was the pro-Communist candidate.... it would make no sense if it was really about class struggle
 
Indeed, Satan is an enemy to you; so take him as an enemy. He only invites his party to be among the companions of the Blaze.

-Surah Surat Fฤลฃir 35:6

The enemy of humans is Satan. The plan of Satan isn't class struggle. The plan of Satan is to lead human beings to hell. This is why for example you all this insistence on the promotion of homoism, trannies, zina, "adult films," etc..... whatever is sinful. They want you to commit sins, to go away from Allah and to go to hell. It isn't all about materialism.

think about it.... if it was all about class struggle, why would they try to force homoism and feminism on random third world countries? why would they care if some person in a village in a third world country is socially conservative or not and be concerned with trying to push liberal degeneracy on them?

why push all kinds of "woke" stuff that is unpopular with consumers?

from a purely capitalist perspective, why would you care if some society in a third world country is religious conservative? if the society is religious conservative, likely the population will not engage in Marxist/socialist type class conflict, the people will more likely be focused on religion and the religious leaders will teach the people that the order of things is ordained by God.

from a purely capitalist perspective, why would you threaten to sanction Nigeria if they don't allow gay stuff in their country?

how come no one cares if you walk around openly carrying a Karl Marx book, a Noam Chomsky book or wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt?

it all doesn't make sense from a purely capitalist perspective.... but if you look at the elites as operating from a spiritual, satanic standpoint- then it all makes perfect sense.
Good point. Class struggle isnโ€™t the end goal but merely a medium if we look at it from a metaphysical perspective.
 

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talk about selective editing....

what I wrote was "from a purely capitalist perspective, why would you care if some society in a third world country is religious conservative?"... why would you edit my quote like that? and then obviously there was a context
 

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Americans in the past had a revolution due to a tax of one penny being levied on them. Theyโ€™d be ashamed at how backwards America has went. If the people truly knew how oppressed they were, a revolution would commence the same day. But alas, they have been dumbed down and weakened and would rather focus on the skin colour of others. Racism is as real as you make it out to be.
I thought it was "No Taxation without Representation" in Parliament.
 

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Indeed, Satan is an enemy to you; so take him as an enemy. He only invites his party to be among the companions of the Blaze.

-Surah Surat Fฤลฃir 35:6

The enemy of humans is Satan. The plan of Satan isn't class struggle. The plan of Satan is to lead human beings to hell. This is why for example you all this insistence on the promotion of homoism, trannies, zina, "adult films," etc..... whatever is sinful. They want you to commit sins, to go away from Allah and to go to hell. It isn't all about materialism.

think about it.... if it was all about class struggle, why would they try to force homoism and feminism on random third world countries? why would they care if some person in a village in a third world country is socially conservative or not and be concerned with trying to push liberal degeneracy on them?

why push all kinds of "woke" stuff that is unpopular with consumers?

from a purely capitalist perspective, why would you care if some society in a third world country is religious conservative? if the society is religious conservative, likely the population will not engage in Marxist/socialist type class conflict, the people will more likely be focused on religion and the religious leaders will teach the people that the order of things is ordained by God.

from a purely capitalist perspective, why would you threaten to sanction Nigeria if they don't allow gay stuff in their country?

how come no one cares if you walk around openly carrying a Karl Marx book, a Noam Chomsky book or wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt?

it all doesn't make sense from a purely capitalist perspective.... but if you look at the elites as operating from a spiritual, satanic standpoint- then it all makes perfect sense.
another thing is that if it was really about class conflict, the Western media would not have hated Bolsonaro.... look up any mainstream Western media coverage of Bolsonaro and Lula.... they hated Bolsonaro and they made Lula out to be a hero... Lula was the pro-Communist candidate.... it would make no sense if it was really about class struggle
Brother you are right humanity biggest enemy is shaytaan but there are other problems in this world too.

For example imagine someone says โ€œwe should make it our goal to pollute less and make a positive impact on our environmentโ€.

Then you come out of the woodworks and say if the environment is a big issue it would be one of the 5 pillars of the deen its not important the world is temporary anyways.

Can you see how that wouldn't make sense?

Class is a real thing. Im not a socialist or a communist but i can also recognise that the upper class want to keep us as drones working every living moment for them.
 

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@Aurelian the way you edited my quote changes the whole meaning of what I was saying... it's ok to have a different viewpoint but it's not ok to use that kind of deceptive tactic
 
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First time tucker is correct.

Just think about trans people they make up about ~1% of the US Population but they have a massively over representation in the media coverage.

The Ultra wealthy have more of a burden on the average persons life yet we are fighting over red-pill or feminism.

For a nation which focuses on racial justice how has the racial tensions increase.

I a Brit has more in-common with the average worker in Taiwan than i do with the Ultra Wealthy in my own nation.

Class consciousness is the way.
You're falling for the culture wars.
 

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Brother you are right humanity biggest enemy is shaytaan but there are other problems in this world too.

For example imagine someone says โ€œwe should make it our goal to pollute less and make a positive impact on our environmentโ€.

Then you come out of the woodworks and say if the environment was the biggest issue it would be one of the 5 pillars of the deen its not important the world is temporary anyways.

Can you see how that wouldn't make sense?

Class is a real thing. Im not a socialist or a communist but i can also recognise that the upper class want to keep us as drones working every living moment for them.

I think all the evil ultimately goes back to satan and his agenda... it may seem separate but on some level I think it all ultimately goes back to satan and his agenda...

we have to stay within an Islamic framework and if environmental concerns are a valid thing they can be brought within an Islamic framework... it's very dangerous if we allow for going outside of an Islamic framework... Islam is suited to dealing with our problems of today just like the problems of the past

if someone says "if the environment was the biggest issue it would be one of the 5 pillars of the deen its not important the world is temporary anyways"... if someone reasons in this way is it because Islam is unequipped for modern issues or because they are not thinking about Islam in the correct way? it may be that their understanding is mistaken.

