Is Civil War Coming?

[Omar del Sur]

I wrote this I think on the 12th. I wrote this in case civil war breaks out in the US.



Is Civil War coming?

Will we see a massive civil war between left-wing and right-wing paramilitaries?

Seattle has already had a rapper declare himself warlord over a certain area.

I want to define my position before it starts- if it does start. I think undoubtedly basically- crazy civil war-like stuff will happen in some areas.

My position is I want an exact balance of power between the two sides. I want both sides at 50%. If things get where the power arrangement is 60% in favor of the left, I want to undermine the left and quietly support the right. If the power arrangement is 60% in favor of the right, I want to quietly support the left.

This is my doctrine which I advocate- the two should be played against each other. If the left is at 50%, you'll be in a much strong position in negotiating with it. If the left is at 90%, you'll be in a much weaker position. The aim should be for both sides to be kept at 50%. However, I do think it would be useful to send blm/antifa Communists to areas which are to be destroyed.

Ideally both alt-right and antifa would be under the heel of a third faction. If civil war happens, I hope they both destroy each other. I would rather see the white nationalists be crushed- then the cultural Marxist types could be dealt with. Cultural Marxists of color need white liberals to back them. Without white people, they'll very likely be cut off and crushed. They're basically a proxy force for white liberals.

If Civil War comes, if you get the chance- go after the white nationalists first then the antifa types. Ideally, they both lose. But if it's actual civil war, I want the white nationalists to be wiped out first. But once the spine of white nationalism is broken, I think the Antifa types should be next.

 

[المهندس]

I believe it will happen soon theres just too much tension and a bad economy.

Something will spark it soon

 

[Omar del Sur]

I believe it will happen soon theres just too much tension and a bad economy.

Something will spark it soon

In terms of values, in some ways I'm closer to the right- on a lot of issues I'm closer to them. But the right is pursuing a strategy which I think is really stupid.

If it was up to me, the right would be more interested in a socially conservative society, with traditional-type values and would not be on this white nationalism thing.

If the right was smart and made it about traditional values instead of a white nationalist platform and they weren't hostile to minorities, I think I could go along with it. I definitely am not for Marxism.

But I think the masses of right-wings are going about it like idiots and going along with this white nationalist platform.

When it comes time for them to actually meet the left in battle, I think they're going to very likely have an alt-right platform which is explicitly opposed to non-whites simply for being non-whites.

I think this is morally and strategically an extremely stupid approach. Large numbers of the white population are not willing to turn into neo-Nazis. Furthermore, the alt-right platform doesn't appeal to women. The white women won't be on board with it. Because the white women will side against the alt-right, tons of white men will follow them. The white nationalists would have to fight against a huge percentage of the white population, against basically all the minorities, against Jews, against foreign support from countries like China and others with anti-US agendas.

I think the right is going to fight under a white nationalist platform, I think they're going to alienate tons of people, I think they're going to get massacred and then I think the US will be under some extreme-left dictatorship but also end up in a situation where it isn't dominating the world anymore.

If the right really does fight for white nationalism, I hope the white nationalists are crushed and that they are crushed brutally to make an example out of them. But once they're out of the way and the leftists are in power, I think it will be necessary to resist the leftist dictatorship.

 

[Jaydaan]

I hope it does. We need America to fall

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

So you want a politically centered ruled America?

 

[المهندس]

In terms of values, in some ways I'm closer to the right- on a lot of issues I'm closer to them. But the right is pursuing a strategy which I think is really stupid.

If it was up to me, the right would be more interested in a socially conservative society, with traditional-type values and would not be on this white nationalism thing.

If the right was smart and made it about traditional values instead of a white nationalist platform and they weren't hostile to minorities, I think I could go along with it. I definitely am not for Marxism.

But I think the masses of right-wings are going about it like idiots and going along with this white nationalist platform.

When it comes time for them to actually meet the left in battle, I think they're going to very likely have an alt-right platform which is explicitly opposed to non-whites simply for being non-whites.

I think this is morally and strategically an extremely stupid approach. Large numbers of the white population are not willing to turn into neo-Nazis. Furthermore, the alt-right platform doesn't appeal to women. The white women won't be on board with it. Because the white women will side against the alt-right, tons of white men will follow them. The white nationalists would have to fight against a huge percentage of the white population, against basically all the minorities, against Jews, against foreign support from countries like China and others with anti-US agendas.

I think the right is going to fight under a white nationalist platform, I think they're going to alienate tons of people, I think they're going to get massacred and then I think the US will be under some extreme-left dictatorship but also end up in a situation where it isn't dominating the world anymore.

If the right really does fight for white nationalism, I hope the white nationalists are crushed and that they are crushed brutally to make an example out of them. But once they're out of the way and the leftists are in power, I think it will be necessary to resist the leftist dictatorship.

Don't some of these minorities hate each other themselves?

It could turn into a fatal four way blacks vs whites vs mexicans vs united minorities .

I doubt USA will recover if a civil war erupted

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

Don't some of these minorities hate each other themselves?

It could turn into a fatal four way blacks vs whites vs mexicans vs united minorities .

I doubt USA will recover if a civil war erupted

Blacks and Mexicans will definitely go to war with each other there’s still tension between the 2 here in California

 

[Marcus]

No, the US has contingencies for such things.

You aren't the hegemon without serious planning and control.

 

[Omar del Sur]

So you want a center wing ruled America?

I would consider myself a religious conservative. One slogan I like is "Dios, Patria, Familia"- God, Fatherland, Family. I know leftists paint me as a Hitlerist for political reasons but I actually dislike Hitler. I lean much more towards Francoism.

