Is the literacy rate in Somalia accurate?

[Sedderr1234]

How true is only 40% adults know how to read and write in somalia? I find this hard to believe because most fobs that I I’ve come across irl and online can read and write Somali and sometimes Arabic. Maybe the very rural areas where education is not common but still 40%???? Only 4/10 adults can read in somalia? waan yaabay

 

[killerxsmoke]

How true is only 40% adults know how to read and write in somalia? I find this hard to believe because most fobs that I I’ve come across irl and online can read and write Somali and sometimes Arabic. Maybe the very rural areas where education is not common but still 40%???? Only 4/10 adults can read in somalia? waan yaabay

If I our script was arabic then it would be higher, but it's in Latin in which we have to go to school for that in which many dont

 

[Burqad]

If I our script was arabic then it would be higher, but it's in Latin in which we have to go to school for that in which many dont

Kacaanist grindset. Switch script to one that no one understands then you can claim that you increased literacy by 90 percent. #hustle

 

[Periplus]

The literacy rate in Somalia has always been bogus.

Firstly, the vast majority of the country are young people. In recent decades, basic education has become so accessible that nearly everyone has finished primary school at the minimum and most have finished high school.

Also, nearly every Somali can read the quran, so they are literate in the Arabic script.

So 40% is false imo

 

[Ahmedahmed5000]

Kacaanist grindset. Switch script to one that no one understands then you can claim that you increased literacy by 90 percent. #hustle

In Latin you learn less than 30 letters, but in arabic you learn the letters, and then the writing which is more complex than latin

 

[Periplus]

In Latin you learn less than 30 letters, but in arabic you learn the letters, and then the writing which is more complex than latin

Yes but Somalis already understand that.

There’s a reason why many non-Arab societies had Arabic scripts from Turkey to Malaysia.

 

[Ahmedahmed5000]

Yes but Somalis already understand that.

There’s a reason why many non-Arab societies had Arabic scripts from Turkey to Malaysia.

Yes but somali is very different to arabic, arabic is a more consonantal langauge thats based on the triconsonantal roots, for example كتب/write كاتب/writer مكتب/office. While on the other hand somali is rich with vowels like Turkish, beer/liver and beer/ farm are spelt the same even though they're pronounced differently due to somali not adopting diacritics, turkish uses diacritics for back vowels, and have a phonetic orthography. The Somali that was written in arabic wasn't standardised so each dialect used their own ways also, so south and north pronounce some words differently like gabar/gabadh.

 

[Periplus]

Yes but somali is very different to arabic, arabic is a more consonantal langauge thats based on the triconsonantal roots, for example كتب/write كاتب/writer مكتب/office. While on the other hand somali is rich with vowels like Turkish, beer/liver and beer/ farm are spelt the same even though they're pronounced differently due to somali not adopting diacritics, turkish uses diacritics for back vowels, and have a phonetic orthography. The Somali that was written in arabic wasn't standardised so each dialect used their own ways also, so south and north pronounce some words differently like gabar/gabadh.

You make a good point that the languages are not the same but in my opinion it is a better for the Somali language.

What would be required is a standardisation of the language in terms of spelling and pronounciation.

The issue mention of beer and beer is similar to Arabic. Due to the letter vowels (َُ َِ ) not being shown on Modern Arabic writing, there are situations where words are spelt similarly but pronounced differently. It is required for the speaker to understand the context and figure out which word is being used.

There are also Arabic words which are completely identical homonyms, both spelt the same and pronounced the same also.

Example: Dahab is both “gold” and “he went”. Maghrib is both “Morocco” and “Sunset”

 

[Ahmedahmed5000]

You make a good point that the languages are not the same but in my opinion it is a better for the Somali language.

What would be required is a standardisation of the language in terms of spelling and pronounciation.

The issue mention of beer and beer is similar to Arabic. Due to the letter vowels (َُ َِ ) not being shown on Modern Arabic writing, there are situations where words are spelt similarly but pronounced differently. It is required for the speaker to understand the context and figure out which word is being used.

There are also Arabic words which are completely identical homonyms, both spelt the same and pronounced the same also.

Example: Dahab is both “gold” and “he went”. Maghrib is both “Morocco” and “Sunset”

I think we need to modify our current script with back vowels, like tuug/ thief and tüüg/beg instead of spelling both as tuug.

 

[hanif#]

There are also Arabic words which are completely identical homonyms, both spelt the same and pronounced the same also.

Example: Dahab is both “gold” and “he went”. Maghrib is both “Morocco” and “Sunset”

There are maybe Arabic words that are pronounced and spelt the same but those two are not included

Gold = ذَهَبْ = Dhahab
He went = دَهَبَ = Dahaba

Morroco was named Maghreb because it's in the direction that the sun sets to

 

[galhareeri]

How true is only 40% adults know how to read and write in somalia? I find this hard to believe because most fobs that I I’ve come across irl and online can read and write Somali and sometimes Arabic. Maybe the very rural areas where education is not common but still 40%???? Only 4/10 adults can read in somalia? waan yaabay

Dude rural people learn quran imo kkk using loox highly educated on religion hence can write

 

[Periplus]

There are maybe Arabic words that are pronounced and spelt the same but those two are not included

Gold = ذَهَبْ = Dhahab
He went = دَهَبَ = Dahaba

Morroco was named Maghreb because it's in the direction that the sun sets to

Actually both are spelt ذهب walaal.

You’re right about pronounciation, but the spelling is the same.

 

[Ahmedahmed5000]

Actually both are spelt ذهب walaal.

You’re right about pronounciation, but the spelling is the same.

But the flaw is, arabic hardly represents shorts vowels, Malaysia and Turkey should be our direction.

 

[hanif#]

Actually both are spelt ذهب walaal.

You’re right about pronounciation, but the spelling is the same.

No, they are not spelt the same. You are forgetting Harakat are in the position of vowels for Arabic with Fatha being "a" kisra "i" and so on

ذَهَبْ the last "b" on this one has fatha so it's spelt like this Dhahaba

ذَهَبْ the last "b" on Gold has Sukun so its spelt like this Dhahab

 

[hanif#]

But the flaw is, arabic hardly represents shorts vowels, Malaysia and Turkey should be our direction.

You are against the Arabic script because you just hate ISLAM and everything that is associated with it

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

The literacy rate in Somalia is one of the lowest in the world. It is quite evident when you go there and see pretty much every store has pictures/drawings of items they sell on their exterior walls. 40% is also very believable considering Somalia would never accommodate minorities.

 

[Ahmedahmed5000]

You are against the Arabic script because you just hate ISLAM and everything that is associated with it

Nah I'm just a realist, there are some burdens we shouldn't carry as a 3rd world country, the main goal should be to simplfy, due to us being poor.

 

[GemState]

Arabic script should have been used. Fucking disgrace that Somali is used in Latin, it genuinely looks retarded.

 

[hinters]

Arabic script should have been used. Fucking disgrace that Somali is used in Latin, it genuinely looks retarded.

It only looks retarded because of the double vowels, an easy fix

 

[Periplus]

No, they are not spelt the same. You are forgetting Harakat are in the position of vowels for Arabic with Fatha being "a" kisra "i" and so on

ذَهَبْ the last "b" on this one has fatha so it's spelt like this Dhahaba

ذَهَبْ the last "b" on Gold has Sukun so its spelt like this Dhahab

Yes, my point is that when it is written, the letter vowels are not used. So it will look the same, hence why I said you were right on pronounciation but spelling is the same.

When both of those words are written in a book or on television, they don’t make the distinction.