Islam is complete and perfect. Everything can and should be looked from an Islamic framework.

To me it's like... if you have an umbrella. It's actually raining where I am. You have an umbrella and it protects you against the rain. And you really want that protection. So stay under that umbrella. Don't leave being under that umbrella. The safety is being under that umbrella. And to me the umbrella metaphorically is Islam and staying within an Islamic framework. If everything with me has backing from Quran and Sunnah then I'm safe. But if I'm just relying on my own reasoning independent of Islam- this is danger.

I don't know much about environmentalism. I think a lot of what gets promoted under its banner is fake. "eat the bugs, don't have kids"... a lot of it is propaganda. Greta Thunberg for example is a tool of the elites.


but some of it I'm sure is valid. for example, I'm very concerned about plastic and how plastic is killing sea turtles. I used to have a pet turtle and I care very much about turtles. but having compassion for animals is nothing foreign to Islam.
 

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I think all the evil ultimately goes back to satan and his agenda... it may seem separate but on some level I think it all ultimately goes back to satan and his agenda...

we have to stay within an Islamic framework and if environmental concerns are a valid thing they can be brought within an Islamic framework... it's very dangerous if we allow for going outside of an Islamic framework... Islam is suited to dealing with our problems of today just like the problems of the past

if someone says "if the environment was the biggest issue it would be one of the 5 pillars of the deen its not important the world is temporary anyways"... if someone reasons in this way is it because Islam is unequipped for modern issues or because they are not thinking about Islam in the correct way? it may be that their understanding is mistaken.

Islam is complete and perfect. Everything can and should be looked from an Islamic framework.

To me it's like... if you have an umbrella. It's actually raining where I am. You have an umbrella and it protects you against the rain. And you really want that protection. So stay under that umbrella. Don't leave being under that umbrella. The safety is being under that umbrella. And to me the umbrella metaphorically is Islam and staying within an Islamic framework. If everything with me has backing from Quran and Sunnah then I'm safe. But if I'm just relying on my own reasoning independent of Islam- this is danger.

I don't know much about environmentalism. I think a lot of what gets promoted under its banner is fake. "eat the bugs, don't have kids"... a lot of it is propaganda. Greta Thunberg for example is a tool of the elites.


but some of it I'm sure is valid. for example, I'm very concerned about plastic and how plastic is killing sea turtles. I used to have a pet turtle and I care very much about turtles. but having compassion for animals is nothing foreign to Islam.
I understand but somethings are not within islam because we have modern day issues that was not present 1400 years ago.

For example the issue of Deepfake AI is it moral or not? Is a issue that i would find very hard to find classical islamic scholars who talk about this topic.

So what do i do. I start with a solid islamic framework then build off it with reasoning. Im not leaving the islamic framework but i am building off it.
 

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I understand but somethings are not within islam because we have modern day issues that was not present 1400 years ago.

For example the issue of Deepfake AI is it moral or not? Is a issue that i would find very hard to find classical islamic scholars who talk about this topic.

So what do i do. I start with a solid islamic framework then build off it with reasoning. Im not leaving the islamic framework but i am building off it.

but that's one of the things that's beautiful about Islam- we're able to reach conclusions about things that are present today that weren't present in the past. I mean for example.... just to use something that's very easy and obvious.... "adult films"... ok, they weren't around in the past but.... it's pretty obvious what the ruling is, right?

now, really.... we have to make ourselves close to the scholars... I mean we have to pay attention to the scholars and listen to what the scholars are saying.... because the scholars have knowledge of Quran and Sunnah.... and not all of us will have that same level as them.... but they will have the in-depth knowledge of Quran and Sunnah- and then yes, they can apply it to new modern-day issues.... and if for example all that somebody knows is Surah Al-Fatiha and they don't know any hadith and they haven't studied the works of the scholars.... well then obviously this person will have to just seek out a fatwa... but as you study the Quran and the sunnah and the more that you deepen your understanding of Islam... really I should should say "we" because it applies to me to.... but in any, case as a person gets more and more understanding.... then they more and more are able to apply their understanding.... and so some new modern issue might arise and (metaphorically speaking) a lightbulb can go off in their head and they can realize- what they learned can be applied to this new issue....

for example....


They call upon instead of Him none but female [deities], and they [actually] call upon none but a rebellious Satan.
Whom Allah has cursed. For he had said, "I will surely take from among Your servants a specific portion.
And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them [sinful] desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah ." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss.


-Surah An-Nisa 4:117-119

ok- so we know from this that satan will command to change the creation of Allah. and we know that this is something bad and that it's something that comes from satan and that we should stay away from it.

so what if you see for example a person doing weird body modification to look like a snake? or a person doing transgender surgery? even if you've never come across a fatwa or a scholar explaining those specific new things (expect the first one might be ancient, who knows, they might have some old means for that kind of thing).... you remember what the Quran said and you are able to apply what you've learned and you know that it's something wrong.

the verses of the Quran, the hadith.... they contain principles... and so the more you understand the Quran and the hadith... and the works of the scholars too... the more that you can understand the underlying principles and then apply them to new situations.
 

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Because what you wrote there or asked, has nothing to do with what I posted, or did it?

I guess if you take the small portion that you edited from out of my sentence and you remove it from the larger context, I guess... but if you read what I wrote and consider it as a whole, yes it directly responds
 

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