Franco won the Civil War in Spain and his platform was National Catholicism. They were patriots but ultimately they were fighting for religious values. It wasn't really a race thing.

Ideally, ideally the US would have sharia and I think a regime similar to General Zia's in 1980's Pakistan.

But in the US, I think full sharia is not feasible right now because Muslims are so few.

So my platform if it was up to me I think would be something like this

-ography is outlawed
-Homosexual Acts are outlawed
-Feminist Intellectuals are not allowed to propagate feminism and they are imprisoned if they do not comply
-God is recognized as Sovereign, the state affirms God's Lordship
-Atheists are cordially invited to hush and not propagate their views and are imprisoned if they do not comply
-Universities are cleansed of Marxists. Professors must denounce Marxism or lose their jobs.
-Muslims and Christians are free to their religions
-Abortion is outlawed
-Zina is discouraged as much as possible and made illegal if possible, if possible, we implement hudood
-Adultery is made illegal
-The education system from childhood to university aims at instilling a deep hatred of atheism and materialism
-It is illegal for women to wear super revealing clothing in public
-Every inch of territory that the US stole from Mexico is returned to Mexico

and that's pretty much it off the top of my head. I would definitely consider my platform to be right-wing and conservative but a way different form of right-wing than the alt-right. I would want something more similar to Francoist Spain than 1930's Germany.

Also, I forgot to add this to the platform:

Heroic Mothers Program-

Pious women of color who have more than five children are rewarded as part of a Heroic Mothers program. They are given some kind of special awards and prizes for service to the nation.

Pious white women who have more five children with men of color are also eligible for the Heroic Mothers program. White women who marry men of color may especially be recognized by the Heroic Mothers program.

Pious white women who have more than five children with white men.... if the couple is friendly to the state and its aims, those women can get recognition from the Heroic Mothers program and prizes- to be fair..... but they might somehow get a little less recognition than other Heroic Mothers.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Don't some of these minorities hate each other themselves?

It could turn into a fatal four way blacks vs whites vs mexicans vs united minorities .

I doubt USA will recover if a civil war erupted

Blacks and Mexicans will definitely go to war with each other there’s still tension between the 2 here in California

I'm in California too. If blacks and Mexicans go to war in California, Mexicans are going to rule Southern California. Blacks might manage to hold some pockets in California but Southern California will be dominated by Mexicans.

 

[repo]

I hope it does. We need America to fall

If America collapses, you all collapse.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Don't some of these minorities hate each other themselves?

It could turn into a fatal four way blacks vs whites vs mexicans vs united minorities .

I doubt USA will recover if a civil war erupted

I don't want the US to recover. If I have it my way, the Armed Forces of Mexico will be on the ground in places like California and Texas, all former Mexican territory is under Mexican control and the US can't do anything about it.

 

[Omar del Sur]

If America collapses, you all collapse.

I would be in favor of the US collapsing even if I died in the process. But I don't think that's going to happen to me.

I think an enemy of humanity is going to collapse and the world will be a better place. A multipolar world free from US imperialism. I assume people will die. Things happen. But I want the US to collapse. The US is not a friend to any of us and I think we'll all be better off with a collapsed US. Even if I died, I think it would be worth it. But I think I'll be just fine.

 

[repo]

I would be in favor of the US collapsing even if I died in the process. But I don't think that's going to happen to me.

I think an enemy of humanity is going to collapse and the world will be a better place. A multipolar world free from US imperialism. I assume people will die. Things happen. But I want the US to collapse. The US is not a friend to any of us and I think we'll all be better off with a collapsed US. Even if I died, I think it would be worth it. But I think I'll be just fine.

America is the shining pillar in this world, it's the center of humanity and its advancement so why would you want it to collapse? Do you like chaos more than stability? America is a greater friend to the world than China has ever been.

 

[Omar del Sur]

 

[Omar del Sur]

America is the shining pillar in this world, it's the center of humanity and its advancement so why would you want it to collapse? Do you like chaos more than stability? America is a greater friend to the world than China has ever been.

That's what you consider being the shining pillar and center of humanity?

And genociding the Indians? What did the Indians do to you that you're okay with them being genocided? Those white people you're defending don't even consider you a human.

 

[repo]

That's what you consider being the shining pillar and center of humanity?

And genociding the Indians? What did the Indians do to you that you're okay with them being genocided? Those white people you're defending don't even consider you a human.

America’s contribution to the advancement of humanity far outweighs its crimes. Those are actions by individuals and not all Americans supported that. If you want to live in a world without America I think it would be chaos and I prefer stability.

 

[Omar del Sur]

America’s contribution to the advancement of humanity far outweighs its crimes. Those are actions by individuals and not all Americans supported that. If you want to live in a world without America I think it would be chaos and I prefer stability.

The US is a force for evil. Yes, a world without the US would be chaos in the sense that it would be multipolar rather than a unipolar world dominated by the US. And that would be a good thing. If you want peace and stability at the cost of being a slave, I guess your approach makes sense.

 

[repo]

The US is a force for evil. Yes, a world without the US would be chaos in the sense that it would be multipolar rather than a unipolar world dominated by the US. And that would be a good thing. If you want peace and stability at the cost of being a slave, I guess your approach makes sense.

I don't mind being this guy.

 

[repo]

I'm in California too. If blacks and Mexicans go to war in California, Mexicans are going to rule Southern California. Blacks might manage to hold some pockets in California but Southern California will be dominated by Mexicans.

What the hell if you are in Cali why don't you leave since it's a force for evil?